Vent about dress codes at Disney...

[jackmac]

If you are in total agreement with a dress code at Disney why are you objecting to it being enforced? It has been specified that business casual for Disney purpose does include dress shorts and I believe that I was also corrected to say it includes jeans.
In terms of "People wanting to dress for dinner and have an elegant time should choose another type of vacation". I would never presume to tell anyone what type of vacation that they should take. I believe that one of the joys of Disney is that it does offer something for everyone. If you want elegance there is V&A, if you want upscale dining that is available, but each comes with restrictions. If you want dining without restrictions that is also available. No one is making judgements. The discussion is that since a dress code has been established should it be enforced? Other threads have suggested that it will be enforced over time. If this is the case then good for Disney to allow some time for adjustment.
I would also like it to be noted that I never suggested what someone should have or where they should eat. I'm only suggesting that if a restriction is agreed to when you accept the reservation then you should comply with that restriction.

 

[3princesses4us]

I know what agotta means. At Le Cellier, I saw a woman wearing white shoes after labor day and I had trouble finishing my cheese soup.
After reading DH this ridiculous thread, he said to let you know he'll be renting a tux for our next experience at Beaches & Cream.
Cantw8- I laughed so hard, I cried reading your response to him. You had me at "Holy crap, are you serious?"...

 

[brytorlyn]

If you are in total agreement with a dress code at Disney why are you objecting to it being enforced? It has been specified that business casual for Disney purpose does include dress shorts and I believe that I was also corrected to say it includes jeans.

I'm only suggesting that if a restriction is agreed to when you accept the reservation then you should comply with that restriction.

I am not sure why you are so hostile!

I am in total agreement with the dress code and never said I had any objection to it being enforced. I have no idea where you get the idea that I do. The OP said she was bothered by jeans at the restaurant and I am saying that is within the code and not a problem.

And furthermore I was not presuming to tell people where to vacation, you are misinterpreting the tone of the statement. I simply meant that if elegance is something you are seeking on your vacation a theme park will likely be disappointing and there are many nice places that cater to elegant and romantic outings and not so many that cater to weary park goers and their kids. I never intended it to sound like I was telling anyone where to go,
I simply meant they would probably find it easier to find restaurants that meet their needs that have stricter dress codes--more traditional restaurants---not Disneyfied places. The majority of people coming to a theme park for a holiday are looking for a casual experience.

I definitely agree that if you come to a place with a dress code you should abide by it but the OP was talking about clothes that are acceptable and still offended her.

 

[brytorlyn]

I know what agotta means. At Le Cellier, I saw a woman wearing white shoes after labor day and I had trouble finishing my cheese soup. ...

 

[Eeyore2003]

I know what agotta means. At Le Cellier, I saw a woman wearing white shoes after labor day and I had trouble finishing my cheese soup. ...

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Priceless!!!

I work at home and I guess I have a pair of blue capris, that and a nice top I'm wearing to the Princess Tea, I hope my "capris" are good enough and I don't ruin the $200.00 occasion for anyone, but otherwise I only have jeans. No I'm not a slob, and I'm not scum. My husband is a physician, and yes, we could afford more, but we really don't go "out" much except to family places and I don't "dress up" a whole lot. We're not the "Country Club" type, not that that's bad, it's just not us.

I'll let you know where I'm eating next week and when, so we dont upset anyone's meal. DH dresses up everyday and when he's on vacation a nice t-shirt is "dressing up" to him. I guess he's worn a polo to Artist Point when we go and I always wear nice tops, but I guess it's the "jean" thing that I don't understand.

As for the kids??? Amazingly somewhere between thinking "MY" children would be "perfect" and getting two "wonderful" boys to adulthood, was something called "normal childhood". My kids were most of the time well-behaved, but gee, there were times, more times than I'd like to think about. Let's just say, been there, done that, know how it feels and will not judge. When kids are whiny and tired, I just feel sorry for the poor parents just trying to get a nice meal and probably totally embarrassed, and I'm VERY glad I'm done with that age and they're not mine!!! So why should it bother me!!! Like I said, I know what it feels like!!! And normal children will be normal children.

 

[monty]

No, I said that. I don't think anyone should have to "dress" up at park restaurants. Dh and I are looking forward to a nice anniversary dinner at Yachtsman and I read another post were the OP was told jeans or shorts and a "nice" shirt were ok.

Anniversary dinner, hmmm.
"I only have eyes for you".
Perhaps, with a bit of luck, you won't notice what the other diners are wearing.

 

[budbeerlady]

Flame away! We will be at yatchsman, le Cellier, Etc. in our black jeans and nice shirts. I am in a skirt and heels all the time at work, my vacation is just that, my vacation! I will not be burping or cursing or otherwise unrefined, I enjoy a good meal and have manners. But dont expect to see me in a skirt or dress pants, I wear those every day! I dont see how dress is such a big deal, nor does it make or break anyones meal! If it is obsene or volgur then I would expect it not to be allowed at a WDW establishment, other wise who cares! If you feel comfortable in a skirt or dress pants then wear it, but dont demand the same of the rest of us.

 

[C.Ann]

I'm only suggesting that if a restriction is agreed to when you accept the reservation then you should comply with that restriction.

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By all means.. If there is in fact a dress code, it should be enforced and followed..

However, for people (not you in particular) to have their meal "ruined" by the attire of other patrons is way over the top - regardless of the dress code..

 

[HayGan]

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By all means.. If there is in fact a dress code, it should be enforced and followed..

However, for people (not you in particular) to have their meal "ruined" by the attire of other patrons is way over the top - regardless of the dress code..

I couldn't agree more!

Honestly, there are more important things to worry about than how others are dressed! I can't imagine how someone's attire could ruin my meal unless I was sitting across from them and they had unmentionable body parts hanging out or something. My steak isn't going to be ruined becuase the guy three tables down has a pair of jeans on

BTW, I've been to McDonald's plenty of times in a business suit

 

[agotta]

Well you are all quite welcome for the entertainment. Feel free to continue this amongst yourselves, but I am removing myself from the conversation. I have had enough of being the butt of everyone's jokes. I now completely understand that all of your opionions are valid and matter, but mine are not...

 

[tlbwriter]

Flame away, but I am tired of seeing people told it is OK to go to any of Disney's nice (not necessarily signature) restaurants in jeans or shorts and t'shirts. Maybe this is just me, but I look forward to at least once nice meal every trip and yes DH and I do dress up a bit. Seeing tourists in jeans or worse yet shorts ruins the ambiance of the restaurant for us. I can understand at the park restaurants, but not at resorts sit-downs.

I'm not going to flame, but I'm going to disagree. As others have pointed out, it is OK for people to wear jeans and shorts to the resort sit-down restaurants. Personally, I would hate to see a more strict dress code. I know it's fun sometimes to get dressed up and go somewhere where everyone else is dressed up to, but I don't think WDW is, or should be, that place.

 

[RaineinMD]

I'm not going to flame, but I'm going to disagree. As others have pointed out, it is OK for people to wear jeans and shorts to the resort sit-down restaurants. Personally, I would hate to see a more strict dress code. I know it's fun sometimes to get dressed up and go somewhere where everyone else is dressed up to, but I don't think WDW is, or should be, that place.

I too am not going to flame but I respectfully disagree. Whatever I wear to the park that day is going to be what i wear to dinner. I will not have a car and the thought of spending so much valuable time going back to our resort by bus, changing, applying make-up, waiting for everyone else to get dressed, wait for another bus to take us to the resort with the restaurant reservations, going back to our resort to change back into park clothes and then going to the park is just too much wasted time. I feel the waiters/waitresses and the table settings etc set the tone for the ambiance of the restaurant not what patrons are wearing...

 

[cigar95]

I too am not going to flame but I respectfully disagree. Whatever I wear to the park that day is going to be what i wear to dinner....

I don't think Agotta would have disagreed with you at all on this, but that it would be nice if there were a few places around WDW where it *is* a more "dressy" environment for those who want that sort of experience without dropping the $250 it takes for a couple to eat at Vickie & Al's.

As I said earlier, given that there are so many sit-down places around WDW, if there were enough guests who wanted that sort of experience, it would be easy enough to provide it. Apparently there aren't.

 

[dcgrumpy]

And why is that someone "like" me has to go somewhere else. If you want to dine in shorts and flip flops at "upscale" restaurants, that is your problem. If you can't follow the dress code, I am the one who has to leave That is a joke.

But they are following Disney's dress code as other people have already pointed out

 

[Lewisc]

Well you are all quite welcome for the entertainment. Feel free to continue this amongst yourselves, but I am removing myself from the conversation. I have had enough of being the butt of everyone's jokes. I now completely understand that all of your opionions are valid and matter, but mine are not...

Jeans and shorts comply with Disney's dress code for all restaurants excpet V&A. That is not a matter of opinion but fact.

You might have gotten a different response if you had suggested Disney consider having a stricter dress code for some of the signature restaurants but you didn't. You had a problem with guests who weren't following your dress code but who comply with Disney's dress code.

Bistro de France used to have a more formal dress code. Evidently there wasn't enough demand.

People traveling to WDW don't want to pack dressier clothes. People going to a signature restaurant at a resort they're not staying at don't want to go back to their resort to change and then go to the resort. It would be easier to justify a stricter dress code at CG if the customers were all guests were all staying at the Contemporary or at least another MK resort. It's not realistic to expect guests staying at a resort like POR will take a bus to their resort to change and then take the bus back to MK only to then have to take the monorail to the Contemporary.

 

[maggs]

I too am not going to flame but I respectfully disagree. Whatever I wear to the park that day is going to be what i wear to dinner. I will not have a car and the thought of spending so much valuable time going back to our resort by bus, changing, applying make-up, waiting for everyone else to get dressed, wait for another bus to take us to the resort with the restaurant reservations, going back to our resort to change back into park clothes and then going to the park is just too much wasted time. I feel the waiters/waitresses and the table settings etc set the tone for the ambiance of the restaurant not what patrons are wearing...

I couldnt agree more. I travel over 3000 miles to get to Disney. It is a casual and relaxed atmosphere.I am widowed with four kids. I have no car and I would not be happy with dragging my kids back to the hotel on the bus and then back to a restaurant to eat. What I wear during the day is what I wear to eat. It is more important that my kids are well behaved and have good manners than whether they are wearing a pair of shorts or pants!

Maggs

 

[jann1033]

Thank you for clarifying, but no I am not confused. Business casual is not shorts or jeans.

You can wear - dress shorts, pants, jean pants, collared shirts, blouses, sweaters, pants.

(from allears link)

if you want to wear a tux who really cares? no one is stopping you.

we never wear torn jeans ect to wdw in or out of the parks... i usually wear nice capris, husband some kind of nice shorts ( not torn) but i really don't see the issue here. how can i make someone wear clothes that are not required cause i want them to? then i am the one in the minority so i either wear what i want and accept them wearing what they want or go someplace where the dress code is more formal. like v&a or off property...

 

[TinkTatoo]

I couldnt agree more. I travel over 3000 miles to get to Disney. It is a casual and relaxed atmosphere.I am widowed with four kids. I have no car and I would not be happy with dragging my kids back to the hotel on the bus and then back to a restaurant to eat. What I wear during the day is what I wear to eat. It is more important that my kids are well behaved and have good manners than whether they are wearing a pair of shorts or pants!

Maggs

Well said - I travel all the way from Ireland to come to WDW and my first priority is for myself and my family to dress in comfort for walking round the theme parks and to cope with the heat (our visits are in August) I don't pay any attention to other diners - they can wear what they feel comfortable in and we will wear what we feel comfortable in. It is far too hot for us in August to wear trousers (pants) we only bring shorts with us. If you don't like what other diners wear don't eat in the resturant

 

[Peter Pirate]

This always underdressed patron truly enjoyed this thread!!!

BTW, someone mentioned thongs and I wonder, does Disney have a policy regarding underwear...Mandatory or not? Maybe don't ask don't tell?

 

[Aliki]

I think it's a shame that people think that jeans, t-shirt and sneakers constitute "business casual".

Honestly.

I didn't think it was such a big deal for my DH and I to leave MK early, go back to our off-site resort (7 miles from Disney), take a shower, change into something nice, and return. My DH wore a shirt, dress pants and even a tie. He looked so sharp and we had a great time at California Grill.

I don't fault anyone for wearing jeans/t-shirts to a nice restaurant, but sometimes it just astounds me that people think being slobs/loud/obnoxious/not-tipping is acceptable just because they are on vacation.