Vent about dress codes at Disney...

[disneynutt1225]

^^ EXACTLY!!! ITA with you iwaseeyore.

 

[cara loves the poly]

I think it is exactly what she is saying. She feels that her vision of the dress code is the correct one, not the one Disney imposes. She feels that those of who value comfort over glitz are not worthy of her presence. Fine, she can and you can go to a place that the clientele is dressed to a standard you feel is at your level. i'll go with most of the rest of the posters to the various upscale place at WDW and enjoy and not let what others wear affect me.

no, no, no, no, it's not "feeling at my level", It's just really nice (we don't get out more than four times a year childless), to have a "kind of fancy" feeling dinner. I don't think there is a place at Disney right now for that. And because we have children, tuition for school, you know, I can't see spending the price on V&A. Please don't think that I'm snobish.

 

[WDWBetsy]

I feel that Disney should enforce the "business casual" code by denying admission to restaurants for people in jeans. I was at Yachtsman and the flying fish this past weekend. People were in jeans, very inappropriate. I asked out waitress about this and she said that only people in tank tops are turned away. I does effect my dining pleasure to see people dressed for the parks in nice restaurants. I endevor to dress for the activity that I'm going to do. Clothes do make the man. I will state that during the summer months I feel that dress shorts should be acceptable at nicer restaurants. Tee shirts and jeans are never acceptable at the better resort restaurants. Parks can be more casual, if you come into the park in the morning and spend the day there ok, park fare is appropriate. If your going to signature restaurants, obey the dress code or have a burger somewhere else.

I have to disagree with you and refer you to the July 2005 allearsnet.com blurb (previously referenced in this thread) where they announced the "business casual" dress code. It specifically states that jean pants are acceptable, along with dress shorts.

Personally, I don't know why someone else's fashion choice would ruin a meal, but I'll let Disney police their own dress code and just have a good time without worrying about what someone else is wearing. I don't expect Disney to force people to exceed the "business casual" policy they have created just because someone else envisions it differently.

 

[skiwee1]

I totally agree. How someone else is dressed has never had an impact on my dining experience.

I agree. DH and I took his brother and SIL out for a 40th birthday last month. The meal cost over $450 before tip. We were dressed nicely but there was a huge mix. Some wore formalwear and others wore touristwear. We wore dress slacks, polos, and blouses. We never once felt like our evening was ruined because the guests next to us wore jeans. I say live and let live. The last think I want is to dress up while on vacation. We do it enough in every day life when we go out to dinner. It is so nice to dress casual and enjoy a nice meal. That is a vacation to me.

 

[skiwee1]

My family went to Cinderella's Gala Feast at the Grand Floridian last fall, and for the life of me I can't remember what anyone else wore. I do remember we left the park early so we could change clothes, and that there was some ironing involved. It felt to us like the right thing to do. But as far as how any other people were dressed--- I have no idea. Even if I had seen someone in a torn t-shirt and cut offs I would have probably rolled my eyes and chalked it up to being at Disney World. Most people do not pack formal clothes for a trip to Disney. So I guess what other people wear doesn't affect me at all.

That is a character meal. Wearing shorts and Ts are fine for this meal. Why anyone would feel underdressed at a buffet is beyond me. If it's all you can eat then you can rest assured that your new Mickey t-shirt will be just fine! LOL!

 

[iwaseeyore]

no, no, no, no, it's not "feeling at my level", It's just really nice (we don't get out more than four times a year childless), to have a "kind of fancy" feeling dinner. I don't think there is a place at Disney right now for that. And because we have children, tuition for school, you know, I can't see spending the price on V&A. Please don't think that I'm snobish.

Then my suggestion is to focus on you and dh and not anyone else. I remember those day and I'll focused was my DW. She is still all I focus on after 22 years. Some swimsuit model could run around the place naked and it wouldn't change my focus. You need to determine what is important. Your experience or the way others dress.

 

[agotta]

I think it is exactly what she is saying. She feels that her vision of the dress code is the correct one, not the one Disney imposes. She feels that those of who value comfort over glitz are not worthy of her presence. Fine, she can and you can go to a place that the clientele is dressed to a standard you feel is at your level. i'll go with most of the rest of the posters to the various upscale place at WDW and enjoy and not let what others wear affect me.

Wow. Well I apologize to all of you who understood my comments incorrectly. I am not saying that peopel who dress a certain way are beneath me. For gosh sakes that is so ridiculous. I am just saying the a dress code was established and should be respected. This got way out of control. I wasn't slamming anyone nor was I condesending. Thank you to all of you who understood my comments, whether you agreed with me or not. To those who felt the need to twist my words and belittle me, thank you too.

 

[MrsNick]

Then my suggestion is to focus on you and dh and not anyone else. I remember those day and I'll focused was my DW. She is still all I focus on after 22 years. Some swimsuit model could run around the place naked and it wouldn't change my focus. You need to determine what is important. Your experience or the way others dress.

ITA. When I am out at a nice dinner with DH, there is no one else in the room.

 

[dvcgirl]

I am going to Flying Fish on the day after Thanksgiving, and I will be in jeans. Just wanted to give a warning to those whose dining experience may be affected by that.

And in Florida, jeans and shorts are "business casual" at a lot of places. I work for a national company in the Tampa office, and in our office jeans and shorts meet the business casual definition.[/QUOTE

This is actually something we've noticed since moving down here. Business people seem to dress more casually. I kind of like that. And we frequent the resort restaurants on a regular basis. Generally my DH wears shorts, sneakers and a collared shirt. I'll wear capris or shorts, sandals and a dressy top. That's what we wear to restaurants all over Orlando and we've never felt out of place....

 

[iwaseeyore]

Wow. Well I apologize to all of you who understood my comments incorrectly. I am not saying that peopel who dress a certain way are beneath me. For gosh sakes that is so ridiculous. I am just saying the a dress code was established and should be respected. This got way out of control. I wasn't slamming anyone nor was I condesending. Thank you to all of you who understood my comments, whether you agreed with me or not. To those who felt the need to twist my words and belittle me, thank you too.

Maybe you need to go back and read your posts. It seems as though many differ with your opinion of what you said.

As far as the dress code at WDW maybe you don't understand it but jeans and shorts are acceptable and those were some of your complaints.

 

[cara loves the poly]

Then my suggestion is to focus on you and dh and not anyone else. I remember those day and I'll focused was my DW. She is still all I focus on after 22 years. Some swimsuit model could run around the place naked and it wouldn't change my focus. You need to determine what is important. Your experience or the way others dress.

sorry, just have to say that brought a tear to my eye, very sweet. congrats on 22 yrs! that is awesome, don't see enough of that these days!!!! don't be mad at me... i didnt start this... lol!!!! i just kind of see the point.

 

[jackmac]

I don't think that I'm exceding the Disney policy, just living up to it. Certain restaurants have a dress code and it's stated at the time you make a reservation. That fact that some people choose to disregard it won't make my experience less but it does change the atmosphere. If I'm going to ESPN then jeans and a tee shirt are fine. If I'm in the parks all day then what you see is what you get. If I'm in the resort then I'll make an effort to dress as specified in my reservation. If I'm in doubt I'll ask. No one is enforcing a more rigerous standard than that which is stated by Disney. The problem is that Disney is not enforcing it's own standard, which leaves no standard. If all manner of dress is acceptable, state that. If a certain level of dress is requested, state that and don't wavier. V&A states jacket and tie for men and they will not let you in without one. Yachtsman, etc. states Business Casual, but they do let people in without dressing to this standard. That's where the problem is.

Disney provides different experiences for different people. There are all types of restaurants with all types of standards. I choose to frequent restaurants that request business casual dress at night and I choose to honor that request. If others don't that's their issue. When business casual or jacket and tie is not specified at the time of the reservation then I won't worry about what I wear. If it is specified I will attempt to comply with the request, for the sake of myself, my spouse, my family and all others.

The way you dress does not make you a better of worse person, but it does set a standard. My children attended schools where a dress code was in effect. It did not make them smarter or better students, but it did set a standard. The same applies to all endevors. If I attend a business meeting I expect business dress. If I'm playing golf and a collared shirt is required I won't show up in a tee shirt. Likewise, if business casual is specified, I'll wear business casual (and yes business casual at Disney does include dress short). Just my opinion.

 

[iwaseeyore]

sorry, just have to say that brought a tear to my eye, very sweet. congrats on 22 yrs! that is awesome, don't see enough of that these days!!!! don't be mad at me... i didnt start this... lol!!!! i just kind of see the point.

But I didn't say i focused because I was throwing food at her!

I'm not mad. It just amazes me at what people think is important.

 

[sotoalf]

Then my suggestion is to focus on you and dh and not anyone else. I remember those day and I'll focused was my DW. She is still all I focus on after 22 years. Some swimsuit model could run around the place naked and it wouldn't change my focus. You need to determine what is important. Your experience or the way others dress.

But after staring at your wife for so long doesn't your food get cold?

 

[iwaseeyore]

But doesn't your food get cold after staring at your wife so long?

Let me get a grammar fairy!

 

[sotoalf]

Let me get a grammar fairy!

Ha! Corrected!

 

[WDWBetsy]

I don't think that I'm exceding the Disney policy, just living up to it. Certain restaurants have a dress code and it's stated at the time you make a reservation. That fact that some people choose to disregard it won't make my experience less but it does change the atmosphere. If I'm going to ESPN then jeans and a tee shirt are fine. If I'm in the parks all day then what you see is what you get. If I'm in the resort then I'll make an effort to dress as specified in my reservation. If I'm in doubt I'll ask. No one is enforcing a more rigerous standard than that which is stated by Disney. The problem is that Disney is not enforcing it's own standard, which leaves no standard. If all manner of dress is acceptable, state that. If a certain level of dress is requested, state that and don't wavier. V&A states jacket and tie for men and they will not let you in without one. Yachtsman, etc. states Business Casual, but they do let people in without dressing to this standard. That's where the problem is.

In one of your previous posts, you specifically called out people who wear jeans as being inappropriately dressed, when they are in fact in compliance with Disney's "business casual" dress code (July 2005).

I'm not saying that you think you're above someone else for wanting people to respect a dress code; I'm just clarifying what the actual business casual dress code is, according to WDW. The information I've found states that Yachtsman and the others listed allow jeans.

EDITED TO ADD: I just read a thread about Yachtsman's dress code, and Chip 'n Dale Express' response (post #19) pretty much says it all:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=947286&page=2

He also made a good point earlier in the thread - they allow some leeway (90 days) for people who might have made ADRs before the change and who might not know.

 

[Kris & Steve]

Holy crap, are you serious? You actually let what other people around you wear affect your dinning experience? Sorry, as long as I am not wearing my bikini top and thong and flopping my stuff around on your plate, how am I bothering you? When we go to dinner at the "nicer" resort restuarants, we are all usually wearing shorts and nice shirts. I might even be sporting a ponytail I am on vacation. Some of you may think that is an excuse to "let myself go" (as was stated in another thread), to me, it is how I am comfortable. I do not see how this makes me a "clueless oaf" Get real. Feel free to eat your steak and cheddar cheese soup at Le Cellier wearing your diamonds and tiarras...I couldn't care less. Time is precious to me on vacation, I am not going to shorten my day by going back to the room, showering, doing my hair/make-up and putting on my Versace little black dress and heals just so your dinning experience isn't ruined.

AMEN Sister! I couldn't have said it better myself! I can't belive people bug out over such minor things. I'll never understand

 

[CHIPSTER]

According to O'Henry - Clothes don't make the man!

 

[brytorlyn]

I am also shocked that anyone would be bothered by someone wearing jeans or tee shirts at a Disney restaurant. I focus on my dinner companions and spend very little time checking out the clothing choices of others.

I think AGOTTA probably does not have children...I come to Disney to have fun with my 3 kids. The idea that I am expected to drag them away from the fun to make the long trek back to my hotel to get everyone all snazzed up and then all the way back to another resort and lose 2 hours of fun time seems ridiculous!! We pick resort restaurants that are close to the park we are visiting that day to make it easier to get to dinner without wasting time. And often we go back to the park after dinner so I don't want to be in my heels and dressy clothes.

My husband and I travel alot with our kids and enjoy upscale dining (we don't like fast food much) and just because we choose not to dress up on a Disney vacation does not mean I want a burger every night of my holiday as JACKMAC feels I should!

To AGOTTA..

I think it is a misnomer for Disney to call their dress code business casual...even if you extend it to include jeans I have never seen it include shorts. This being said, I am in total agreement with dress code at Disney. People are here to have fun and relax, after all it is an AMUSEMENT PARK!!
People who want to dress up for dinner and have an elegant time should consider another type of vacation.