Velocicoaster Ruins the Ambience of the Outdoor Dining Area of the Three Broomsticks

[BroadwayHermione5]

According to my then 7 yr old at Busch Gardens Williamsburg when we were eating in France beneath the Griffon, "the sounds of terror add a spice to the food." I guess you could just imagine yourself as a DeathEater and enjoy it : ) It is no wonder that child grew up to be a Slytherin.

Random but I love Griffon so much such a great coaster!

 

[Pooh's World]

Random but I love Griffon so much such a great coaster!

Busch Gardens Williamsburg is awesome!

So well designed.

 

[cschaaf]

I highly doubt they consulted Warner and certainly not JK Rowling (who wouldn't have approved this).
This seems more something Jurrasic creative did on their own without looking at the whole picture until it was too late.

I certainly don't think they did 100s of studies on where to place Velocicoaster, and even if they did it may still be meaningless. One could argue that they did 100s of studies on Fast and the Furious only to still have the ride dead on arrival.

Part of it may also be that the guy who created Harry Potterland for Unviersal was hired by Disney to create the Avatar World and Star Warsland, so the person with the original vision and understanding of a self contained immersed land is no longer overseeing things at Universal.

If you look at Avatar World and Star Warsland, there is no outside interference that interferes with anything within the land. You can't see the Tower of Terror or the Giant Tree from anywhere within Avatarland or Star Warsland.

Sorry you don’t like the change. Truly am.

They won’t please everyone with anything they do.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it was a mistake. It doesn’t mean no one considered a different plan.

Those who loved the porch and miss how it was are likely to believe their point of view wasn’t considered. Those who loved the porch but think the overall trade off was worth it likely think their POV was considered and the designers came to that same conclusion. Finally, those who didn’t know the porch existed, whitish, by far, the vast majority of park visitors will never know the different.

We do not have, and never will have, the full picture of what they considered and who approved or didn’t.

I don’t like F&F either, but I think it probably does it’s job - it eats people.

 

[Pooh's World]

I don’t like F&F either, but I think it probably does it’s job - it eats people.

I honestly don't think it even eats people. Waits times are always as short as ET.

They would have been better off having a F&F stunt show if they wanted a people eater.

The Haloween Maze they had in that space was much more backed than Fast and the Furious has ever been.

 

[Jessem1133]

There were plenty of options but I think the likely answer is that this was conceived from a Juarrsasic Land point of view and they just didn't even think about it till it was too late.

So you’re saying they just started building a multi-million dollar ride…and didn’t know where it was going? Just kinda figured it out as they went along?

 

[Pooh's World]

So you’re saying they just started building a multi-million dollar ride…and didn’t know where it was going? Just kinda figured it out as they went along?

Not sure what would give you that idea.

The Jurrsasic team built it from their point of view. By the time they started building it and the Harry Potter people chimed in it was too late to alter the plans or it may not have been even noticed till the roller coaster structure was already built.


There's still actually a relatively easy fix, if you build a giant castle wall with a giant water fountain. That would get rid of the ugly sitelines and drown out the screaming and slobbering noise from the coaster so that the diners could eat in peace and enjoy the ambience of Hogsmeade.

 

[KrzyKtty101]

At the end of the day, while it is obviously an issue for you, I do not think it's a big enough issue for enough people to affect the park financially enough for them to invest any more money into solving your issue with the sight line. Simply put, most people don't seem to care. They already spent millions of dollars on the ride. I don't really see them investing any more money building something else in Hogsmeade just so that you can't see it anymore. What's been done has been done at this point.

 

[KrzyKtty101]

Not sure what would give you that idea.

The Jurrsasic team built it from their point of view. By the time they started building it and the Harry Potter people chimed in it was too late to alter the plans or it may not have been even noticed till the roller coaster structure was already built.


There's still actually a relatively easy fix, if you build a giant castle wall with a giant water fountain. That would get rid of the ugly sitelines and drown out the screaming and slobbering noise from the coaster so that the diners could eat in peace and enjoy the ambience of Hogsmeade.

These theme parts do not work to quite the degree you described above. There isn't a Jurassic Park team that designs everything on their own and a Harry Potter team that's never consulted until their entire plan seems to be ruined by the Jurassic Park team. While they might have teams set aside for the initial design of the area, it's not like they keep those teams on staff full time for that one specific area in case anything with that area ever needs to be modified in the future. And everything has to go through a park oversight anyway. So whatever they did the Jurassic Park area, the park overlords were aware of whatever might happen to every other area. It's not like it was done in a bubble with no understanding outside of that bubble. Simply put, I don't think they really cared about the sight line from Hogsmeade. You keep trying to compare universal to Walt Disney World lands, and the simple fact is they are two different parks and they are run two different ways. While they are competitors, they are not alike. Universal has never really shown that much care for sight lines within lands before. Harry Potter land is a little bit unique for them in that regard.

 

[keishashadow]

Fallon is actually a good ride. And I don't even like the guy. 100x better than Fast and the Furious.

That is a subjective statement at best but, you are entitled to your own opinion

There were plenty of options but I think the likely answer is that this was conceived from a Juarrsasic Land point of view and they just didn't even think about it till it was too late.

Not for a minute do I think they overlooked a thing here.

As at all large amusement companies, U has an extensive R&D division, complete with multiple layers.

For lack of a better term, new development starts out in a ‘blue sky’ stage. They toss out all the possibilities for a specific attraction on the table. Then, the process of design implementation starts.

I imagine they do their best to aim for achieving magic in a realistic fashion, operating within the various constraints they have in place, Including the cost of land development

It takes an entire team approach to bring a new attraction to fruition, likely even more heavily based upon budgetary considerations now due to financial losses during pandemic.

 

[Pooh's World]

These theme parts do not work to quite the degree you described above. There isn't a Jurassic Park team that designs everything on their own and a Harry Potter team that's never consulted until their entire plan seems to be ruined by the Jurassic Park team. While they might have teams set aside for the initial design of the area, it's not like they keep those teams on staff full time for that one specific area in case anything with that area ever needs to be modified in the future. And everything has to go through a park oversight anyway. So whatever they did the Jurassic Park area, the park overlords were aware of whatever might happen to every other area. It's not like it was done in a bubble with no understanding outside of that bubble. Simply put, I don't think they really cared about the sight line from Hogsmeade. You keep trying to compare universal to Walt Disney World lands, and the simple fact is they are two different parks and they are run two different ways. While they are competitors, they are not alike. Universal has never really shown that much care for sight lines within lands before. Harry Potter land is a little bit unique for them in that regard.

There has been quite a bit that is different over the last two years due to the pandemic/economy. Alot of departments and jobs have been cut, furloughed or downsized or combined within Creative.
So things could have quite easily fallen through the cracks.

 

[Jessem1133]

There has been quite a bit that is different over the last two years due to the pandemic/economy. Alot of departments and jobs have been cut, furloughed or downsized or combined within Creative.
So things could have quite easily fallen through the cracks.

An entire rollercoaster fell thru the cracks?

 

[Pooh's World]

An entire rollercoaster fell thru the cracks?

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

[Jessem1133]

So things could have quite easily fallen through the cracks.

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

[orakle44]

An entire rollercoaster fell thru the cracks?

Right? And also considered the best current roller coaster there is in Orlando. Pooh's World is just grasping at straws here.

 

[macraven]

Support that statement 100%

 

[macraven]

How a simple subject can create an issue is stunning

No tolerance for petty snarky comments !

There is always a price to be paid when posts go south

 

[Lashed34]

Right? And also considered the best current roller coaster there is in Orlando. Pooh's World is just grasping at straws here.

With Veloiccoaster and Hagrid's UO has become THE place to be, both incredible rides.

 

[Alexis56578]

I kinda think it's unreasonable to expect quiet in an amusement park, especially one known for thrill rides

 

[Pooh's World]

I kinda think it's unreasonable to expect quiet in an amusement park, especially one known for thrill rides

While this is true at Universal, it's not true at Disney. There are plenty of quiet places at Disney (like Tom Sawyer's island, Pizza patio area at Hollywood studios, Harambe market at Animal Kingdom before the food stands are open).

The reason it's not true at Universal is primarily because they loudly pump some kind of crowd noise/fake screams or soundtrack everywhere. For example you can hear the fake screams/and noise from the Hulk Ride from the walkway between City Walk and Royal Pacific.

The three broomsticks/Mystic Restaurant porch/patio dining was one area that was quiet at Universal but now that's gone too. Only quiet area really remaining is the American Express lounge.

 

[KrzyKtty101]

While this is true at Universal, it's not true at Disney. There are plenty of quiet places at Disney (like Tom Sawyer's island, Pizza patio area at Hollywood studios, Harambe market at Animal Kingdom before the food stands are open).

The reason it's not true at Universal is primarily because they loudly pump some kind of crowd noise/fake screams or soundtrack everywhere. For example you can hear the fake screams/and noise from the Hulk Ride from the walkway between City Walk and Royal Pacific.

The three broomsticks/Mystic Restaurant porch/patio dining was one area that was quiet at Universal but now that's gone too. Only quiet area really remaining is the American Express lounge.

Once again I reiterate Universal is not Disney. They are not the same. They will never be the same. They might be competitors, but for the love of bologna, they are not the same.