Use a non hopper pass twice!

[SaraJayne]

Why? Because the OP is a criminal? OR because people on here are condoning criminal activity? It's one thing to argue that using mugs from trips past is okay, but I do not get how anyone thinks what the OP did was ok. It does not matter if their ticket was a 6 day or not. The OP stated that their intent was to knowingly and intentionally gain access to the park without paying.

Ummm, no Sherlock. Because if the OP wouldn't have had a six day pass, he wouldn't have gotten into the park.

And since it was a six day pass, he comitted no crime.

 

[seashoreCM]

Just a few weeks ago I lost count of how many days I had left and sure enough the turnstile rejected my ticket after the correct number of days had already been used up.

If I remember correctly, the back side readout said "no more entries".

The fingerprint and/or finger measurement infrmation taken by the finger scanner is digested* down to a single whole number (I think between 1 and 1000). It is very easy to record this number with each ticket's usage history. Back when they were changing over 2 finger scanners to 1 finger scanners, one number was recorded for 2 finger scanners and another number, derived and saved separately, was recorded for 1 finger scanners. Nowadays no part of the system makes use of the 1 finger scanner numbers.

It is possible that the OP went to the turnstile one day earlier that week and the system misfired (or the turnstile CM pushed the wrong button) and let him in. One of the consequences would be inability to use the fastpass machines that day as the system would have no record of the ticket's being used.

* OT: In an earlier lifetime (high school) I read this science fiction short story about how someone made a digest of The Reader's Digest, then someone made a digest of that, and so on. Thus a person could be fed all of the world's news each day using just one sequence of letters for example "IRTNOG". In today's information and computer technology, the process of digesting various groups of information into a finite number of outcomes or buckets (for example all Disney tickets into 1000 possible fingerprint codes) is called hashing. Some hashing formulas can be reverse engineered into the original data, most (including IRTNOG and Disney fingerprint codes) cannot.

 

[momof2n2]

my money is on it being a six-day pass... UCT sells them that way... glad you didn't go home WITHOUT using it!

I think it would be a headache to go to the trouble to TRY to get in, if you weren't sure it was going to work. The whole excursion from TTC to MK is too much time to lose if it isn't going to work

 

[DOOM1001]

Congrats, if you only had a 5 day ticket you committed a crime in the state of Florida! Way to be proud of criminal activity! Here is an excerpt from the Florida criminal code for you:

812.014Theft.
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(1)A person commits theft if he or she knowingly obtains or uses, or endeavors to obtain or to use, the property of another with intent to, either temporarily or permanently:

(a)Deprive the other person of a right to the property or a benefit from the property.

The ticket holder was just checking to see if they got a "Surprise Day" on their pass,Disney does it with "Surprise Fastpasses",I don't see the harm to check if they're doing it with tickets.Now CM's working at the turnstiles are going to be seeing an increase in the amount of people trying this.

 

[nelson84]

You negative posters are just jealous I saved $5.

 

[psupple]

Relax all... and congrats OP! P.S. I bet you had a 6 day tix and secretly knew it anyway LOL!!

 

[TheDisneyGirl02]

Why? Because the OP is a criminal? OR because people on here are condoning criminal activity? It's one thing to argue that using mugs from trips past is okay, but I do not get how anyone thinks what the OP did was ok. It does not matter if their ticket was a 6 day or not. The OP stated that their intent was to knowingly and intentionally gain access to the park without paying.

I don't believe for one second the the OP was a criminal. Trust me, Disney would not let that happen - it was probably a 6 day pass and the OP didn't know it.

Anyway, there are many people who lose track of how many days are on tickets when they don't go to the parks yearly. Since there is really no way to find out for sure, they have to do it at the park. Granted, usually it is done at guest relations, but mistakes happen.

I work at a Disney Store and a few months ago, I had a woman come in who had recently lost her husband. She had a park ticket that was quite old and wanted to know how many days were left on it. Sadly since we don't have that technology, we couldn't tell her. She was so frustrated and at first I thought she was yelling at me, then I realized it was because of the entire situation. Before she left, I told her I was sorry for her loss and she instantly got quiet and thanked me for my help. I really wish I could have helped her that day - I wish I could help all of the guests who come in with that same question, but the only way to find out for sure is a trip to WDW.

 

[Tiredoflurking]

Insult me all you like as it does not change the facts. The OP knowingly and willingly undertook an action with the intent to receive services/benefits without paying for them. You know that slippery slope people always talk about when the whole reusable mug type debate comes up? Well here is an actual crime committed-no slippery slope argument needed. And BTW it is Dr. Columbo, thank you very much.

Yes, yes, yes, we all get it, you're a pretentious attorney with a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. Do you also make people call you Mr. Bghd, Esquire? Both are usually signs of an attorney with a major inferiority complex from a third-rate law school. I'm one of the less pretentious varietals (in fact, I gave up a partnership with a major firm to stay home with my children because I'm blessed with a DH who makes the kind of money you like to brag about), so I know the symptoms and you're rife with them.

Chill out, buddy! Seriously, you're why people hate our profession!

 

[NonScents]

This thread got out of control quickly, and Sassagoula Billy wasn't even involved.

 

[seashoreCM]

Doesn't Undercover Tourist run promotions from time to time with such things as "buy a 5 day, get two days free"?

Anyone remember what is printed on the face of the ticket? (5D or 7D)

 

[Miss Peach]

Yes, yes, yes, we all get it, you're a pretentious attorney with a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. Do you also make people call you Mr. Bghd, Esquire? Both are usually signs of an attorney with a major inferiority complex from a third-rate law school. I'm one of the less pretentious varietals (in fact, I gave up a partnership with a major firm to stay home with my children because I'm blessed with a DH who makes the kind of money you like to brag about), so I know the symptoms and you're rife with them.

Chill out, buddy! Seriously, you're why people hate our profession!

The first guy sure sounded silly with his lawyerly proclamations, but, seriously, I don't think your bragging is any better.

I am guessing most lawyers wouldn't want either of you to be the spokesperson for the profession.

Cathy

 

[okeydokey]

Insult me all you like as it does not change the facts. The OP knowingly and willingly undertook an action with the intent to receive services/benefits without paying for them. You know that slippery slope people always talk about when the whole reusable mug type debate comes up? Well here is an actual crime committed-no slippery slope argument needed. And BTW it is Dr. Columbo, thank you very much.

I doubt he did, This poster posts crazy stuff to get a rise out of people. Just look at like the joke he is.

 

[disneyfantotheend]

I am with the it was a 6 day ticket crew. I don't think you would have gotten in if it wasn't, but congrats on not losing a day you paid for.

 

[grits98]

Why? Because the OP is a criminal? OR because people on here are condoning criminal activity? It's one thing to argue that using mugs from trips past is okay, but I do not get how anyone thinks what the OP did was ok. It does not matter if their ticket was a 6 day or not. The OP stated that their intent was to knowingly and intentionally gain access to the park without paying.

Okay. Seriously? I didn't realize OP had already been convicted by a judge or a magistrate for this ALLEGED offense. Last time I checked, a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And, as I'm sure you're aware, a confession alone is usually insufficient for a judge to convict anyone. You should probably also be careful not to be committing libel against other posters when you decide to call them "criminals." You'll probably say OP doesn't have any damages, but it's probably not a good idea to call other people names, don't you think?

This is ridiculous.

.

 

[grits98]

Yes, yes, yes, we all get it, you're a pretentious attorney with a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. Do you also make people call you Mr. Bghd, Esquire? Both are usually signs of an attorney with a major inferiority complex from a third-rate law school.

Chill out, buddy! Seriously, you're why people hate our profession!

.

 

[LockShockBarrel]

Does it really make a difference? It happened, it's over. Maybe it was a 6 day ticket, maybe the scanner had a malfunction and the OP got lucky, maybe it was innocent and maybe the OP is secretly taking all of our credit card numbers and using them to buy endless supplies of 5/6 day tickets. Is it really worth getting this heated over? The mods will close it eventually anyway without anyone actually winning the arguement.

 

[Pinkdiamond816]

Actually it could have been a misfire of the system, in which I say Yay for you!

Last time I renewed my annual pass instead of it expiring on my original date the machine made the mistake and made the new experation on the date I was renewing, which was 8 days later. And the guest relations guy said "Oh, either I made a mistake or the machine did but you just got an extra 8 days, lucky you." I did not feel the need to fork over the extra cash, and you know what, I went in the park on those 8 free days and enjoyed the fact that technically....I DIDN"T PAY FOR THEM.

But you know, I won't have my Doctorate for another 15 months so I am a second class citizen anyway.

 

[TheDisneyGirl02]

Doesn't Undercover Tourist run promotions from time to time with such things as "buy a 5 day, get two days free"?

Anyone remember what is printed on the face of the ticket? (5D or 7D)

I have never used UT, however based on the tickets that we sell at the Disney Store, it's just the character and it says something like "Magic Your Way". There is one color for children and one for adult and about four characters to pick from for both groups. They can be activated for anything from 3-7 days with hopper, non-hopper, expiration, non-expiration, etc. It is impossible to tell just by looking at those passes the number of days on them.

Like I said, I've never used UT so I'm not sure if they have the same tickets as we sell at the Disney Store.

 

[ct_mickey]

I have had the boimetric scans give us problems in the past, but they usually just "reset" the ticket to the person using the pass in the morning.

I know my ex- and I have switched tickets in the past and never had problems using each others tickets. I believe I read somewhere that it stores the biometrics for the tickets bought together as a "group" since it is difficult keeping tickets within a family organized so that each member always gets the same ticket each time they go to a park.

But that's Florida. I went to Disneyland and California Adventure this past September with a 5 day hopper and they never once used a biometric check to see if I was the same person using the pass or not. Strange why they never incorporated it into the California parks.

 

[doconeill]

I have never used UT, however based on the tickets that we sell at the Disney Store, it's just the character and it says something like "Magic Your Way". There is one color for children and one for adult and about four characters to pick from for both groups. They can be activated for anything from 3-7 days with hopper, non-hopper, expiration, non-expiration, etc. It is impossible to tell just by looking at those passes the number of days on them.

Like I said, I've never used UT so I'm not sure if they have the same tickets as we sell at the Disney Store.

UT sells the same tickets as they do at the parks, the flexible Tyvek kind. All the tickets look the same for adult and children. The only difference is what is printed on the back, and what the ticket actually is is printed on there. So, if it is a Child 6-Day Park Hopper, it will say that on the back. There are several "fronts" that can be used, each is a different color with a different character. Those change from time to time (when they run out of the current stock and get new ones made).

So if the OP purchased an Adult 5-Day Park Hopper from UT and that's all it really was, that's what it would say. If they were running a special and it was really a 6-Day, it would say "6-Day", although sometimes I think they could actually say something like "5-Day Park Hopper plus 1 Day" or something like that - don't remember. But as far as Disney is concerned it is nothing other than a 6-Day.