Update on BLT and THV!

[KyleRayner]

I saw the following posted on another forum and thought I would share.

Hopping along with Deep Croaker:

Just off the internet with the one, the only DEEP CROAKER

DC left his lillypad just long enough to give some (minor) updates.

1) GBLAST123 is correct BLT sales have been pushed back. Training has not yet occured as the very big wigs are in 'urgent steering meetings' CM's have been told, vacations now, none after Mid July.

2) CMs discount for DVC purchases expire completely June 30, 2008. No new employee discount has been announced, this is a first.

3) DEEP CROAKER believs sales will be delayed 3-6 weeks, look for BLT sales to begin by August 15.

4) DC Look for a *MINIMUM* $10.00 per point raise (like they did with BCV) for BLT, I expect to see points at $120-$125 for BLT.

5) Leisure bookings are down at all WDW resorts, but convention travel is up. Even with that, DC expects BLT to be DVC only with the other Garden Wing becoming another tower in the near future. He can't guess if it will be DVC, mixed use or Convention Suites only.

6) The original Maximum Point Allowcation Chart has been deemed too generous..... Watch for a new higher chart to post *BEFORE* DVC BLT sales are announced. It seemed too good to be true......

7) No word on THV, the Hotels Unit is vigorously fighting for control of these units....

8) Eight new sales (MS-GUIDES) have been hired and are finalizing training (3-4) weeks. This is a larger than normal pre-sales hiring, and several are being assigned to phone sales (has not occurred before). DC reads 'this' as something major comming down the sales avenue in next 3-6 weeks..... BLT anyone?

So the guessing and waiting continues.

 

[Longhairbear]

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4) DC Look for a *MINIMUM* $10.00 per point raise (like they did with BCV) for BLT, I expect to see points at $120-$125 for BLT.

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The CA DVC model has been open to the public for two days, according to sources. It wouldn't surprise me if the GCV are the first villas to be pricey, making way for BLT, and HI.

 

[culli]

Sounds like resale and take a chance at 7 month window. $120/pt or more You can get SSR for $80ish or less. $40/pt spread
I know many are waiting in line for BLT but $40/pt is a pretty big price to pay for the 11 month window.

DVC better get active with their ROFR.

 

[DVCSAMNH]

Sounds like resale and take a chance at 7 month window. $120/pt or more You can get SSR for $80ish or less. $40/pt spread
I know many are waiting in line for BLT but $40/pt is a pretty big price to pay for the 11 month window.

DVC better get active with their ROFR.

I'm with you, Culli. I'm just as happy with a room at SSR or on the Boardwalk. I don't see any reason to throw my money at Disney, especially in this environment. It's more points at SSR for me until the deals start to happen at BLT.

 

[culli]

I'm with you, Culli. I'm just as happy with a room at SSR or on the Boardwalk. I don't see any reason to throw my money at Disney, especially in this environment. It's more points at SSR for me until the deals start to happen at BLT.

BOARDWALK BOARDWALK

I find BWV much more appealing than MK villas/area, hopefully prices will continue to drop , I would love to add on to BWV just gotta watch my TS portfolio as a whole

Need more vacation time at work.....keep looking for the retired posting on our job bulletin board and don't see it......heck I'm even willing to get retrained and go back to school - for some reason my employer doesn't see it that way

 

[mrdiscranky]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same super-secret inside-knowledge-we-can-trust source who told the world BLT sales would start July 1st, with notices going out to members a week before that??

Don't believe what you read on the internet folks.

 

[DisFlan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same super-secret inside-knowledge-we-can-trust source who told the world BLT sales would start July 1st, with notices going out to members a week before that??

Don't believe what you read on the internet folks.

He's probably right that resort bookings are down.

We'll stick with our much loved BWV. I'm sure the BLT will be lovely, but $120 pp (if he's right) is a little steep just to own near the MK.

DisFlan

 

[CarolA]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same super-secret inside-knowledge-we-can-trust source who told the world BLT sales would start July 1st, with notices going out to members a week before that??

Don't believe what you read on the internet folks.

This souce has consistenly been good. I tend to trust him more then most, plus he does come back with changes (see the OP)

 

[mrdiscranky]

He's probably right that resort bookings are down.

He's probably right about a bunch of things. But is he right because he has access to secret information, or is he just guessing like the rest of us?

So far, one of his predictions is verifiable, and it ain't true.

 

[DVCJones]

Count me in as one who WAS standing in line for an add-on at BLT. However, at $120-$125 a point, my SSR points seem like a better option. I think I will buy more SSR.

For me, I was only looking to buy about 80 points and planned on staying at BLT every 2- 3 years or so. ( I like to skip around). I was going to bank BLT points for that and use SSR points to skip around. However, I think I will just get more SSR or AKV points and take my chances on BLT.

Besides, we had an awesome stay at SSR in April. I am a HUGE fan of SSR! Combine that with the mantra- "as long as I am at WDW I am happy" They can have BLT at that price.

IF I got lucky and was able to get BLT at 7mo. I will stay there for much less $$$ than those who bought there.

 

[mnra]

as an owner at okw at 50 dollars a point and boardwalk at 80 per point there is no way I would pay 125 for blt. could buy about 1 and half times the points for the same dollars at the other resorts.

 

[CarolA]

He's probably right about a bunch of things. But is he right because he has access to secret information, or is he just guessing like the rest of us?

So far, one of his predictions is verifiable, and it ain't true.

I have talked with him. He gets what he posts from someone inside DVC.

That does not always mean he is right. Disney as you may have noticed changes things. (Just try booking Eagle Pines )

 

[Greg K.]

All those poor unfortunate souls who bought into DVC in the early '90s, at $51 a point, must be .

 

[GoofItUp]

All those poor unfortunate souls who bought into DVC in the early '90s, at $51 a point, must be .

I know! They're laughing at ME!!!

 

[Brian Noble]

Nothing at Disney is written in stone until it really happens.

I would not be surprised by rethinking either point charts or prices, right up to the last minute. My sense for the leisure market is that it is dropping overall, but the high-end stuff is just as popular as it ever was---those folks don't really care if gas is $3 or $5 or $7, because it's not a big chunk of their income either way.

And, don't kid yourself: DVC is not a mass market offering.

 

[JimMIA]

4) DC Look for a *MINIMUM* $10.00 per point raise (like they did with BCV) for BLT, I expect to see points at $120-$125 for BLT.

I've been saying for a long time that I expected BLT to be at least $110-115, and that was before the most recent round of price increases.

My guess is that we'll see a general price increase again when SSR finishes selling out, and then BLT announced at $10 or so above what they're charging for AKV. There is plenty of differentiation over AKV to justify $10 or a little more. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see $120-125 for BLT. Maybe not right at first -- they might do an introductory offer -- but certainly not too far down the road. We won't be buying BLT, but a LOT of people will.

The other two issues, of course, are points-per-night cost and maintenance fees. Those could both be substantially higher than other resorts because of the monorail.

 

[mrdiscranky]

I have talked with him. He gets what he posts from someone inside DVC.

The fact that they are inside DVC doesn't necessarily mean they know anything more than we do. I have a hard time believing that Disney is being incredibly tight lipped, but one of the few people who knows anything is willing to share it with some guy he knows will publish it on the internet.

I think if you read through the "information" posted at the top of this thread, you'll see the inside source is guessing just like the rest of us.

 

[TenThousandVolts]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same super-secret inside-knowledge-we-can-trust source who told the world BLT sales would start July 1st, with notices going out to members a week before that??

Don't believe what you read on the internet folks.

Yes, it is- but this source is the best we got- he gave us AKV point charts long before DVC released them as well as many other spot on (or very close) predictions in the past.

 

[drakethib]

Who is Deep Croaker?

 

[chatchdvc]

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