United Airlines -- Massive schedule changes for Nov/Dec

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From today's New York Times Business Section

October 16, 2001
United Plans Many Changes in Current Bookings

By LAURENCE ZUCKERMAN

Memo to United Airlines passengers: check in with your travel agent.

United, the world's second-largest airline, is carrying out the biggest overhaul it has ever made in its flight schedule, requiring it to contact more than five million passengers traveling in November and December, and alert them to the changes.

Thousands of passengers who booked their reservations months in advance for Thanksgiving, Christmas and other holiday travel may find themselves leaving earlier or later than they planned, or on a smaller plane flown by one of United's commuter partners when they had expected to travel on United itself.

The changes are a result of efforts by United, the principal unit of the UAL Corporation (news/quote), to cut costs and match its operations to severely reduced passenger demand in the wake of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. Other airlines are also making major schedule changes, but United, which had been suffering record losses before the attacks, is cutting back more deeply.

The schedule changes reflect a 23 percent reduction in United's total number of seats, an industry measure of capacity. And they present a trying customer service challenge to United at a time its operations are already under great stress.

Ordinarily, United spends six months preparing a new schedule. In this case, it had weeks. And it has recently begun laying off nearly 20,000 employees.

In a memorandum distributed within the airline on Friday, United said that 90 percent of its advance reservations, or 5.2 million passengers traveling between Oct. 31 and Jan. 7, would be affected by the changes.

It warned, too, that as it introduces the schedule into computer reservation systems this week, some customers' itineraries could be changed more than once.

United, which has been troubled by labor disputes and strategic blunders in recent years, had been severely criticized for its customer service long before Sept. 11.

"It's been a challenging time for all the airlines," said Michael Linenberg at Merrill Lynch (news/quote) in New York. "But for the ones who have not been the best at serving their customers, it is going to be a tougher time."

United said it would use every means it had to alert customers to the changes — including phone calls, letters and e-mail — and is working on a new feature on its Web site that will enable passengers to review changes.

"Our goal is to reach people, and we think we can do it," a spokesman, Joe Hopkins, said.

For the most part, Mr. Hopkins said, people will depart within 90 minutes of their previously scheduled times and will reach their destinations on the same day they had planned.

Beginning next month, United will offer 1,654 flights on an average day, down from 1,850 a day this month and about 2,400 before Sept. 11.

American Airlines, an AMR unit and the only carrier now larger than United, has said that it will reduce its capacity by 20 percent.

Rivals have not been as forthcoming as United about the challenges they face. Dale Morris, a spokesman for American, said the airline did not know how many of its customers would be affected by its schedule changes, because passengers changed their reservations so frequently.

A spokesman for US Airways, Richard Weintraub, said, "Our calls to customers are being handled in an orderly fashion."

As part of its cutbacks, United has announced that it will discontinue the Shuttle by United service, which was intended to compete with Southwest Airlines (news/quote) on the West Coast, and retire 99 of its 600 aircraft. Only US Airways, which is planning to retire 114 planes, has announced proportionately deeper cuts in its fleet.

United's new schedule reduces the number of early morning and late evening flights, which are often the least crowded.

"We are focusing our flights on the peak hours when business and leisure travelers want to fly," United's vice president for planning, Kevin Knight, said in a statement yesterday.

Other cuts will be made by reducing the number of flights between destinations and by replacing United's big jets with smaller regional jets flown by its commuter affiliates.

United said that only passengers forced to make a stop when they had booked a nonstop flight, or whose reservations were changed to departures more than 90 minutes before or after the previously scheduled times, would be offered the option of a refund.
 
The scary thing is, when I tried to call last night to see if our flights in Nov. are affected (one of them was cancelled previously, but we were moved to a different one), they wouldn't even let you wait on hold! There was a recording that the call volume is so heavy that they are not even accepting calls. Ugh!!! Guess I'll have to keep trying tonight.
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Thank you aprincessmom for posting the info.

Today I just received notification that one of our flights has been changed (MCO to LAX) from a morning flight to an evening flight! Previously I had noted that the particular flight I was originally on (from the United Website) had "disappeared" and contacted my travel agent who then proceeded to let me know to keep checking on the United website as they had not been notified.

To cut a long story short, I am not happy that I now get into LA at 8pm rather than 1pm (because we were going to drive to Las Vegas that day and have a room booked in LV that evening). I've asked my travel agent to try and change my flight to the morning flight, but I was wondering if anyone knows if I will be able to change it easily? The unfortunate thing is that I am on a very heavily discounted fare (from Sydney, Australia to Orlando -- with stopovers in SF and LA)

For anyone who wants to know, the United schdule can be found
http://www.uatimetable.com/United.pdf
 
United has decided it would be too hard to contact all 5 MILLION passengers being affected by the changes and are leaving it up to the passengers to check in for changes.
 

oh no!

we are coming back from our honeymoon on november 21 via autotrain. we're supposed to arrive the morning of the 22nd (around 9 am), and then we have a flight on united that same day through dulles (5:30 pm).

I sincerely hope we can still make it, or a flight at a similar time and that the autotrain doesn't run too late.

otherwise, we might miss thanksgiving!!! :eek:
 
I hope they get their website assistance up and running soon.

We leave in about 2 weeks for a multi-leg trip to Hawaii. It involves a couple of late night flights. If they are gone, they our entire itineray will collapse.

I haven't been able to get through, either. We had considered cancelling our trip but decided that we should continue to support the economy. It woun't be as stress-free as anticipated but we decided to go anyway. Now this.............!

If anybody finds a way to contact them, will you please share it? Thanks!
 
It took me about 6 times to hangup and redail the number but I did get thru and then had about a 10 minute wait. I had to straighten out a different trip in November (the new schedule had me leaving on the connecting flight before I arrived) but also added new reservations to MCO in December.
 
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Hi all,

Check the flight details (what flights are available) on their schedule so that you can be forearmed with information about which flight you want (if your flight no longer exists).

Again the URL is
http://www.uatimetable.com/United.pdf

btw, we got the flight we wanted with out too much trouble! :)
 
Yeah, the ressie line is overloaded right now at United.

If you guys want me to check on certain flights, I will try to. There has been a 27% reduction in flights, so some of those flights are bound to be cancelled. The new schedule should be available now.

I will be furloughed as of Oct 31, but I should still have Apollo access at least until then. I can't check individual ressies- just whether or not flights are operating. Just just PM me if you need some help!!;)
 
I'm supposed to come back to work Jan 31,2002. I voluntered to furlough, as there are many people junior to me that really need the job, and I can make do for 3 months. Over 6,000 flight attendants have been furloughed, and about 3,000 of them did the volunteer furlough, so at least 3,000 junior people still have a job!:)

So I should have some spare time on my hands to help all my fellow DIS'ers!;)
 
Hi NotGrumpy:
I too had my MCO to LAX flight changed. I was originally supposed to leave MCO at 10:45 am. While checking UAL's website, I noticed that my flight had disappeared and called United directly. They told me they had changed me to the 5:55 pm flight. I didn't want to leave/get into L.A. that late and asked if they could put me on the 9:15 am flight. They said no problem, confirmed the change, gave me new seat assignments, and sent me a revised itinerary.
 














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