Unfair :(

[lustergirl]

I wasn't saying anything bad about the company or the job, but their product is unwatchable

Tender Donkey is that you?

 

[GrimGrinningGhost25]

Does this strike a cord?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_8knBHEyw

That is awesome!!

Whenever DH and I are at an impasse on something one of us will break out with that and lighten the mood.

Thanks!

 

[GrimGrinningGhost25]

Oh Christ, give me a break. I think most people know that it's unfair that my mother and father died of cancer in the last 4 years both around the age of 60. I think most people know it's not fair that priests molest little kids. I think most people know that some lunatic going in a school and shooting up a school isn't fair, but that is all a relative life experience. This forum discusses problem in respect to Disney and this happens to be one. People spend thousands of dollars on a vacation, and many people struggle to save that money to give their children the Disney Experience, something EVERY child should get. But no, it's not fair that a person staying offsite that is paying the same exact admission price as an on site guest is not getting the option of having the same value for that same price.

They may know but they are not acting like it. Let's put things in prospective people.

Just saying...

 

[Angel Ariel]

Why would Disney do that? Where's the logic? They are a business and make money from on site guests so they wouldn't lower off site guest tickets. What would that do for them???

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I was being a bit tongue in cheek. I know Disney would never do that.

 

[ShayBells]

pssst... purple MB's...

WHAT!!! There's no purple magic bands!!!! That's it. I am never going back to Disney and the whole company will fall apart because of it.

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[MikeandReneePlus5]

When we went in August, our resort wasn't testing the MB and therefore couldn't partake in FP+, was I upset? No, honestly couldn't have cared less. We toured like we always do and took advantage of EMH both in the a.m. and p.m. and got fastpasses for all the rides we wanted with no issues and walked onto many with minimal wait (were the parks empty? Oh no they were not). DH & I just got back on Thursday from a 5 day trip and this time we had MB's and did FP+. We had no issues with linking our A/P's to our bands and everything went smooth. We didn't pull any paper fast passes and didn't feel the need to BUT could have done so as there were still plenty of paper passes to pull. What we did find was that "most" wait times posted in the standby lines were overly exaggerated with the exception of Soarin' which, IMHO, has always been a mess. Twice we got onto TSM within 30 min when both times the wait time listed was 120 min. Now, when it comes to the debate about whether or not FP+ is fair to offsite guests, I have to side with many that it should be a perk to onsite guests, sorry. Whether or not that changes, remains to be seen but I wouldn't get upset if I stayed offsite and didn't get the perk either. Since this whole test began, it's been said that testing was for "resort guests" only so not sure why people are getting so upset as we would have had no issues pulling paper passes for most of the headliners (again, with the exception of Soarin') and we weren't at the parks at rope drop either. And finally, as far as staying onsite vs. offsite, it is a personal choice and to say that staying onsite isn't worth it anymore, well, that would all depend on who you ask. For us, we've done both and I can tell you that I would never stay offsite again for many reasons and the busses aren't one of them as we are not bus people and rent a car always AND I can honestly say we don't spend a fortune staying onsite either.

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[mommyrosa2]

And am I the only one who thinks the MB's are uncomfortable... I, honestly was ready to throw the damn thing out by the end of our trip...just sayin'

 

[mommyrosa2]

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[Angel Ariel]

Yes those are all perks and you are right they are for resort guests only. While we pay the same price for tickets, we don't all pay the same price for a hotel, we don't all choose to stay with Disney and I feel that resorts guests should get those for staying on property. You want those perks, stay at a Disney resort. Pretty simple.

I don't disagree. Onsite guests DO get those perks. As they should, as they are "resort" perks. Extra time on property, free transportation to the airport, dining plan...these are all *resort* perks.

Staying at a Disney resort does not, however, automatically grant you access to the parks. You need to buy a separate park admission for that. That park admission costs the same for everyone, regardless of the hotel they stay at. Therefore, that admission should provide the same access to attractions for *all* guests. And thankfully, it will once FP+ is out of testing.

People have a sense of entitlement and complaining just makes things worse. You can complain and go and be miserable or you can get over it and enjoy your time at Disney.

Lol..and again the accusation is entitlement and if you don't like it, you're going to be miserable at disney etc. It *is* possible to have concerns about FP+ and still have an amazing trip at Disney. I know, b/c I had a fantastic time at Disney earlier this month. I didn't think about any of the DIS threads at all while I was there. That said, my experience also did nothing to assuage my concerns about FP+. That doesn't mean my trip was miserable

 

[kmarie99]

Is this necessary? Because someone else likes something you don't, do you have to be so belittling?

Not everyone feels the same way you do about Disney, clearly, but you don't have to be rude.

After reading this persons post... I think they do have to be rude, it is just the type of person they are. They take pleasure in being brash and rude to everyone to is trying to say anything that is against their way of thinking, there is nothing you can say that is going to stop this person from acting this way

They don’t like to hear other peoples opinion… because it is not their option it is wrong.

I pity people like this. And not that is not from a Disney apologist but as a person that does not see the point in arguing just for the sake of arguing.

 

[GrimGrinningGhost25]

If you gave this dude everything he wanted he'd find something to wrongly complain about. Sent from my iPhone using DISBoards

I think you just summed it up for me.

My point is that people are loosing sight of what Disney is and what it has to offer.

 

[butsy113]

pssst... purple MB's...

That's what I'm talking about! Glad someone else sees the need for purple bands

 

[BayouMickey]

And am I the only one who thinks the MB's are uncomfortable... I, honestly was ready to throw the damn thing out by the end of our trip...just sayin'

Funny question.. My DS says so, my DD's are like OMG accessories!! But me, like I've stated before I go to Cancun every year (grown up get away) and at our resort we wear bracelets that coordinate guest level.. and they are those cheap not exactly paper ones. So I find the MB's a refreshing change

 

[Samdari]

it's not fair that a person staying offsite that is paying the same exact admission price as an on site guest is not getting the option of having the same value for that same price.

But what you are missing is that they are NOT paying the same price. They are paying at least $100 more per night for comparable accomodations. That $100 buys better access to the parks. If it didn't, they couldn't charge it, noone would pay it - the properties themselves just are not worth what they charge.

Onsite guests pay $100/day for better access at the parks, period. And it doesn't go down per day for each day you are there like the tickets do. Please do not fool yourself into thinking that onsite guests are paying the same to go to the parks as offsite guests. They don't, onsite guests pay FAR, FAR more.

Many theme parks offer far better perks than even FP+ for guests who pay a premium to stay at their hotels (see Universal).

Pay more. Get more. Fair. I don't see the problem.

 

[ShayBells]

I think you just summed it up for me. My point is that people are loosing sight of what Disney is and what it has to offer.

Amen.

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[Angel Ariel]

While I hear what you're saying, how would it be any different than onsite resort guests who are entitled to EMH's and therefore a "jumpstart" to rides and paper fastpasses? Right now, that is a perk for onsite guests who are paying the same ticket price as an offsite guest who doesn't get that perk but are paying more for a room to get that perk

The extra hours on site is a perk of staying onsite. I have no issue with that. Offsite guests do not have access to the park during those hours at all - they are not open to the general public, and they are not paid for by the theme park admission. As for FPs being available during EMH...FP machines are closed during evening EMH. I didn't think they were open with morning EMH either. I know they sometimes open before 9, like when DHS starts letting everyone in at 8:45 instead of 9, but I don't recall being able to get them at 8am when the park didn't open until 9.

 

[mommyrosa2]

Funny question.. My DS says so, my DD's are like OMG accessories!! But me, like I've stated before I go to Cancun every year (grown up get away) and at our resort we wear bracelets that coordinate guest level.. and they are those cheap not exactly paper ones. So I find the MB's a refreshing change

DH didn't mind his but said mine was probably uncomfortable because my wrist was so small. I had heard of some folks cutting theirs down but was afraid to cut mine. Both my DD's can't wait to get one next summer

 

[Angel Ariel]

But what you are missing is that they are NOT paying the same price. They are paying at least $100 more per night for comparable accomodations.

Purchasing a room at a Disney resort does not get you access to the theme parks. So, yes, everyone does pay the same price for theme park admission.

 

[Granny square]

Is it really "double dipping"? FP+ limits you to one park-3 fast passes. In the past we've been able to use up to 6 or 7 fast passes in one day and at multiple parks and for the same rides! Yes I did take advantage of what you are calling double dipping. The FP+ is in its testing phase. So there will be some tweaking I'm sure. Just like anything it has its pros and cons. Honestly I am not a big fan of FP+ because I think it has turned Fast Pass into SLOW Pass! But that's another thread!

Lol yep. Rationalization at its best.

 

[BayouMickey]

DH didn't mind his but said mine was probably uncomfortable because my wrist was so small. I had heard of some folks cutting theirs down but was afraid to cut mine. Both my DD's can't wait to get one next summer

you do know that the MB has an extention on it and you can easily pull it off?
see here:
http://www.wdwhints.com/2013/10/magic-band-hint-smaller-band-for.html

hope it makes things more comfortable for you!