Uh oh...who heard Sherri Shepherd on the View today?

[kaytieeldr]

I am not accusing ANYONE of lying. I totally DID NOT mean to give that impression. I am only saying thet just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all. I have spent a fair amount of time conversing with disabled individuals and families at Disney in the interest of carrying info back to others. It may be time of year, ect, but I can only report on what I have observed and been told by familes using disabled access. Many, many times they are completely by passing the regular lines. It may not be waht happens all the time, but it DOES happen. That is all. I don't think anyone here is lying, but I do think we have had different experiences.

Do you think it's possible, based on what people like ireland nicole and SueM have posted, that the people with whom you've spoken THINK they bypassed the wait because they physically bypassed the line? I've described my own 'bypass the line' experience at KS (as has SueM); the next-to-last night Pleasure Island was open, I physically bypassed the line at Adventurers Club and sat just outside the door, waiting for my friends in line to reach the same spot so we could enter the club.

I also regularly get split off from the line at Dinosaur, only to be forced to wait on the upper level... and wait... and wait... while Guests pour down the stairs and board immediately, because there are too many wheelchair Guests on the attraction already.

Re: the bolded section. Respectfully, your experiences are conversations; ours are our actual lives.

 

[PatsMom]

We never used the GAC but may have to this summer. My 12 year old dd broke her leg in two places at our schools' Fun Day. She had to have surgery to put screws in and has been in a full leg cast since May 28th and will not get it off until July 28. We arrive at Disney July 30. The orthopedic surgeon has already told us - mimimum walking, no water slides etc. So while it may seem like a "miracle healing" that she can get up from the wheelchair she really won't be able to walk for long periods of time. No miracle - just a medical fact.

She will have spent most of her summer in a full leg cast - we have a inground pool that she hasn't been able to use and we've had to pay hundreds of dollars in changing/cancellation fees with the airlines.

Believe me I would love to go back to that day and have her not go down the inflatable slide. I know full well that this is a limited bump in the road and MANY people have a lot worse things happen to them. I know this because my own ds has bone cancer when he was 3 and had to have his leg amputated and a year of chemo. Thankfully he survived and is a wonderful young adult.

So if you see a 12 year old getting out of the wheelchair at times it's not a miracle cure - don't be so hasty to assume the worse in people.

I'm surprised she won't still be in a protective "boot". I had to do that for another two months after my serious break. But I would bet that she won't feel like doing any serious walking. If she's been non weight bearing for two months, you lost all muscle tone in the leg.

But you still won't need to get a GAC unless she has issues other than mobility. You don't need a GAC to get a wheelchair and as others have said, the lines are mostly accessible. The wheelchair is all the accomodation you need if that makes sense.

Also, at 12, she may not be comfortable in an adult rental wheelchair. Depending on where her break is it might be advisable for her to elevate the leg for a while too. I had a rental wheelchair the insurance company paid for that had a rest for the leg. They continued to pay for it for the two months I was listed as "limited mobility". If your DD has a child's wheelchair she might be more comfortable in that than an adult rental.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Yes - we had to rent a wheelchair for her as soon as she was put in the cast, we will be brining it with us.

She may, or may not be in the boot cast - we won't know until they do some more x-rays in the next few weeks.

I wasn't (and still am not) sure if she would need the GAC or not. It was suggested to us by some Disney World employees. She will not have to be in the wheelchair constantly - just not for walking through parks and not for staying in long lines. We will utilize fastpass as we have always done. If Disney suggests it again to us we will see about it, if not we will just do what we have always done, with some minor adjustments.

 

[Rylee]

I have avoided this thread but need to say something........then I will say no more.

My son is 12. We took him to Disneyland last year and yes, we used a GAC. He uses a wheelchair but can walk. He walks like a 2 year old and has no balance so, trust me, you wouldn't want him standing beside you in line. He uses oxygen, a feeding pump, IV pumps and all these things come with him to the park. The wheelchair must be kept with us due to the thousands of dollars in machinery on it. Yes, sometimes the lines are quicker, no, sometimes they are not.........sometimes the wait was longer............Small World was 1.5 hours in what some of you are referring to as the FOTL pass. Yes, people abuse the system......... Honestly, I am glad my son can return to Disney in March with us as he has a disease that will take him from us at a young age. My very last concern, when we are there to see his smiling face light up when he gets to enjoy 2 weeks of his year without constant hospital stays etc, is whether or not the other people using the 'special access line' deserve it or not......My only focus is on my family. We aren't cheating anyone, we aren't line cutting, we are doing what the cast members tell us too, we are accomodating his very REAL needs............Do some people use it that shouldn't? Absolutely. Will I let it ruin my holiday with my precious boy if we have to wait cause some of them are in front of us.........No........you know why........cause this will likely be MY child's last visit to Disney.

I hope your son's smiling face will provide you with some beautiful memories.

 

[melancholywings]

I only see one person here who could possibly be classified as doing that. You assume that none of us have been there, and you are wrong. I teach children with disabilities every day and see thier struggles.

I have a lot of respect for people who work with disabled children. However living with a disability and raising a child with a disability is a different world than teaching a disabled child. As a parent you can't check out at the end of the day, there's no weekend break, heck I can't even find a baby sitter so there's no 'break' at all. You live it 24/7. It is very different.
It's clear from some of the posts on this thread that some people 'haven't been there'. Because if they had they would demonstrate more compassion and understanding than they are showing.

I have NEVER heard of a child denied credit because of ilness related absence.

It happens. I am active in support groups and communities dealing with my child's disability. And although it is not frequent, it is more frequent that it should be - it does happen where children are denied rights based solely on the complications of their disability. Where parents have to fight to get a 504 in place. Where schools will downright refuse to follow those 504's even the basic ones. Even though it's illegal. And so wrong, and frustrating - it happens. But to deny that it happens is like sticking your head in the sand and denying the exsistence of anything you can't see.

In fact, if we have a standing doctor's note about a mediacl condition all a parent is required to do is call in to say thier child is sick. The absences are not counted agianst them and we send work to them. We do everything we can to accomodate everyone no matter what.
I think very few disabled people are maliciously denyed their rights, at least in our school system.

You're in a good school system then, I am too. I adore DD's nurse. She's the bee's knees. I'm sad that she's moving up a grade because her teacher is amazing. But I'm not naive enough to believe that all disabled children are having the same experience just because I lucked out. Or to dismiss the pain that other families are going through - just because I'm lucky to have bought a house where I did.

For us it is often not that we don't WANT to help, we do. Lack of funds is most often the reason we cannot accomodate someone. There is a LOT of money involved in accomdations for the disabled, and many schools jst don't have it. it is sad, but true in many cases. We have a center for autism at our school, and I interact with those kids every day, so believe me, I get it.

Money isn't the root of the problem. All large elementry schools should have on staff nurses (for everyone). And throwing money at the situation won't resolve it. A lot of the problem is lack of understanding about the needed accomidations and fear. Fear of taking responsibility and legal fear as well. Money by it's self won't solve those perceptions.

For me it is not about people going ahead or not, but about the need for Disney to change thier policy to reflect what they are actually doing to accomodate gusets with disabilitles. As it is, it causes a lot of confusion and resentment.

I don't get this. Why any adult would be jealous of a disabled child riding Peter Pan twice. Talk about wacked out priorities. It's a theme park. It's not life or death. That child isn't disabled to personally spite you. Yet judging by some of the posts on this thread some people clearly feel it unfair that Disney accomidates the disabled. Enough so that theyd' want to fake it (PS. If any of you Fakey-Fakers want to really get into character you should take on some of my copays! Nothing says 'I'm disabled!' like having to fork out $150 a month on meds). It's as selfish and full of crazy like those mom's fighting it out in the tea cup line.

Disney's policy follows the law in terms of not violating privacy rights. They legally can not ask a person what their disability is, just like they can't legally ask you what your religion is. Or to deny to accomidate you based on gender or race. They're not going to 'break the law' just so some adult whiner can get on Dumbo faster. I think instead of changing policy Disney needs to start giving out pins that say: We love all our guests equally. Please do not be jealous of the child with cancer in the wheel chair.

 

[Broadway Duchess]

I have pretty much been a lurker here for the longest time, but these are the types of threads that work my nerves.

No, I don't have a lot of experience with FOTL or GAC, and I thank God every day that I don't. If some kid has a disability, however visible, and it allows him or her to board a ride before I do, so what? I have found that I've gotten plenty of pixie dust for just being in the right place at the right time, and thankfully, I have my health.

My family was a Wish family back in 2000, as DS11 had cancer at 18 months and that would be our last trip prior to the bone marrow transplant. The fact that we were even there was a blessing, because at 18 months, MAW couldn't really determine if Disney was my DS's wish. The nurses coordinated the whole thing and presented it to our family as a "get a break before the real 'hit fits the shan'" type of thing.

We had a GAC then but never used it to get FOTL access. We shared a plane ride with another Wish family with a daughter whose disabilities were very perceptible. That was their family's first trip and they needed whatever assistance they could, especially with all the extra equipment they had.

I don't know if FOTL with a GAC is real or imagined, but shouldn't the fact that you're in the happiest place on Earth with your loved ones be good enough? I just don't understand all of the ire, especially against children you don't even know!

 

[Metsoskil]

I can't understand all the fuss. I'm blessed w/ 2 healthy kids. We use touring plans and hit RD to minimize wait time. I can honestly say that I've never paid much attention to whether people with disabilities get to jump in front of us in line. Even if they had, who cares? If it adds a minute to my wait and makes the day of some kid who's got stuff to deal with, great. That's what Disney is all about. If someone is using the system for their own gain and doesn't have a disability, it's definitely wrong, but it's going to cause them more missed sleep than me. Sometimes people are idiots. That's life.

 

[Disneyadore]

You know, in Fantasyland in Disneyland in an ECV, I tried to wait until what I perceived as my turn in line, despite having to use the wheelchair entrance. Sometimes the CMs were agreeable, more often they would insist I board the next available vehicle.

I don't know of a single disabled person fighting for or demanding or asking for "preferred" anything. I don't understand why you think that. If a Walt Disney World or Disneyland Resort Cast Member chooses to provide a little pixie dust, let them. Maybe it'll make up just a little bit for the sixty-seven times that Guest had to stop short that morning to avoid hitting Guests of all ages who 'didn't see' them or tried to beat them into an empty spot in a line...

Yes, once in a while I get directed to an alternate entrance at a WDW attraction. I use an ECV, I have trouble with a wheelchair and have nobody to push me - and no, I'm NOT looking for sympathy. But by using the alternate entrance, I miss out on some attractions' best features. I've only been through Tower of Terror's lobby and library three times in six years - despite many rides, and I've had to BEG to get two of those trips and sneak through for the first one ; I haven't been through the mainstream queue at Rock 'N Roller Coaster, not because I don't want to, but because it's not ECV accessible; and I only got to ride Pirates of the Caribbean with assistance from two managers from a different area in Magic Kingdom.

I did use a WC and yes we got preferred access to rides and shows. No matter how you sugar cote this its the blunt truth. And you know why CM give "Pixy Dust" to people using WC or an electric scooter? Because they are fed up being cursed and people yelling at them. A scooter,WC or GAC means preferred access and that is the plain truth.
I always wonder why it is such a big secret and people trying to hide it? It takes only seconds to Google sites that provide every one with the perfect information how to cheat the CM and what to tell to get the most profitable GAC.

I'll trade your disabilities this second for my cancer so please don't talk to me about walking in THAT shoes. And YES the ADA system is providing FOLT access.We saw the same WC user and her companions TWICE using there WC access because they yelled at the CM on duty. They wanted ,demanded access now that second and they got it.
I did see the abuse and "Magical Healings" many times.

The whole ADA system stinks and is only causing trouble. Every one can use it and god forbid if any one dares to ask questions. The ADA has become a Moloch that one of these day will implode.
It would only be fair if those who realty need it could use it and not the lazy or cheating ones.
Just read the signs and advertises from the scooter and WC rent companies.
"Drive All Day,Dance All Night".
Ever wondered why you have to search with a lamp for GAC users in Disney Paris? They have a very strict policy and only those who truly need it get this privilege.

This May we went with my sister and her family who is a total WDW virgin.
My BIL told us a hundred times he saw a "Magical Healing" again. If not on the rides than in the restaurants.
People jumping off there scooter or out there WC just and running into a restaurant are just ...................sad?

 

[ireland_nicole]

I did use a WC and yes we got preferred access to rides and shows. No matter how you sugar cote this its the blunt truth. And you know why CM give "Pixy Dust" to people using WC or an electric scooter? Because they are fed up being cursed and people yelling at them. A scooter,WC or GAC means preferred access and that is the plain truth.

And I'll trade your disabilities this second for my cancer so please don't talk to me about walking in THAT shoes. And YES the ADA system is providing FOLT access.We saw the same WC user and her companions TWICE using there WC access because they yelled at the CM on duty. They wanted ,demanded access now that second and they got it.
I did see the abuse and "Magical Healings" many times.

The whole ADA system stinks and is only causing trouble. Every one can use it and god forbid if any one dares to ask questions.
It would only be fair if those who realty need it could use it and not the lazy or cheating ones.
Just read the signs ans advertises from the scooter and WC rent companies.
"Drive All Day,Dance All Night".
Ever wondered why you have to search with a lamp for GAC users in Disney Paris? They have a very strict policy and only those who truly need get this privilege.

This May we went with my sister who is a total WDW virgin.
My BIL told us a hundred times he saw a "Magical Healing" again. If not on the rides than in the restaurants.
People jumping off there scooter or out there WC just and running into a restaurant are just ...................sad?

1. If possible, please work on your spelling; your post is somewhat taxing to read due to all of the errors.

2. There are many reasons for fewer w/c users at Disneyland Paris; not the least of which is the fewer number of visitors to start with. If you prefer Disneyland Paris, believe me, no one here will argue with you going back more often instead of WDW where, apparently, you are offended so often.

3.You use terms like "a lot" or "a hundred times"; if y'all are needing to discuss this issue over 100 times in less than a month, perhaps it might be worth finding new topics of conversation.

4. There are no winners in the "my disability is worse than yours" game. Cancer (or any other diagnosis) is no excuse for complete narcissism. There are many sources of help and support available. I sincerely hope you are able to complete treatment successfully and will someday look back on this period of your life with the wisdom and perspective of a cancer survivor.

5. The "preferred access" to the shows means viewing what few we can see from the childrens stroller in the back of the theater- where I come from that is not exactly VIP seating. However, it allows us easier exit if they become overstimulated, and is the only way for us to see any show.

6. Although you may have witnessed one family behaving in a very non disney-esque way, WE do not "curse and yell"; nor do most. I personally have never ever witnessed what you are describing.

7. I highly doubt anyone was literally running into a restaurant as Disney is usally relatively crowded, thereby making this action difficult at best. There are many reasons someone who requires an ECV might actually be able to walk a short distance.

 

[ireland_nicole]

I have avoided this thread but need to say something........then I will say no more.

My son is 12. We took him to Disneyland last year and yes, we used a GAC. He uses a wheelchair but can walk. He walks like a 2 year old and has no balance so, trust me, you wouldn't want him standing beside you in line. He uses oxygen, a feeding pump, IV pumps and all these things come with him to the park. The wheelchair must be kept with us due to the thousands of dollars in machinery on it. Yes, sometimes the lines are quicker, no, sometimes they are not.........sometimes the wait was longer............Small World was 1.5 hours in what some of you are referring to as the FOTL pass. Yes, people abuse the system......... Honestly, I am glad my son can return to Disney in March with us as he has a disease that will take him from us at a young age. My very last concern, when we are there to see his smiling face light up when he gets to enjoy 2 weeks of his year without constant hospital stays etc, is whether or not the other people using the 'special access line' deserve it or not......My only focus is on my family. We aren't cheating anyone, we aren't line cutting, we are doing what the cast members tell us too, we are accomodating his very REAL needs............Do some people use it that shouldn't? Absolutely. Will I let it ruin my holiday with my precious boy if we have to wait cause some of them are in front of us.........No........you know why........cause this will likely be MY child's last visit to Disney.

 

[Disneyadore]

1. If possible, please work on your spelling; your post is somewhat taxing to read due to all of the errors.

As soon as you can answer me in perfect Fench,German or Dutch. My spell checker did find also spelling errors in you perfect writing.


Just a fresh view from an outsider to this total rotten ADA system

4. There are no winners in the "my disability is worse than yours" game. Cancer (or any other diagnosis) is no excuse for complete narcissism. There are many sources of help and support available. I sincerely hope you are able to complete treatment successfully and will someday look back on this period of your life with the wisdom and perspective of a cancer survivor.

Doctor take your own medicine.

 

[SueM in MN]

I hope your son's smiling face will provide you with some beautiful memories.

Yes - we had to rent a wheelchair for her as soon as she was put in the cast, we will be brining it with us.

She may, or may not be in the boot cast - we won't know until they do some more x-rays in the next few weeks.

I wasn't (and still am not) sure if she would need the GAC or not. It was suggested to us by some Disney World employees. She will not have to be in the wheelchair constantly - just not for walking through parks and not for staying in long lines. We will utilize fastpass as we have always done. If Disney suggests it again to us we will see about it, if not we will just do what we have always done, with some minor adjustments.

I don’t know if you have looked there yet, but you can find more information about GACs in post #6 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread. As I posted before, the information from that post is not ‘official’ Disney - they don’t publish anything official about Guest Assistance Cards, but it was written from my family’s experience traveling with a DD with multiple disabilities. She is 24 and has used a wheelchair since she was 3. She has also visited WDW at least once a year since 1986 and the last 8-10 years, we have gone to WDW with her twice a year, on trips lasting 10-14 days.
The information was reviewed for me by CMs who work at Guest Relations at WDW and by CMs who work attractions at WDW.
There is a link to that thread in my signature.

IN THE LAST 2 YEARS, WDW HAS DONE QUITE A FEW THINGS TO MAKE SURE GUESTS WITH WHEELCHAIRS KNOW WHERE THE ‘MOBILITY ENTRANCES’ ARE.

1. In the past, WDW had Guidebooks for Guests with Disabilities. These were actual booklets , which gave a bit of information about the attractions and what was available to assist guests with disabilities. These were available at Guest Relations and at the wheelchair/ECV rental areas.
   
2. In October of 2008, WDW started making Guide MAPs for Guests with Disabilities. These look the same as the ‘regular’ guidemaps, but have additional information for guests with disabilities.
   
3. On our last trip, in May 2010, we saw these Guide maps for Guests with Disabilities out with the other maps at the entrance to all the parks. The bins they were in were marked with a blue wheelchair symbol. The maps themselves look like the other park maps, except they have a black box across the top, with the words “Guide for Guests with Disabilities.”
   
4. One of the things these maps include is the same instructions on how to use Fastpass as the ‘regular’ park maps.
5. Another thing these maps include is they list the Mobility Access for each attraction. For those attractions without Fastpass, in most cases, it says :Enter through Standard queue.
6. For attractions with Fastpass, it almost always says: Obtain a FASTPASS OR use the Stand-By queue. If FASTPASS is not available, enter through standard queue.

(Stand-By queue, regular queue and standard queue all mean the same thing - the queue used by all guests.
So, WDW is trying to get the word out that guests with wheelchairs and ECVs should be using the regular queue or getting Fastpasses.

There are people who try to bully their way in, ahead of other people. We were once waiting at the Jungle Cruise for the accessible boat when a man came up on an ECv with his party. He showed the CM a GAC and told her that she was “obligated” to put him on right away because he had a card that “says you have to.” She explained that there were other people ahead of him waiting in the accessible line and that he would need to wait his turn. He kept complaining and she finally said he would need to ask the group waiting if he could go ahead of us (I think it was about 4 other parties). One person said, “Yes. Let him go ahead even though we are all waiting because I don’t want to be in line with him and listen to him complaining the whole time.” The CM did allow him to go ahead after the whole group agreed, but did point out that the only reason she was doing it was because we had agreed we did not want to wait with him.
In all our years of traveling, I have not seen anyone else like that.

Guests like him are probably why the GAC has these words printed right on the front:
“This card with alert our Cast Members to provide the assistance you have requested where applicable. It is NOT intended to provide immediate access.”

The last few times we have gotten GACs, the CM has highlighted that information, shown it to use, read it to us and initialed that they did bring it to our attention.

 

[Max1*]

I don't watch the view and I don't know who this lady is. I do however go to Disney yearly and here is my take. If a person who is unable to ride, wait, stand in a line, sun, heat etc... and I have to wait just an extra 5 or so min. because they got on before me, I'm at Disney World with my family we are having a great time and I don't care. My children are fine and small but able bodies little girls and thats all that matters.

HOWEVER do you want to know what really irks me? When a perfectly health person sits down on the bus when there are no seats left at all and leaves me standing holding my 2 year old and leaving my 7 year old leaning against her dad or I hoping she doesn't fall down while some guy sips his water and tells his buddy hey what a crappy place to eat that was! Now that makes me MAD! maybe they have disabled as well IDK but I've seen more people sit on their butts on the bus who seem able boddied while a mother or multiple yound little chlidren stand than I have seen people go to the front of some ride line!

Sorry off topic continue

 

[tjmw2727]

I did use a WC and yes we got preferred access to rides and shows. No matter how you sugar cote this its the blunt truth. And you know why CM give "Pixy Dust" to people using WC or an electric scooter? Because they are fed up being cursed and people yelling at them. A scooter,WC or GAC means preferred access and that is the plain truth.
I always wonder why it is such a big secret and people trying to hide it? It takes only seconds to Google sites that provide every one with the perfect information how to cheat the CM and what to tell to get the most profitable GAC.

I'll trade your disabilities this second for my cancer so please don't talk to me about walking in THAT shoes. And YES the ADA system is providing FOLT access.We saw the same WC user and her companions TWICE using there WC access because they yelled at the CM on duty. They wanted ,demanded access now that second and they got it.
I did see the abuse and "Magical Healings" many times.

The whole ADA system stinks and is only causing trouble. Every one can use it and god forbid if any one dares to ask questions. The ADA has become a Moloch that one of these day will implode.
It would only be fair if those who realty need it could use it and not the lazy or cheating ones.
Just read the signs and advertises from the scooter and WC rent companies.
"Drive All Day,Dance All Night".
Ever wondered why you have to search with a lamp for GAC users in Disney Paris? They have a very strict policy and only those who truly need it get this privilege.

This May we went with my sister and her family who is a total WDW virgin.
My BIL told us a hundred times he saw a "Magical Healing" again. If not on the rides than in the restaurants.
People jumping off there scooter or out there WC just and running into a restaurant are just ...................sad?

I am sorry you are so bitter and I wish you health.

I spent my day with my dear god daughter who is fighting brain cancer and will likely loose . Today she swam and rode her bike and is now at the movies outdoors with my "blessedly healthy dd's" (thank GOD) who lost their dad in December suddenly and without warning.

We traveled with them to Disney as a wish trip last year along with my sil who has MS and my mil in a wheel chair and I can still say to you that we did not receive the "perks" you claim we "should, would, or could have".

We got a "shady wait" because my sil has MS and a couple times in fantasy land we we bypassed the lines due to the accessability of the wheel char and got to to wait in another place and were happy to do so.

I would have waited in a hundred lines to see the faces of my god daughter and my dd's after what they had been through. Death and facing death and chemo. Go ahead and tell that 11 year old that may or may not return to ride dumbo that she is an inconvenience to you.

 

[SueM in MN]

I am sorry you are so bitter and I wish you health.

I spent my day with my dear god daughter who is fighting brain cancer and will likely loose . Today she swam and rode her bike and is now at the movies outdoors with my "blessedly healthy dd's" (thank GOD) who lost their dad in December suddenly and without warning.

We traveled with them to Disney as a wish trip last year along with my sil who has MS and my mil in a wheel chair and I can still say to you that we did not receive the "perks" you claim we "should, would, or could have".

We got a "shady wait" because my sil has MS and a couple times in fantasy land we we bypassed the lines due to the accessability of the wheel char and got to to wait in another place and were happy to do so.

I would have waited in a hundred lines to see the faces of my god daughter and my dd's after what they had been through. Death and facing death and chemo. Go ahead and tell that 11 year old that may or may not return to ride dumbo that she is an inconvenience to you.

 

[ireland_nicole]

I am sorry you are so bitter and I wish you health.

I spent my day with my dear god daughter who is fighting brain cancer and will likely loose . Today she swam and rode her bike and is now at the movies outdoors with my "blessedly healthy dd's" (thank GOD) who lost their dad in December suddenly and without warning.

We traveled with them to Disney as a wish trip last year along with my sil who has MS and my mil in a wheel chair and I can still say to you that we did not receive the "perks" you claim we "should, would, or could have".

We got a "shady wait" because my sil has MS and a couple times in fantasy land we we bypassed the lines due to the accessability of the wheel char and got to to wait in another place and were happy to do so.

I would have waited in a hundred lines to see the faces of my god daughter and my dd's after what they had been through. Death and facing death and chemo. Go ahead and tell that 11 year old that may or may not return to ride dumbo that she is an inconvenience to you.

 

[heatherleigh]

Oh boy. Isn't she the one who thinks the earth might be flat?

Yes, this is the same thing I was thinking. She was never the brightest bulb.

I have a friend with manchausen by proxy who is a fan of the GACs. She actually refers to it as a "front of the line pass". She has encouraged me in the past to get one because my kids are speech delayed! As if. I attribute her mentality to her mental disorder though- the manchausen. Her son doesn't have a thing wrong w/ him, but that's a whole different story.

 

[kaytieeldr]

It would only be fair if those who realty need it could use it and not the lazy or cheating ones.

Quit judging, and quit this amateur analysis of what others are doing.

The whole ADA system stinks and is only causing trouble. Every one can use it and god forbid if any one dares to ask questions. The ADA has become a Moloch that one of these day will implode.

Stop it. Just stop it. I don't recall where you live, but your behavior is abominable. I would NEVER criticize another country's laws that attempt to make all its citizens equal. Come over here and LIVE over here. First, though, you'll have to do the impossible - live here twenty, thirty, or more years ago so you have a basis for comparison. Then live here now - for a year or whatever. Don't visit a theme park. Don't come as a tourist. LIVE here. The Americans with Disabilities Act wasn't created for theme park access. It was created to provide reasonable accommodation in everyday life.
That a few people choose to take advantage of the ADA for theme park access is a pity. It's disingenuous to paint every wheelchair user, every GAC holder, every ECV rider with the same brush.

Just read the signs and advertises from the scooter and WC rent companies.

Anyone who has an issue with that needs to address it to the RENTAL COMPANIES. Any rental company that advertises this recognized an opportunity and markets to it. DON'T blame the consumers. I know this one. I'm 100% certain the marketing came first. I'm EQUALLY certain any company that does this does NOT promote, enocourage, recommend, advise, or advocate the use of the ECV to skip lines. You said it yourself: "Drive All Day,Dance All Night". See? Nothing to do with lines.

This May we went with my sister and her family who is a total WDW virgin.
My BIL told us a hundred times he saw a "Magical Healing" again. If not on the rides than in the restaurants.
People jumping off there scooter or out there WC just and running into a restaurant are just ................... sad?

Stop coming. You don't like the way things operate in the United States. You don't like the laws. You don't like that our government and our businesses make accommodations so people who can't -for example - visit EuroDisney CAN visit Walt Disney World. Don't visit.

 

[Metsoskil]

I would NEVER criticize another country's laws that attempt to make all its citizens equal.

While I don't disagree with any of your sentiments, the ADA was not created to make citizens equal, but rather to protect those with disabilities from discrimination. It's semantics, and I'm sure you knew this already, but I think it's important to mention because it's hard to argue (or at least I think so) that those with disabilities SHOULD be discriminated against.

 

[tjmw2727]

Thanks sue and nicole - this was a very good day for us indeed