two-way radios 2mile or 5mile

greggville

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i know need to get a unit with sub channels

but can you talk between parks? not sure how far the two or five mile radios really work...


thanks
 
I don't know about talking between parks. I'll just bump this back to page one and let some of our two way radio veterans give you some advice about this topic.
 
My two-mile works fine within a park (unless I am standing directly under the ball at Epcot or under the hat at MGM), but does not reach park to park.

We will be trying my sister's 5-miles in October. She said she bought them for $99 with a $20 rebate, so if you could find that deal, you should snap it up. The two-miles are usually $60 to $70 anyway.
 
The 5 mile radios require that you purchase an FCC license to operate them.
 

We have used our 2-mile radios for years and love them. The only problem we have had is within Tomorrowland, standing between Space Mountain and the track for the TTA.

Has anybody else had reception/transmitting trouble there or anywhere else?

BTW, I would strongly suggest that you have a routine when you use your radio. We always press the call button and then say, "This is ____ calling ________", then wait for their answer. I can't tell you how many times we have heard, "Mom? Are you there?" and then hear 5 women answer! We use first names only and can then ignore the other chatter. We have yet to find an empty channel at WDW so we have learned to deal with the traffic.
 
Does anyone know if the 5-mile radios operate on the same frequency codes as the shorter range models?
 
The 5-miles (GMRS) share half their channels with the 2-miles (FRS) and have half to themselves. I believe it is 1-7 on the 2-miles that is shared, but I'm not positive.

As someone else said the 5-miles require an FCC license. The license is only valid for member living in the same household. Technically if you wanted to use your sister's 5-mile radios you would need your own license. Either way don't expect the 5-miles to go between parks.

If you have a need to go between parks I would recommend Cell Phones.
 
so.... these 5mile radio sold in the big box stores.... require you getting a license

i did not know that....
 
First, let me tell you that I sell both types of radios on my website in my Midland Radio Discount Store.

There are two types of Two-Way Radios being discussed here. First are "FRS" radios. These are commonly referred to as "Two-Mile" radios. The second type is "GMRS" radios. These are the radios with a 5-mile (I also sell some with a 7-mile range - but I can't keep them in stock) range. "FRS" radios may be purchased and used by anyone - anywhere. "Technically" speaking, anyone purchasing "GMRS" radios is required to purchase a license from the FCC to use the radios. The cost if a license is $75.00, and the license is good for 5 years and covers your whole family.

I would never encourage anyone to break the rules or law, but I have sold dozens of the GMRS radios, and have yet to know anyone that has purchased a license. I personally submit no information or paperwork to anyone about who is purchasing the radios (is that diplomatic enough :D ).

As far as range goes. When you see that number - "TWO-mile", "FIVE-mile", or "SEVEN-mile", that is the MAXIMUM range you will get with the radios. This range is determined over flat ground or water. In real conditions, your range will be much less. In most conditions, you can expect the two-mile radios to be good for about 1/2 mile, and the five & seven mile radios for about a mile. I personally strongly doubt that most radios would work between parks - due to obsticles such as trees, buildings, and overall distance (remember... WDW is a big place). Theoretically, if you were standing at the top of Summit Plummet at BB, you might be able to talk to someone at MGM... but that's theory.

Now.... which radios are right for you. Well, when I went last year, I took "FRS" radios. It was just myself & my girlfriend. For us, the radios worked just fine around the parks. Often times, one of us would go to the bathroom, or maybe ride another ride while one waited. These offered plenty of range. If you are going with a large family that plans on splitting up over the park... go with the "GMRS" radios.

Another important thing to keep in mind is Batteries. You will go through a set of alkaline batteries every couple of days with these radios. Re-chargeables are a MUST!!!.

Now, on to my products. I am running out of all of my radios right now. If you check my web page above, you will see that several items are on back-order.

I currently have plenty of the 75-510XLB FRS Radios in stock. These are the two-mile radios. The ones I sell are $19.95 each and come with rechargeable batteries for this price!!!!! You may find cheaper radios out there, but this is an incredible price for radios with batteries.

As far as GMRS radios go, I only have a few of the G11-C2VP GMRS Radios in stock. I was completely out of these for a while, and once these are gone... that's it... I'm cleaning out the last that Midland has. This package is an INCREDIBLE deal. I sell a two-pack of the radios, along with rechargeable batteries, and a dual-desktop charger for $79.95. You will not find GMRS radios at this price that include rechargeable batteries & a dual charger (why is a dual charger important??? Well - remember that if you have 4 radios & 4 charging units - you need 4 plugs. Most radios have those large square plugs, so you can usually only fit one per outlet. So, you are stuck lugging a power strip with you wherever you want to charge the radios). Anyway.... this is an incredible deal for these radios.

To answer the question on frequencies. All of these radios share common frequencies. The FRS radios are all on the same 14 channels. The GMRS radios will access all of the FRS frequencies - plus add an additional 15 channels. All of the radios I sell come with CTTS sub-codes. This is important because at a place like WDW, you will definately find other folks on the same frequency. So for example - with cheaper radios, you may be on channel 10 along with 30 other people. With the CTTS programed, you could be on channel 10, sub-channel 18. So, you are much more likely to find your own frequency. Also, with these radios, you can have an unlimited number of radios sharing the same frequency. I have sold as many as 20 of the FRS radios to one person (had a boy scout group) for use during events. So, if you have a large family, get enough radios for everyone. And, if "mom & dad" have some GMRS radios, they could talk to the kids on the FRS radios.

I really hope to be adding more radios soon. As I said, with recent events - everyone wants these radios for security around the house & in public.

A quick word about myself and how I'm able to sell the radios so cheap. First, my girlfriend works at Midland Radio. They are located here in Kansas City. Basically what happens is that they usually sell large quantities of radios (in the thousands) to distributors - who in turn sell to smaller stores who only need a few. Since they sell in such quantity, they are sometimes left with small amounts of radios that are smaller than any company wants to buy (Walmart wouldn't buy 23 radios from the - but they would buy 23,000). So, they let me sell from these "extra's". All of the radios come straight from Midland, and have the full manufacturers warranty in effect. I use the proceeds of the sale of the radios to help support my website. It is not currently a money-making venture for me. I have a small "hobby" site that has turned into one of the largest Law Enforcement websites on the internet. It has become outrageously expensive to run - so I sell stuff to support it. In other words.... if you ever have a problem or need assistance, it will be me answering your e-mail.... not some nameless person.
 
Okay, the batteries in that 2 mile radio are rechargeable. What kind of charger do I use? I know I sound dumb because I am. LOL.
 
With the FRS radios I sell, there is an AC cord that plugs directly into the side of the radio. This makes for "in-unit" charging for the batteries. So, in other words, you don't have to take the batteries out to charge them, you just have to bring the charging cord with you & find an outlet. Now, keep in mind that the cord has one of those big plugs on the end (The DC Converter), so with most wall outlets, you can only charge one radio at a time.

Here is a picture of everything each radio comes with:
75-510XLB.jpg


If you get some of these, I recommend you get one of those power strips (the cord with 6 plugs on it), so you can charge all of your radios in one outlet.

With the GMRS radios, there is a desk-top charging unit that holds two of the radios. This picture shows one of the radios sitting in the charging unit. Where you see the batteries sitting is where the other radio would sit:
G11C2VP.jpg
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I should also mention, that after I posted earlier, I called up to Midland to see if any of the stuff that was out of stock was back in the warehouse. It looks like the M-222 7-Mile GMRS Radios are back in stock. These radios feature some of the newer technology - stretching the maximum range from 5 miles to 7 miles. These radios DO NOT come with rechargeable batteries. These are great radios, but in my opinion (and I have sold a lot of the M-222's), you would be much better off to go with the G-11C2VP because the batteries & charger are included.
 
I would never encourage anyone to break the rules or law, but I have sold dozens of the GMRS radios, and have yet to know anyone that has purchased a license.

The reason for the liscence is so that users are made aware of certain guidelines with regard to where you can and can't use the GMRS frequencies. For example, these are not to be used near the canadian border because of potential interference problems. i purchased Motorola's TALKABOUT® T5820 model with rechargeable cradle. After rebates my final cost was $79.00 for the pair. I did not know going in that they required an FCC liscence, buy ended up applying for one on-line once I realized the code. The instruction manual does help you with website information for registration, and the site is secured for on-line payment. You can use the non-GMRS channels without a liscence, but if you plan on using one of the 7 GMRS channels this is what the govt requires. The other thing that I found to be a bit troubling were the warnings in the manual with regard to exposure to electromagnetic radiation. It seems that the GMRS channels, because they operate on a stronger frequency, emit more ER than their FRS counterparts. The recommendation is that you keep the antenna at least one inch away from your body when in use. Now how many times have you seen folks holding these radions right up to their faces with out much of a buffer zone? I've done it myself without realizing the potential harm. Also, persons with pacemakers need to keep the antenna at least 6 inches away from their body. In hindsight, and after reading over some of these safety precautions, i think I probably should have stuck with the FRS model.
 
does not work.. we used 5-mile radios in march and sometimes it is even hard to get a decent connection within one park.. depending on your location or when you are inside a building !
Be aware you might not be the only person using these radios, so you might have to change frequencies from time to time or stand other people`s chatting :-)
Stephan
 


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