TWO of THE NEW DCL SHIPS WILL BE HOMEPORTED IN PORT CANAVERAL

[FigmentSpark]

Why wouldn't they have one ship on the West Coast? Not Alaska, but Mexico-L.A.? They could feed into DL.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Why wouldn't they have one ship on the West Coast? Not Alaska, but Mexico-L.A.? They could feed into DL.

They may give it a try. But, the theory (in the past) was they couldn't fill the ship consistently if it was home ported on the west coast. Plus DCL cruises out of San Diego, not all that convenient to Disneyland.

 

[sky13]

Asia makes too much sense given the fact of Shanghai Disney Resort, Hong Kong Disneyland, and Tokyo Disney all being located there. Ship could be based out of Singapore and cover Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, China, maybe even a trek out as far to Hawaii.

Again all speculation

If they ever did a sailing out of Singapore I would be incredibly happy - always wanted to go on a DCL cruise but can't justify flying halfway across the world to go on one! (I live in Singapore...)

 

[vacationer1954]

Why wouldn't they have one ship on the West Coast?

There's a big difference between cruising from Florida and cruising from California in winter just with regard to the number of options. There aren't a bunch of islands around a huge sea off the Pacific coast, as there is off the coast of Florida. Also, what is available a few days cruise from California isn't necessarily resoundingly safe. Baja California Sur, where Cabo is, is under Level 2 warnings from the State Department. Jalisco, where Puerto Vallarta is, and Nayarit are at Level 3. Sinaloa, including Mazatlan, Guerrero, and Colima are at Level 4. There are a few unsafe ports in the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean, but there are many ports there there that are under no safety warnings whatsoever. In addition, building up a Pacific cruising industry like the one in the Caribbean would call for some private islands - the cruise lines make a lot of money visiting their own private islands. None of the cruise lines have private islands accessible from California. That's probably because there aren't many options, whatever could be found would be incredibly expensive, and they couldn't get much out of an investment like that.

 

[mmouse37]

You have to imagine that DCL won't keep a 7 ship fleet forever, I mean Magic and Wonder have to eventually retire around the 30 year mark which seems to be standard on other cruise lines

We have been cruising with DCL since Day 1. Even before the Maiden Voyage there was talk of a DCL wanting a fleet of 10 ships. I worked for a huge travel company the year before the Magic came out and we always got all the press releases and other information. Of course they could have changed their plan but 10 ships was what they had planned for long term.

I don't think the Magic/Wonder will go anywhere once the new ships arrive....I think they have quite a few years left in them. I would love to see them docked somewhere as a hotel once they are no longer able to "cruise".

MJ

 

[mmouse37]

I'm so glad you posted this. My husband told me about it, and then he couldn't find the article.

My guess - the Dream & Fantasy will head to Miami after the new ships are in service.

The DIS has it now posted too.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-cruise-line-may-be-expanding-its-presence-in-miami/

MJ

 

[ScooterScott44]

They may give it a try. But, the theory (in the past) was they couldn't fill the ship consistently if it was home ported on the west coast. Plus DCL cruises out of San Diego, not all that convenient to Disneyland.

Currently that is true but at one time they used Long Beach. We combo’ed a DL stay with a boarding there and it worked out very well.

Sure there are lots of logistics but when they get to 7 ships having something based over there makes sense, or at least a year round presence by rotating different ships. If they are making a DCL specific terminal in Miami they could also do one west coast but that seems less likely with the Miami news. (But who knows, if the new hotel in Anaheim is truly a dead project that capital could be routed into that.)

 

[ajlsjl]

I wonder if this means the Dream or Fantasy will be moved elsewhere? When the Dream/Fantasy came online, the Magic and Wonder were moved out of Port Canaveral. I wonder if the same plan is in place for when the three new ships come online. Just a curious thought.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I wonder if this means the Dream or Fantasy will be moved elsewhere? When the Dream/Fantasy came online, the Magic and Wonder were moved out of Port Canaveral. I wonder if the same plan is in place for when the three new ships come online. Just a curious thought.

As I speculated before, I think the Dream & Fantasy may be moved to Miami (if the new terminal thing happens). That would leave them still available for Bahamas, Eastern & Western Caribbean cruises. As well as a slightly better position for Southern Caribbeans, and, possibly, partial Panama Canal cruises.

 

[RedSox68]

As I speculated before, I think the Dream & Fantasy may be moved to Miami (if the new terminal thing happens). That would leave them still available for Bahamas, Eastern & Western Caribbean cruises. As well as a slightly better position for Southern Caribbeans, and, possibly, partial Panama Canal cruises.

Just love the idea of partial Panama Canal cruises! And longer Southern Caribbean would be great. So many lines now do alternate 10 and 11 night cruises.

 

[disneymagicgirl]

Just love the idea of partial Panama Canal cruises! And longer Southern Caribbean would be great. So many lines now do alternate 10 and 11 night cruises.

I am dying to do a southern but they seem to fall in the middle of travel hockey season or summer (too$$). Hopefully porting in Miami will give us an opportunity.

 

[Shanti]

I would love for them to offer more Southern Caribbean cruises. Right now they only offer a few, and most of those are on the Wonder, our least favorite ship (no big waterslide).

If they could open another private island, that would be awesome, as well.

 

[RedSox68]

I would like more sailings out of the U.S. -- be it PC, Miami, west coast, NYC, Baltimore, rather than sailings out of San Juan because it costs so much to fly there.

 

[CM Dad]

I would like more sailings out of the U.S. -- be it PC, Miami, west coast, NYC, Baltimore, rather than sailings out of San Juan because it costs so much to fly there.

Baltimore would be great for us, since we live near DC. We are actually doing a cruise out of San Juan in January because it is a different port/itinerary than we've done before. My wife and I have done several of the non-US based cruises, and if DCL offers new itineraries from new locations we would go on those assuming the times line up with when we can take vacation.

 

[KashasMom]

I like the NYC, looking forward to our trip in Oct. I think there is room for growth in the Northeast, including NYC & Boston as ports to ship out of. We zeroed in on this cruise as we don't have to fly, that is saving us a ton for a family of 5.

They are literally missing the boat on the NYC cruises! They MUST sail during the summer. Many people/families cannot travel in Oct/Nov!

 

[Corfam]

Based off the statements by PC Port Authority on multiple occasions, it certainly seems that DCL's next ship is due to be delivered to Disney in December 2021, with first sailings in January 2022. This would mirror Dream schedule, only shifted 11 years later. The Dream's keel was laid in August 2009, so we are still about two years away from ship construction starting...~ August 2020. Ugh...it's taking so long. Makes me wonder why they announced plan back in March 2016. It seems like there was a delay at some point. Probably the original plan was to have inaugural sailing in early 2021 instead of early 2022.

 

[Dug720]

I would like more sailings out of the U.S. -- be it PC, Miami, west coast, NYC, Baltimore, rather than sailings out of San Juan because it costs so much to fly there.

Just as a point of clarification... the Continental US. San Juan, PR is part of the US - just not the Continental US.

 

[southerngirl528]

It is the agreement that DCL has had with the port. All new ships have and will be there for 3 years.

IF this is true, it wouldn't mean the current 4 ships have to stay in PC for home port though.

I'm so glad you posted this. My husband told me about it, and then he couldn't find the article.

I saw the article today somewhere and pretty sure I saw it again on the www.disneycruiselineblog.com

 

[RedSox68]

Just as a point of clarification... the Continental US. San Juan, PR is part of the US - just not the Continental US.

I thought that's what I said -- about flying out of the main 48 -- and flying to San Juan which is out of the states was costly, but thanks for the clarification.

 

[southerngirl528]

There's a big difference between cruising from Florida and cruising from California in winter just with regard to the number of options. There aren't a bunch of islands around a huge sea off the Pacific coast, as there is off the coast of Florida. Also, what is available a few days cruise from California isn't necessarily resoundingly safe. Baja California Sur, where Cabo is, is under Level 2 warnings from the State Department. Jalisco, where Puerto Vallarta is, and Nayarit are at Level 3. Sinaloa, including Mazatlan, Guerrero, and Colima are at Level 4. There are a few unsafe ports in the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean, but there are many ports there there that are under no safety warnings whatsoever. In addition, building up a Pacific cruising industry like the one in the Caribbean would call for some private islands - the cruise lines make a lot of money visiting their own private islands. None of the cruise lines have private islands accessible from California. That's probably because there aren't many options, whatever could be found would be incredibly expensive, and they couldn't get much out of an investment like that.

Excellent points re: west coast cruises. Thanks!