TSMM - Rant

[cypressmom]

I just wanted to note that as much as we adored TSMM, I loathed it more than any ride in DL and DCA. I was appalled at the number of people who would cut the line. We saw everything from a group of 8 saying "Excuse me" as they worked their way past everyone to their ONE friend waiting in the front of the line, to a group hopping over the railing to join their friends about halfway through the line. There is one section where groups would wait and simply drop the chain to join their group or solo person waiting in line. It was terrible. I think that DCA needs to have CMs watch the line. I hated having to explain to my children why they had to wait 45-50 minutes in line while watching people breeze through and cut everyone in line.

 

[Funball]

CYPRESSMOM, you have a reason to be angry. something like that is just so rude and arrogant! people don't think about the actions toward other people! and the line for TSMM is bad as it is!! it's not fair i know. i have seen it too! they do not have enough CM watcing the line, they should but they don't. i agree with you 100%. maybe put a security gaurd would be nice, also i think you should write disneyland a email and let them know what happend!! that is uncalled for in soo many ways what those people did.

 

[cypressmom]

I think a security guard would be great, especially where the chain was being dropped. I know that sometimes people need to join their group, and I have to problem with one or even two, but when it's obvious people are bucking the system, it sucks. Not sure why it was such an issue with this one ride...

 

[specialks]

I agree this is bad but as a mother one thing that happened with us was I had to take my girls to the bathroom while my DH and DM waited in line. Then we came back and met up with them just by the inside building with the posters. Kid's bladders don't always run on our same schedules.

 

[Funball]

i remember your post on that.. it was for a tour right? and u missed the whole tour becuase one person thought you were cutting but that is a different sitaution these people were deff. bucking the system.. and its an issue with all the rides at disneyland and DCA. not just that one.

 

[andymattmom]

Everyone should get in line at once....no cuts for no reason. I am sorry before getting in what appears to be a LONG line take the kids to the bathroom. Simple as that. We have been to Disneyland and Disney World over 10 times since our kids were 3 and 5. NEVER once did we cut in line or leave line because of the potty issue. Kids need to learn that cutting is wrong and not fair. it is not fair for one child to learn to go potty before mom and dad wait in line with them while another can have mom and dad hold place in line, the other parent take potty and in some cases get them a treat and then join them in line. Thankfully last month we didn't experience cutting in line but I do say something when people cut. It is not fair for any reason. Yes, I can understand an extreme potty emergency....but don't make it a habit. Ask children before getting in a long line if they need to go...if they haven't gone in a long time make them try especially if they have been drinking lots.

Sorry that is my view on this....kids need to learn and I agree the Disneyland line is terrible for cutting. We got in line right when ride opened and saw LOTS and LOTS of cutting because of the mad rush of people getting in line and then party not keeping up and "catching up halfway thru line".

Guess my rant would be people not keeping up in line...leaving huge space cause they are turned around talking. Kids walking on rails, licking them, sitting on them, etc.

 

[Mcky36]

Everyone should get in line at once....no cuts for no reason. I am sorry before getting in what appears to be a LONG line take the kids to the bathroom. Simple as that.
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In a perfect world, this may work. But in the real world, it's not "simple as that." Sometimes my 3 and 5year olds don't realize they have to go to the potty until it is more urgent. If we've already waited 30 minutes in a 45 minute line, I see no problem with my husband and daughter continuing to wait while we make a quit dash to the potty and then join them again. I do not consider this to be line cutting, at all. Every parent has experienced the situation where you take the 3 year old to the potty and nothing comes out, only to have them tell you 15 minutes later they have to go......now!

 

[jory29]

In a perfect world, this may work. But in the real world, it's not "simple as that." Sometimes my 3 and 5year olds don't realize they have to go to the potty until it is more urgent. If we've already waited 30 minutes in a 45 minute line, I see no problem with my husband and daughter continuing to wait while we make a quit dash to the potty and then join them again. I do not consider this to be line cutting, at all. Every parent has experienced the situation where you take the 3 year old to the potty and nothing comes out, only to have them tell you 15 minutes later they have to go......now!

I hear you... In my case where I had to cut out of the line at the Jungle Cruise for myself to use the washroom, (Crohn's Disease) - I cut out and opted not to go back to the ride, allowing my husband to take the kids since I would be too embarrassed to try to get back in line. Personally, I have no problem with parents taking their kids to the washroom and returning to their spot. I just don't have the guts to do that with my family as I know it can really irk others.

I can't stand when people don't know their own 'space' in the que, always bumping into you and making me feel panicky, like I can't breathe. (Claustrophobic feeling!) Blech!

Kids walking on rails, licking them, sitting on them, etc.

YES!! The mouths on the rails, and the picking of the noses is another gross factor.

 

[Disneylanding]

I'm still trying to figure out what TSMM is short for...

What really annoys me is the group of 2 teenagers waiting in line, answer their cell phone tell the 8-10 teenagers on the other line of the phone (that JUST came off Indiana Jones) where exactly in line they are at Big Thunder Mountain and those 8-10 kids weeze their way up to the front because they are NOW 'with' the group of 2.

 

[cypressmom]

My kids are 4 and 6 and we stopped at almost every restroom we saw to avoid having to go when in line. We were there 5 days and on one occassion, we were first in line to board Nemo when my 4 year old starting doing the pee-pee dance and said he couldn't hold it. The CM told me to bring him while my husband and daugter waited off to the side and we were then allowed to enter through the exit. Had we been in the middle of the line, I would not have cut back in.

At Sea World in San Antonio there are signs at all the rides that read, "If you cut in line you will be removed from the park without a refund". I think that Disney should adopt the same policy.

 

[720L]

Unfortunately, this was rampant at DL & DCA when we were there last week. One thing I didn't like about DL. It doesn't happen very often at WDW.

 

[Funball]

eww line licking.. thats gross. i have seen that also and the sitting on the rails.. ok like let them do it. cause in the end if they fall an get hurt then maybe they will learn not to do it again..it be more like a "i told you not to do that and look what happend" moment!

4 an 5 an 3 an 2 can't control there peepee urges

 

[RweTHEREyet]

Unfortunately, this was rampant at DL & DCA when we were there last week. One thing I didn't like about DL. It doesn't happen very often at WDW.

You obviously have not been there when the hordes of South Americans are there and they put one or two in line and then are joined by 30-40 of their closest friends.

I don't think WDW has the teenager issues, but the South Americans more than make up for it. If we enter a park and see lots of their groups (led by a leader carrying a flag) we usually head to another park for the day.

 

[Funball]

i see that all the time with the orential groups , same white flag and all, they even get there own tram!!!!!

 

[3BoysRDisneyFreaks]

We had potty issues every day during our week long stay with the 4 year old. He would go before we got in line and then towards the end he would have to go. I think a lot of it was the excitement of going on the ride. At TSMM we waited over 45 minutes in line (included breakdown time) and at the end DS had to go. We asked at the end of the line if we could skip out and return up the ramp and ride and they let us. The rest of my party waited in the 'potty box'...there were about 3 families waiting...while I ran DS to the bathroom and we then could ride together.

It happens.

I don't agree with a whole group joining at the end while 1 person waited.

 

[DaisyLuvr]

I agree and I think TSMM is one of the worst line jumped (is that a word?) rides in the whole resort. I was with my cousin yesterday and we patiently played war with a deck of cards while we waited and moved slowly but surely along and just before the area where you pick up the 3D glasses there was a man with I kid you not, 25 pairs of glasses in his hands. He made a phone call and within 10 minutes his entire family reunion party came barging through to waltz up to the front of the line. We were about 10 people behind him. There were lots of grones and frusteration! And it's even worse that the CM's watched it happen.
Now I understand that sometimes a parent has to jump out of line with a small child to potty when you are in a long line or one or two people jump out to grab a water and then come back. But it's not cool to have one person wait while the rest get to breeze their way onto the ride when we all had to wait.
Just one persons opinion!

 

[nana50]

i see that all the time with the orential groups , same white flag and all, they even get there own tram!!!!!

"Things" are Oriental, people are Asians.

This is how I feel about people holding spots for parades. It is the same thing. It is rude and not fair to people who either have waited in the line, or waited on a spot for a parade.

 

[nana50]

i see that all the time with the orential groups , same white flag and all, they even get there own tram!!!!!

"Things" are Oriental, people are Asians.

This is how I feel about people holding spots for parades. It is the same thing. It is rude and not fair to people who either have waited in the line, or waited on a spot for a parade.

 

[bumbershoot]

Not sure why it was such an issue with this one ride...

Because so much of the queue is open. It's much much easier to do it than, say, Peter Pan.

I'm still trying to figure out what TSMM is short for...

Toy Story Midway Mania.

It doesn't happen very often at WDW.

Oh, the people who post on long threads about the various ways and reasons to line-cut over on the Theme Parks board would likely disagree with you....



That part of the line where you can open the chain is both nice and not nice, depending on who is using it and why. If you get to that part and someone in your group has to use the bathroom like crazy, it's convenient. If people you don't know are using it for reasons you feel are wrong, it's not nice. I once was all twitchy about a big group of people that I felt were cutting b/c I didn't remember seeing them....then I saw them meet up with their group, and their group was HUGE (so half of their group was pretty big too) and then remembered that I did indeed see them all in line before...and then I felt really bad for thinking badly about them.

And I have a love hate relationship with that particular amount of chainlink... We got to that point and the line slowed way down, DS started messing with the chain which we don't allow but just as I said to stop it, he kind of fell, and hit his mouth hard on the links...cut the frenulum between top gums and upper lip, bled like crazy, hurt like crazy...I was GLAD that I could just unhook it and step out to clean it. DH stood right there, waiting, did NOT advance in line, just kept letting people in front of him. (which is the way to do it, in our opinion)

We got back, again through the helpful link, DS with a swollen upper lip...and we continued the ride.

And then we hate that section of chain b/c someone with a case of the nasties must have been touching/licking/whatevering the chain, b/c the next day DS started getting pretty sick, and when we got home he tested positive for strep. So we hate that chain! But DS certainly learned to not put his mouth on it after that! Even accidentally.



And my last thought about it all....if you're in line and someone has to "go", just talk to the CM!!! That happened with us once right in the thick of the Casey Jr line where you just can't get in or out easily unless you and those around you are very thin. We had DS hold it until we got up to the front of the line, and the CM pointed us to the exit, and then told us to come right back *to the exit*, and they would let us right in! We actually declined to do that, b/c the line was much shorter after the bathroom break, so we just got back in line, but it was super-nice for her to do that, and just goes to show taht if you do have a problem, the CMs are willing to help you!

 

[bumbershoot]

"Things" are Oriental, people are Asians.

It's a good way to put it. Now if only my husband, who IS Asian, would stop referring to himself as Oriental! But eh, as he says, he gets to call himself whatever he wants. Oh well. His mom says "oriental" too, when referring to her fellow Koreans.