TSM standby-less test Oct. 6-9

[DisUniversal]

Ah, so now the point has changed?

Nope

 

[FLchick415]

Letting someone who WANTS the FPs have them would be two less people who might complain to guest services about how stupid it is to eliminate standby as an option so the answer is no and no...unless of course I see that cancelling the two tomorrow morning will allow me to reserve 5.

If you think there aren't already going to be loads of people complaining, I have a bridge to sell you. You're not being heroic. You're not "sticking it to the man". You're being childish.

 

[cakebaker]

Nope

Then why book tomorrow's fp's? If as you said:

The point is not to make reservations in days in advance. It's to do it the same day as they appear to release a different pool of FP+ slots in the morning to reflect the extra capacity of there being no standby line.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

Letting someone who WANTS the FPs have them would be two less people who might complain to guest services about how stupid it is to eliminate standby as an option so the answer is no and no...unless of course I see that cancelling the two tomorrow morning will allow me to reserve 5.

Well, when you put it that way, it doesn't sound petty and spiteful at all.

 

[Mkrop]

But have they truly failed? By OUR standard, they have been abysmal failures of monumental proportions. But that assumes that Disney's desired outcome (i.e., what they are testing) is the same as ours. I submit that they are NOT and that despite the epic disasters that guests are experiencing, the results being reported back to the decision makers are that the tests have all been a smashing success. And depending on what they were trying to accomplish, that could be quite true.

well if there cash receipts are on up souveniors and food items bc people went and spent money in the shops and food stands instead of standing in line, they will think this is a smashing success.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

All this back n forth on who sees what as available makes me wonder if we all see the same thing. Oh...family A always stays deluxe....they can have many options for available times. Family B is 2nd class and stays offsite so "no soup for you".

 

[DisUniversal]

Then why book tomorrow's fp's? If as you said:

because it was just as easy to click the button to 'save' the reservation as it was to 'cancel' it.

 

[Gabriel&Nana]

All this back n forth on who sees what as available makes me wonder if we all see the same thing. Oh...family A always stays deluxe....they can have many options for available times. Family B is 2nd class and stays offsite so "no soup for you".

 

[cakebaker]

because it was just as easy to click the button to 'save' the reservation as it was to 'cancel' it.

You're making no sense at all-

First you claim the fp's are all gone. No, they weren't.

Oh, well let's change the reasoning to explain availability you claim wasn't there: You don't WANT to book out of the available pool. Somehow Disney has a magic wand that makes the day of release fp's special - dare I say...magical! that makes you want to only reserve sdfp's. Wouldn't make sense to book ahead. OKAY...

Ah, but now you go ahead and throw out the whole point of your exercise in futility..and why??...it's easier.

Sure it is.

 

[wareagle57]

because it was just as easy to click the button to 'save' the reservation as it was to 'cancel' it.

You aren't sticking it to Disney, all you're doing is making someone else's trip worse. You are being a jerk. What you are doing is worse than what Disney is doing by testing this.

 

[cakebaker]

All this back n forth on who sees what as available makes me wonder if we all see the same thing. Oh...family A always stays deluxe....they can have many options for available times. Family B is 2nd class and stays offsite so "no soup for you".

Or someone isn't telling the truth. The slight differences you saw between a few people was most likely due to an unknown number of people hitting the system at the same time.

I don't believe Disney has the capability to limit what fp availability you see.

 

[cakebaker]

You aren't sticking it to Disney, all you're doing is making someone else's trip worse. You are being a jerk. What you are doing is worse than what Disney is doing by testing this.

 

[mesaboy2]

Or someone isn't telling the truth. The slight differences you saw between a few people was most likely due to an unknown number of people hitting the system at the same time.

I don't believe Disney has the capability to limit what fp availability you see.

I would love to know for certain the answer to this.

 

[RnbwSktles]

I believe that this test is not being implemented by Disney to see if it is possible at one point remove stand-by lines completely, but more as a way to gauge how many Fastpass+ they can release for the ride down the road. Soundstage 1 right next to TSMM just became a construction zone as of today, and going in that spot is heavily rumored to be a 3rd track for TSMM, which will be most likely Fastpass+ only.

Having the 3rd track be Fastpass+ only, means the original tracks there now would be stand-by only. So if the rumors are true, stand-by lines for TSMM at least would not be going away anytime soon. Why build 3 tracks and have them all be Fastpass+?

If this is really the case, then I get it. It just sucks for those who were not prepared for the test. If this tests allows Disney to make the line smaller in the future, then it's worth it. No pain, no gain

 

[faneuil]

All this back n forth on who sees what as available makes me wonder if we all see the same thing. Oh...family A always stays deluxe....they can have many options for available times. Family B is 2nd class and stays offsite so "no soup for you".

I think many ppl mentioned this when FP+ first started, but it wouldn't surprise me if in the future, Deluxe resort guests get more FP+ per day than value resort, and so forth and so on.

Few weeks ago, my mom and I decided to eat in the MK. Very last minute. Nothing popped up for me. She got the Palace (which is what we wanted). We were sitting there, talking about it, when it occurred to us she usually makes all the dining ressie, while I usually handle FP+. It would certainly be interesting to know if the system is that sophisticated to know things like that.

I also wonder, out of morbid curiosity, how many day of, walk up, ticket sales there are. and...how many of those ppl understand they then should probably get in a kiosk line to get FP+?

 

[practicallyperfect77]

I would love to know for certain the answer to this.

Honestly the truth is we will probably never know. They might but Disney can always go back and say "well in that split second some other group must have cancelled their FPs and that is why one group saw them and one didn't".

 

[practicallyperfect77]

I think many ppl mentioned this when FP+ first started, but it wouldn't surprise me if in the future, Deluxe resort guests get more FP+ per day than value resort, and so forth and so on.

Few weeks ago, my mom and I decided to eat in the MK. Very last minute. Nothing popped up for me. She got the Palace (which is what we wanted). We were sitting there, talking about it, when it occurred to us she usually makes all the dining ressie, while I usually handle FP+. It would certainly be interesting to know if the system is that sophisticated to know things like that.

I also wonder, out of morbid curiosity, how many day of, walk up, ticket sales there are. and...how many of those ppl understand they then should probably get in a kiosk line to get FP+?

Quite interesting what.happened for you and your mom. I know I tried to synch up cancelling my chef Mickey's ADR so someone else could get it. We were on the phone talking and she was.only.able to get 4 of my.6 seats. Crazy cray.

 

[mesaboy2]

Honestly the truth is we will probably never know. They might but Disney can always go back and say "well in that split second some other group must have cancelled their FPs and that is why one group saw them and one didn't".

Agreed. Doesn't mean I don't want to know though.

I think, if their IT department was up to the task, Disney would love to have that level of granular control.

 

[wareagle57]

If this is really the case, then I get it. It just sucks for those who were not prepared for the test. If this tests allows Disney to make the line smaller in the future, then it's worth it. No pain, no gain

If this happens, could it mean the end of tiers at DHS? Seems there would be more than enough TSMM FPs to go around and the standby line would move pretty quickly, so the demand for the FP might not even be that high. R'n'R would become the tough one to get, but since not everyone rides that it still wouldn't be that bad.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

And.honestly if Disney wants to go down that.route...fine by me. But be open and transparent about it. The secrecy of everything is what.drives me.the most nuts.