TSM standby-less test Oct. 6-9

[mesaboy2]

I haven't read the whole thread but I thought I would share our experience this morning. we had a FP for the 9:35 slot. We didn't know about the test until we got there. We walked through a completely empty line and boarded immediately. Looked like most of the cars were running empty.

We inquired afterwards about a DAS return time and were told they were not giving out any DAS return times.

Thanks for reporting your experience.

 

[DisUniversal]

What a psychic! You come up with that before or after seeing when they ran out today? Amazing that your prediction pretty much matches when they ran out today....And now you want to claim credit for running them out of fp's?

They're going to run out around that time of day with or without your five fp's.

Again, you miss the point entirely. My reserving 5 FP+ slots in the morning has VERY little to do with them running out of FP+ slots...it might make the difference between them running out at 12:20:30pm and them running out 10 seconds earlier 12:20:20pm. What it does do however is pretty much ensure that there will be 5 guests unable to ride TSMM because of the 5 reservations I hold. Hopefully those 5 guests will complain to guest services.

 

[cakebaker]

Why? If they are distinguishing between ticket types, offsite/onsite...why couldn't they do the same based on which tier resort you are in? Not saying they are doing this, but I definitely think they could.

I'm no programmer so I really have no idea. Seems on the face of it though, limiting the window in which you can book a fp+, would be much easier than limiting what particular fp's you can see based on what resort you are staying at.

But again, I have no idea and I don't think anyone does. At least not yet.

 

[magicbob]

I haven't read the whole thread but I thought I would share our experience this morning. we had a FP for the 9:35 slot. We didn't know about the test until we got there. We walked through a completely empty line and boarded immediately. Looked like most of the cars were running empty.
We inquired afterwards about a DAS return time and were told they were not giving out any DAS return times.

By limiting the number of people allowed to get in line, they can ensure that those few who DO get to ride have no wait. All that's missing from the equation is someone at the exit taking a push poll to support the conclusion that this system results in happier guests who didn't have to wait in line. Just make sure you don't accidentally include any of the guests who were turned away altogether in your poll sample.

DisUniversal, you don't need to take away FP+ from 5 more people. Disney is doing a perfectly fine job of screwing the guests over without your assistance.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

I've been waiting for this to happen personally. Is it really fair that a family spending $1100/night for a suite at the Poly can't book FP for A&E but someone staying in a tent at FW got theirs? Surely not...

Maybe the park tickets should be cheaper for those staying in a tent site then also. I'm sure the extra money it cost to stay at the Poly in no way covers the extra perks of the Poly.

On a side note. No matter what Disney does with FP+, our family wouldn't stay in a deluxe Disney resort. The cost are just crazy for them. I believe that would be true for the biggest portion of Disney's daily guest.

 

[FLchick415]

Again, you miss the point entirely. My reserving 5 FP+ slots in the morning has VERY little to do with them running out of FP+ slots...it might make the difference between them running out at 12:20:30pm and them running out 10 seconds earlier 12:20:20pm. What it does do however is pretty much ensure that there will be 5 guests unable to ride TSMM because of the 5 reservations I hold. Hopefully those 5 guests will complain to guest services.

So you're willing to ruin someone else's day (and seem quite proud of doing so, I might add) just so you can "stick it" to Disney? Nice.

 

[mesaboy2]

I'm no programmer so I really have no idea. Seems on the face of it though, limiting the window in which you can book a fp+, would be much easier than limiting what particular fp's you can see based on what resort you are staying at.

But again, I have no idea and I don't think anyone does. At least not yet.

The capability would be very easy to implement.

I have tons of Excel files that, with the press of a button, filter my visible records to whatever values I choose.

 

[cakebaker]

Again, you miss the point entirely. My reserving 5 FP+ slots in the morning has VERY little to do with them running out of FP+ slots...it might make the difference between them running out at 12:20:30pm and them running out 10 seconds earlier 12:20:20pm. What it does do however is pretty much ensure that there will be 5 guests unable to ride TSMM because of the 5 reservations I hold. Hopefully those 5 guests will complain to guest services.

Oh good for you, you have guaranteed that 5 guests won't be able to ride- not because of Disney, because of YOU.

That you think you're actually influencing the results of their testing borders on insanity.

Not that I actually believe your bs, because I don't. Your story has changed way too much.

And now I'm done with talking to you. This has become tedious.

 

[kidsgobears]

I've been waiting for this to happen personally. Is it really fair that a family spending $1100/night for a suite at the Poly can't book FP for A&E but someone staying in a tent at FW got theirs? Surely not...

Perfectly fair. One is paying for a more expensive room and resort experience and the other is paying for a cheaper room and resort experience. Both have paid the same price for their park tickets and should expect the same experience in the parks.

 

[cakebaker]

The capability would be very easy to implement.

I have tons of Excel files that, with the press of a button, filter my visible records to whatever values I choose.

I have done great damage to my computer and files with the simple touch of the keyboard.

I just haven't seen anything that convinces me they've done it...yet. If you say they could easily, I'll take your word for it. God knows, I have no business talking computer programming. Too many windows open at one time and I get nervous.

 

[joelkfla]

Everyone has at least 30 days.
Unless you buy a ticket at the gate day of.

Cm's only get 7 days, and only on their limited number of comp tickets; still no advance FP+ at all on MEP's. Unless the comp tickets are linked to a resort reservation.

But then, cm's are not paying for admission, so some may think that's fair.

 

[mesaboy2]

I have done great damage to my computer and files with the simple touch of the keyboard.

I just haven't seen anything that convinces me they've done it...yet. If you say they could easily, I'll take your word for it. God knows, I have no business talking computer programming. Too many windows open at one time and I get nervous.

You're talking to a computer scientist.

Nothing convinces me either, but I have been suspicious of it for many moons and have been watching with interest.

 

[mom2rtk]

By limiting the number of people allowed to get in line, they can ensure that those few who DO get to ride have no wait. All that's missing from the equation is someone at the exit taking a push poll to support the conclusion that this system results in happier guests who didn't have to wait in line. Just make sure you don't accidentally include any of the guests who were turned away altogether in your poll sample.

DisUniversal, you don't need to take away FP+ from 5 more people. Disney is doing a perfectly fine job of screwing the guests over without your assistance.

Yeah. I want to see the poll they conduct with guests turned away from the line this afternoon.

 

[DisUniversal]

Oh good for you, you have guaranteed that 5 guests won't be able to ride- not because of Disney, because of YOU.

That you think you're actually influencing the results of their testing borders on insanity.

Not that I actually believe your bs, because I don't. Your story has changed way too much.

And now I'm done with talking to you. This has become tedious.

Story never changed...it's a comprehension issue.

 

[cakebaker]

Perfectly fair. One is paying for a more expensive room and resort experience and the other is paying for a cheaper room and resort experience. Both have paid the same price for their park tickets and should expect the same experience in the parks.

But it already doesn't work that way.

Off site guests do not get the same park experience on site guests get. Not all resort guests get the same dining experience either. It's not a leap of faith to think that they'll extend that into Deluxe vs Moderate vs Value in regards to other things.

I don't think it has a thing to do with being "fair". It has to do with whether doing that will increase revenue without costing them in other ways. Disney is not concerned with "fair".

I can see it now...A **free** A&E fp with every 7 day or longer Deluxe stay!

 

[FlipHipster]

I'm no programmer so I really have no idea. Seems on the face of it though, limiting the window in which you can book a fp+, would be much easier than limiting what particular fp's you can see based on what resort you are staying at.

But again, I have no idea and I don't think anyone does. At least not yet.

Just a bunch of rules built around data they already have. Not saying they are doing it but they could if they wanted. Not sure what it accomplishes if you don't advertise it as a perk though.

Perfectly fair. One is paying for a more expensive room and resort experience and the other is paying for a cheaper room and resort experience. Both have paid the same price for their park tickets and should expect the same experience in the parks.

But we are staying offsite this year and we paid the same amount for our tickets as the family staying onsite but we can't book FP+ 60 days out. Different park experiences same park price.

 

[Laketravis]

No. Models aren't that good. They still need to be tested in the actual world. If models worked so perfectly, then when they implemented them it wouldn't piss so many people off!

I suppose you're right - how many people you can fit on a ride that accommodates 900 people per hour IS rocket science......

 

[DisUniversal]

So you're willing to ruin someone else's day (and seem quite proud of doing so, I might add) just so you can "stick it" to Disney? Nice.

Nobody should let one single attraction ruin their whole day. At best it may be a disappointment in an otherwise fine day...and a handful of disappointed guests may contribute to helping Disney see that this is a stupid idea.

 

[grnflash]

Story never changed...it's a comprehension issue.

I think a lot of people comprehend. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

But it already doesn't work that way.

Off site guests do not get the same park experience on site guests get. Not all resort guests get the same dining experience either. It's not a leap of faith to think that they'll extend that into Deluxe vs Moderate vs Value in regards to other things.

I don't think it has a thing to do with being "fair". It has to do with whether doing that will increase revenue without costing them in other ways. Disney is not concerned with "fair".

I agree that Disney isn't that concerned with "fair" but I believe that might be concerned with looking like they are trying to be fair. Besides, do you think there is a large portion of guest that stay in value resort have the money to stay at moderate or deluxe but decide to stay at value because they like the size of the room? Or maybe the location to the park? I think it would run the risk of turning off those that do stay in value because that is all they can afford for the small amount they would get in increased revenue from those few families that could afford to move up to a moderate resort.