Trip Notes from Sunday and Monday (2/21-2/22)

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I'm back from a special extended weekend trip from AZ with DS12 which consisted of Balboa Pier, whale watching cruise (got up close with a pack of 5 whales and a pod of leaping bottlenose dolphins!), the Lyon Air Museum, and two days at DLR.

The weather was perfect, and the parks were very comfortable--once we got inside! Day 1 we went to park in the M&F garage before opening (hadn't checked into our hotel yet), but were rerouted to the DTD parking area. That is a miserable walk to the parks, so we bailed and headed for Toy Story. I forgot that the North entrance to Toy Story is employees only, so they told me I had to park at DTD. This made me think all of Toy Story was now for employees and cast members. So I went back to DTD and paid $18 to park pretty much next to the Best Western and walk in.

Day 2 we wised up and walked into the West entrance of Toy Story and rode the shuttle in and arrived at 9:50 for a 10:00 opening. The baggage check line was backed up to Harbour Blvd, but luckily, the shuttle bus drops you off on the south side of the entry, so we just had to merge in with the much shorter left-most security line. Once through that, the gate lines for DL went back almost all the way to CA. We didn't get in the park until 10:40! I learned to NEVER COME TO DISNEYLAND ON TIME. Come 30-60 minutes early, or you may as well show up an hour late and skip all this.

Despite our tardiness, we were still able to do 22 rides each day with ample meal and rest breaks. How? Learning from awesome DISers and maximizing FP and single rider. It still floors me that so many people love standby lines. It's like they want a good story to tell later about how many hours they survived in lines at Disneyland. At 7pm, after using our RSR FP's, we went SR 2 more times with 5 minute waits while the standby wait was 70 minutes. We also did SR for Matterhorn in less than 10 minutes when the standby lines wrapped far around the mountain in the sun. DS12 ended up in the back of the first sled, and I was in the front of the second sled, so we still rode next to each other. Splash SR was no wait. It's funny when you walk through the FP lines and hear conversations like, "How are they skipping? They have Fastpasses. You have to pay extra for those." Disney has gone out of its way to make the FP program as easy to understand as possible, but I'm glad that most people still don't get it.

I finally got to try Bengal BBQ, and it did not disappoint. At first, I saw the little skewer with 3 chunks of steak on it, and I was like, "That's $1.50 per chunk." But then I put my steak skewer, bacon-asparagus skewer, and tiger tail together and thought, "That's a decent meal for $13." And that beef was so tender and delicious. I would take another buck fifty out of my wallet and start chewing on it right now if it tasted that good.

The fried chicken dinner is still the best bang for your buck in the parks, and the green beans taste amazing after a long day of mostly carbs.

The cheese stick corn dog at Corn Dog Castle is disgusting. It's not real cheese and it doesn't melt. It's a long mass of lukewarm processed cheese food with the texture of whipped butter. At least I got to eat half of my son's corn dog that he couldn't finish. I'm still mad at myself for not picking the hot link corn dog instead.

I hadn't watched WOC in a few years, and wow, it has come a long way! It was amazing (despite the overdose of Neil Patrick Harris and Frozen). All the new shows for the 60th were incredible. We came at the last minute for all of them because ride lines get really short an hour before each show, but they are worth camping out for if you have more time (more than 2 days at the parks) or are just tired of doing rides.

I know this will sound controversial, but I have come to the conclusion that DLR is not necessarily for small children. Sounds crazy. I know. But as a father of 6 (ages 4-15), I looked around at the meltdowns, the stroller graveyards, the kids randomly puking on the sidewalk, and the parents cowering in the dark corners of Disneyland trying to calm their little ones, and I thought, "Boy, am I glad I only brought one this time." I sat by a family at the breakfast room of our hotel with 2 of their 4 children already crying hysterically--and they hadn't even entered the parks yet! We went as a family six years ago, and DS12 hardly remembers any of it. He even forgot he fought Darth Maul. The same kid that made me go on Star Tours 5 times on Monday forgot he ever put on a Jedi robe! I'm sure we will do another full family trip soon. But it has been nice doing smaller trips in-between. I know the joy of watching little faces light up, and I understand that DLR is the Mecca of childhood, but if you're saving up for a once-in-a-lifetime trip, you may want to wait until your kids are in the 8-13 range. You will know the joy of touring DLR with no diapers or strollers, minimal meltdowns, and memories that will actually last. If you go often, none of this matters, because if one trip goes off the rails, there's always next time. And believe it or not, it is possible to make small children blissfully happy for a lot less money right in your own home town.

All that being said, this was a fabulous trip. No matter how you tour the parks, with a positive attitude and a little preparation, DLR is always magical.
 
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Excellent report. I agree that DLR can be overwhelming for little kids. Parents can hopefully recognize when their children are getting close to hitting their wall.

Bengall BBQ is also one of our favorites.
 
Great report. Sounds like a fab vacation! Which co did you use for whale watching? Did you book in advance? Thanks. :)
We used Davey's Locker out of Newport harbor. They (and a few other companies) are always on Groupon. I called them two days in advance to check availability before buying the Groupon, and they said they could just match the price and book us right then. Saved a step! Our captain was very knowledgeable and friendly, and I would definitely use them again. I would suggest calling at least a week in advance for busier weekends. We saw people trying to buy tickets the day of, and all times were sold out.
 

Glad you had a great trip. Man that line up to Harbor for security I have never seen before - have they enhanced the screening (other than the random metal detection) as I have noticed before it's not much more than a 'glance in your bag and off you go' type security? Good to know though, although we tend to arrive too early and my DH complains about how there was no reason to rush. He never looks back on the lines after the fact though and thanks his lucky stars for the trumpet that got him out of bed when it did.

I 100% agree about the small kids too - coming from a distance we put off going to DLR until our kids were 8 and 9 and when we see the parents with smaller ones and their strollers and all of the hassles we are very glad we did. I am sure though there is magic in between all the headaches but it's so much more work to take smaller children anywhere compared to when they are older. We'd of never braved it coming from Canada but I am sure if we'd lived closer we'd of done the same thing and taken them during the meltdown years too.
 
Glad you had a great trip. Man that line up to Harbor for security I have never seen before - have they enhanced the screening (other than the random metal detection) as I have noticed before it's not much more than a 'glance in your bag and off you go' type security?
It's still a quick glance through every pocket in your bag mixed with random metal detector walkthrough selections. For some reason, I always get randomly selected for these things wherever I go. I don't know if big, tall guys look like a threat, or if it's because I look easy going, and they know I won't give them any grief.:)

I think the late opening was the biggest contributor to the line problem. At 10:00 on a Monday, most of the people who are coming that day are going to be on time. I do remember getting in a lot faster with 8:00 starts on previous trips.
 
Great report--thanks! The whale watching sounds fun! Did that a long time ago when I was a kid living down there, but should probably take my own kid. Good tip about mentioning groupon when you call, too. Thanks!!
 
Totally agree about lines to get into the park lately - so long! It must be purposeful to stagger the entering crowds.

Totally agree about the small children observation too! My girls are 8 and 10, and we've had annual passes for three years and enjoy going now so very much - no strollers, no diapers, no special food ... just go have fun! Before having passes we would do one "big" trip a year with maybe a random one-day trip thrown in when we were visiting Southern California anyway. It's much more work for the parents to enjoy Disney when the kids are little. Once they're past all the special accommodations, EVERYONE has more fun! ;)
 
I'm back from a special extended weekend trip from AZ with DS12 which consisted of Balboa Pier, whale watching cruise (got up close with a pack of 5 whales and a pod of leaping bottlenose dolphins!), the Lyon Air Museum, and two days at DLR.
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Sounds like you guys had a great trip! My DD25 and I will be on our first trip the second week of May. Still have plenty of planning to do, lol. But, I was curious about the Whale watching you mentioned, with a coupon from Groupon. I was hoping you could share a bit more about this, if you don't mind. Your mention of this made me think of adding this on the Monday we will not be at a park. I was checking groupon and saw lots of coupons for Davy's locker after I looked around a bit. Much cheaper than I expected, but how do you know which to choose? Would you recommend the one you chose? How much of the day did this take up, and how far is it to get there, we are staying across the street from DL? Also, is there a lot of walking to this part of the day, as in getting there and all? I will have an ecv in the parks, but would not bring it if we did some whale watching, but if there's a huge amount of walking involved getting there it'd be good to have a heads up, lol. Oh, and is the boat pretty smooth or a bit rough on the stomach? Have boated on lakes plenty enough, but not sure how a ship on an ocean might be, lol. Thanks very much if you are able to share some more info on this part of your trip!
 
Sounds like you guys had a great trip! My DD25 and I will be on our first trip the second week of May. Still have plenty of planning to do, lol. But, I was curious about the Whale watching you mentioned, with a coupon from Groupon. I was hoping you could share a bit more about this, if you don't mind. Your mention of this made me think of adding this on the Monday we will not be at a park. I was checking groupon and saw lots of coupons for Davy's locker after I looked around a bit. Much cheaper than I expected, but how do you know which to choose? Would you recommend the one you chose? How much of the day did this take up, and how far is it to get there, we are staying across the street from DL? Also, is there a lot of walking to this part of the day, as in getting there and all? I will have an ecv in the parks, but would not bring it if we did some whale watching, but if there's a huge amount of walking involved getting there it'd be good to have a heads up, lol. Oh, and is the boat pretty smooth or a bit rough on the stomach? Have boated on lakes plenty enough, but not sure how a ship on an ocean might be, lol. Thanks very much if you are able to share some more info on this part of your trip!

The Groupon I used was the first one listed when searching things to do in Newport Beach. It says "Best of Groupon" across the corner. It was $22 for two adults. You will also pay 3-4 dollars per person for a portage/fuel fee when you book. I've only done this once, so I don't know if the others are any better, but I would definitely use this company again. It's located on the Balboa Peninsula, which is 30-40 min south of Disneyland (12 miles or so). You just drive down Harbor until it ends at the Harbor :) and then drive down to the second pier. We parked at the 6 hour parking at Peninsula Park (only $3.60) and walked over to Davey's 30 min before departure time. This link has a map of all the area parking: http://www.daveyslocker.com/contact-us-directions/

It looks like a long walk on the map, but those streets are super close together. In Disney terms, our walk was like the distance from the DL gates to the castle. There are lots of interesting shops and carnival rides to look at while you wait for departure. You can even get yourself cartooned by a street artist for $6. So if you wanted to go to the beach or get ice cream on a pier while in California, it can all be done from the same parking spot. There is also a ferry to Balboa Island there ($1 for you and a bike or ecv, $2? to Ferry you and your car) of you wanted to explore the island. As far as other walking involved, there was a steep ramp down to the dock area (with some incredible no-slip grip). They may have an alternate route in the building. You might want to ask over the phone. There is a little walking on the ship when they say things like "The whales are about to surface at 2 O'Clock. Everyone move to that side." But you'll always have a rail to hold while walking, and once they find animals, they will keep them in the same position with the boat for a long time.

I saw a lot of people popping motion sickness pills and handing them to their kids before the trip, but my son and I had no problems without them. So basically, if you get motion sickness with other things, take the pills ahead of time. If you don't get it on rides, you won't on this boat. It's a pretty large boat. There were a couple times when we got rocking hard and I had to hold on to a bar, but mostly a smooth trip. To compare it with your lake experience, these short bursts felt like when you're fishing in a row boat and a ski boat comes by too close and knocks you around. But the whale watching boat is quite large and stable with railings and seating all around both decks. There is also in indoor section with snack bar and restrooms.

The cruise itself finished around around two hours after the stated departure time, so add 30 min for check-in, the travel time, and anything else you want to do in the area.

Lastly (wow this post got long), the middle of May is the end of the gray whale migration and the beginning of the blue. I've heard blue are harder to find, but they're much larger if you do see one. You may see both or neither--no guarantees--but there are like 5 other rarer species that are possible. You're pretty much guaranteed to find some species of dolphins as well as seals and sea lions.
 
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I hate those cheese sticks too.

We're taking our babies. But I agree, it's not a once in a lifetime trip!
 
I'm back from a special extended weekend trip from AZ with DS12 which consisted of Balboa Pier, whale watching cruise (got up close with a pack of 5 whales and a pod of leaping bottlenose dolphins!), the Lyon Air Museum, and two days at DLR.

The weather was perfect, and the parks were very comfortable--once we got inside! Day 1 we went to park in the M&F garage before opening (hadn't checked into our hotel yet), but were rerouted to the DTD parking area. That is a miserable walk to the parks, so we bailed and headed for Toy Story. I forgot that the North entrance to Toy Story is employees only, so they told me I had to park at DTD. This made me think all of Toy Story was now for employees and cast members. So I went back to DTD and paid $18 to park pretty much next to the Best Western and walk in.

Day 2 we wised up and walked into the West entrance of Toy Story and rode the shuttle in and arrived at 9:50 for a 10:00 opening. The baggage check line was backed up to Harbour Blvd, but luckily, the shuttle bus drops you off on the south side of the entry, so we just had to merge in with the much shorter left-most security line. Once through that, the gate lines for DL went back almost all the way to CA. We didn't get in the park until 10:40! I learned to NEVER COME TO DISNEYLAND ON TIME. Come 30-60 minutes early, or you may as well show up an hour late and skip all this.

Despite our tardiness, we were still able to do 22 rides each day with ample meal and rest breaks. How? Learning from awesome DISers and maximizing FP and single rider. It still floors me that so many people love standby lines. It's like they want a good story to tell later about how many hours they survived in lines at Disneyland. At 7pm, after using our RSR FP's, we went SR 2 more times with 5 minute waits while the standby wait was 70 minutes. We also did SR for Matterhorn in less than 10 minutes when the standby lines wrapped far around the mountain in the sun. DS12 ended up in the back of the first sled, and I was in the front of the second sled, so we still rode next to each other. Splash SR was no wait. It's funny when you walk through the FP lines and hear conversations like, "How are they skipping? They have Fastpasses. You have to pay extra for those." Disney has gone out of its way to make the FP program as easy to understand as possible, but I'm glad that most people still don't get it.

I finally got to try Bengal BBQ, and it did not disappoint. At first, I saw the little skewer with 3 chunks of steak on it, and I was like, "That's $1.50 per chunk." But then I put my steak skewer, bacon-asparagus skewer, and tiger tail together and thought, "That's a decent meal for $13." And that beef was so tender and delicious. I would take another buck fifty out of my wallet and start chewing on it right now if it tasted that good.

The fried chicken dinner is still the best bang for your buck in the parks, and the green beans taste amazing after a long day of mostly carbs.

The cheese stick corn dog at Corn Dog Castle is disgusting. It's not real cheese and it doesn't melt. It's a long mass of lukewarm processed cheese food with the texture of whipped butter. At least I got to eat half of my son's corn dog that he couldn't finish. I'm still mad at myself for not picking the hot link corn dog instead.

I hadn't watched WOC in a few years, and wow, it has come a long way! It was amazing (despite the overdose of Neil Patrick Harris and Frozen). All the new shows for the 60th were incredible. We came at the last minute for all of them because ride lines get really short an hour before each show, but they are worth camping out for if you have more time (more than 2 days at the parks) or are just tired of doing rides.

I know this will sound controversial, but I have come to the conclusion that DLR is not necessarily for small children. Sounds crazy. I know. But as a father of 6 (ages 4-15), I looked around at the meltdowns, the stroller graveyards, the kids randomly puking on the sidewalk, and the parents cowering in the dark corners of Disneyland trying to calm their little ones, and I thought, "Boy, am I glad I only brought one this time." I sat by a family at the breakfast room of our hotel with 2 of their 4 children already crying hysterically--and they hadn't even entered the parks yet! We went as a family six years ago, and DS12 hardly remembers any of it. He even forgot he fought Darth Maul. The same kid that made me go on Star Tours 5 times on Monday forgot he ever put on a Jedi robe! I'm sure we will do another full family trip soon. But it has been nice doing smaller trips in-between. I know the joy of watching little faces light up, and I understand that DLR is the Mecca of childhood, but if you're saving up for a once-in-a-lifetime trip, you may want to wait until your kids are in the 8-13 range. You will know the joy of touring DLR with no diapers or strollers, minimal meltdowns, and memories that will actually last. If you go often, none of this matters, because if one trip goes off the rails, there's always next time. And believe it or not, it is possible to make small children blissfully happy for a lot less money right in your own home town.

All that being said, this was a fabulous trip. No matter how you tour the parks, with a positive attitude and a little preparation, DLR is always magical.
Thanks for that! Headed to DLR this weekend and wondered if anyone had posted a recent report.:-)
 
The Groupon I used was the first one listed when searching things to do in Newport Beach. It says "Best of Groupon" across the corner.....

Thank you very much, bakerudall! I really appreciate your response, that was perfect! Definitely just what I need to help me figure this out! It sounds really fun and exciting. I see they even have a bigger sale now, $19 for two till 3/1. Thanks for taking time to share all that info. I like knowing what to expect going into something, especially when I have no idea how things will work or where I'm going, lol. Thanks for all that detail about the area, the ship, getting there, and the info about walking around the area. That was really nice of you! Actually saved the post in my notepad, lol!
 












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