trip notes--10/9-10/16 Western

KLDESQ

Earning My Ears
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We just returned from our recent Western swing and thought I'd offer some observations: (in no particular order or importance)
We are a family of four, 2 kids (I hate the DD, etc. stuff) a son 8 and a daughter 5. We were in FL for four nights prior to sailing and two nights after sailing. We rented from Avis both ways. OK, here is the highlights (and recommendations). We were in a category 4, 8018, which is aft.

1. Avis is 'fairly' convenient in terms of location but the bus was a joke. I dropped my wife and kids off at the terminal and it literally took over an hour for me to get the car dropped off and catch their shuttle back to the port. On the way back, I just skipped the very long line for the shuttle and jumped into a waiting Lincoln towncar (taxi) and $15 later (including tip) we were on our way to Orlando (Marriott World Center).
2. We had early rotation but our waiter (Marcos from Brazil by way of LA) was really terrible. His assistant (Roberto) was better but they did not work as a team very well at all. Marcos had a poor attitude and really didn't seem to be interested in being there. We had APLAPLA rotation which is probably my least favorite since I really could do without Animators. I mention the wait staff since on our last cruise (Wonder last year) our waiter, Ronald from India was AMAZING. He and his partner worked together like clock work, the difference was amazing.
3. Partly due to our waiters we chose to dine at Palo three nights, as well as the brunch one day. Palo was AWESOME. We had Salvatore from Italy all three nights (if you go request him and tell him that Kyle and Karen say hello!). Salvatore really made our dining experience wonderful. I went with his recommendations each night and was never disappointed. I gave him an extra $20 tip each night to keep his interest but honestly, he is a professional and would probably treat even modest tippers wonderfully. Obvously don't miss the soufle but the filet was also amazing.
4. Shore excursions: We were on our own in Key West and rented a little Jeep like vehicle and tooled around the island. That was fun. On Cayman we did the Stingray City and tour of the Island tour. I would highly recommend that excursion as if you don't choose a Disney trip they make you wait another hour or so to tender into George Town. Your time on GC is limited as it is so waiting another hour or more would take away from your day. The stingrays were great for our 8 year old, but our 5 year old would not get into the water as they were intimidating to her. Also, at least three or four adults would not get off of the boat either. However, in my view, those who didn't get off the boat really missed an amazing opportunity. The turtle farm tour was also really really cool. I would definitely do that tour again. Another recommendation is to SKIP the 7 mile beach "tour." It seems to be a rip off. You can do that by yourself for much less money (just tender in and take a cab). On Cozumel my kids and I did the submarine and my wife went to Tulum. She enjoyed the ruins but I would definitely PASS on the sub. It reminded me far too much of the old WDW 20,000 Leagues ride. Also the value was not really that great. If you are intent on going on a sub, I'd just bite the bullet and go on the 'real' sub that they offer that is just for two people and a pilot but goes down 300 or more feet. The Atlantis sub only goes down 100 feet and honestly was so much like the old Disney ride I was looking for the track. Also, the seas were VERY rough and many people were uncomfortable taking the boat out to the submarine. If I were going again, I'd rent a Jeep Wrangler from either Hertz or Avis and cruise around the Island. I understand that they have an amazing beach around the opposite side of the island from where you dock.. Finally, on CC my son and I went parasailing. I can not recommend this enough. It was a thrill of a lifetime (well for us the thrill of the morning--and afternoon) We were so impressed by parasailing on our morning run that we booked again for the afternoon. I slipped the driver an extra $50 and he kept us up for like 20 minutes on our afternoon flight (which was also not very crowded) It was unbelievable and I would do it again (probably another two times again in a heartbeat).
5. Other points. If you want to eat lobster again (and I was too stuffed to really want any more food) get out to the adult beach EARLY. By the time we got there after parasailing--around 1pm, they were all gone. People were really making fools of themselved by trying to eat like 5-8 tails. The incredible gorging of some fatties really was offensive. One night at Palo a really really rotund father and son from Indianapolis duo literally ordered 4 entrees, 4 appetizers and 5 desserts EACH. Poor Salvatore really tried to keep a straight face and accomodate them, they really embarrased themselves.

I'll post in the near future about kids club programs (all were good) and shows (we only went to a few but they were good as well), but just wanted to pass along a few remarks.

Kyle
 
You did lots of excursions, I like that!

On Key West, we are going to rent the electric cart like you did and tour on our own.

For Cozumel, we'll be doing the Tulum Ruins as your wife did, so I'm glad she enjoyed it. The only draw back is that it takes most of the day.

I'm glad with our excursion choices so far for our January cruise, but in Grand Cayman, we planned the Atlantis Sub. Yikes! This is the first negative post I heard about that. I understand your comments and I agree about spending the more money on the deeper dive would be better, but its cost is prohibiting us from doing it. I'm rethinking this. We are also planning an overall tour of the island with DCL that hits the highlights like the stingrays (view only), turtle farm, 7-mile beach, Hell... . The "tourist stop" tour. I'm 39 and I'm afraid of those silly stingrays, but I have gone swimming with dolphins, no problem. One thing I'm thinking about is taking the deeper dive with hubby in Grand Cayman and skip the tourist stop tour. Still thinking.

On CC, hubby is hitting the hammock and I'll be doing swimming. We'll bike ride, too. No parasailing like you guys. I'm sure it's really exciting and the view is outstanding. I did go banana boating last time.

Thanks for posting.
Tina
Magic Western 1/18/03:bounce:
 
there must be two Marcos' from Brazil. The Marcos we had on our 10/12 sailing was wonderful and couldn't do enough for us. He even arranged for one of their Indian chefs to cook us something ( a very good chicken vindaloo ! ) that wasn't on the menu and he was great with our DS who had his 13th birthday while we were cruising. However he was partnered with a walking disaster called Marvin. Don't get me wrong, this guy was a real sweetie, but if youve ever seen Fawlty Towers, the name Manuel springs to mind ;) if he brorght our cups, then he forgot the coffee. He would forget to put the cutlery out, go back to get it, then forget what he'd gone back for. He wasn't at our last breakfast because he'd apparantly jumped ship early, even though his contract was finishing that day...somehow I don't think Disney will be renewing it!
 
Don't get me wrong about the submarine. It wasn't 'horrible' it just so reminded me of the WDW ride, which was an E ticket, NOT $95. The other thing with Cozumel is that it is really rather easy and cheap (from my understanding) to rent a Jeep, throw the top down and cruise around the amazing beaches.

As far as Marcos goes, maybe there are two. The one we had really stunk in comparissons to the other waiters we've had and he didn't have a partnering attitude towards Roberto at all. That and our Palo guy, Salvatore was literally one of the very top waitstaff that I've ever had anywhere, and that includes Gibson's in Chicago (my fav rest) and Gallagher's in NY (2nd). He was really extra special..

Hope that helps.

Kyle
 



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