Trading an RCI week to stay at DVC

I am getting married in Disney this December I am a DVC member and my soon to be IL's are RCI members and are planning on staying outside the park ... I would like to make all of our lives ezier by everyone staying on disney property ... RCI is being really shady about the exchnage b/w them and DVC properties ... anyone have any advice how to get thru this loop hole?
Thanks
one80one @ aol . com
 
In doing some research on my own I found some valuable information about the relationship b/w RCI and DVC ... here is the link to the website. I hope this helps me as well as anyone else who is having trouble getting answers from either RCI or DVC.
 

Sorry to ask this ... but what part of the linked ad is "valuable information" wrt to RCI->DVC Exchanges? All I see is an ad for booking rental week from RCI. (Which, understandably, may be a handy tool for your in-laws if they can't pull the exchange.) Please point out why this info is valuable to you ... I'm missing it. (Sorry, this reads more snarky than intended ... I don't mean it that way ... just don't understand the link.)

Edited to add more background on my question: My earliest career years were in technical training. More recently, I've been adjusting my writing style to address a broader audience on more general topics. I often miss the boat, providing more information than was needed or could be digested. (Right, just like this paragraph.) What I'm missing is how the link for the rental opportunities addresses the "shady" goings on between RCI and DVC as referenced in the question of your future IL's exchange. :confused3

I'm guessing a potential rental through RCI simply "solves the problem of needing an exchange"? If so, I'm glad. Planning a wedding has many twists and turns -- I do hope that finding rooms for all parties is as straight and smooth as possible.
 
Thanks Brian. I put in an ongoing search so we'll see what happens. We have a red week at a silver (I think it used to be gold) crown resort that is usually booked for the week we own. I don't know what else counts in the trading power. It would be great to stay in a DVC resort but we also had a great time when we stayed off-site too.
Thanks again,
Goofygirl

I also have a red week at a silver crown resort, and I can't see the DVC properties, so they aren't available to me :sad2: You have to have a really good trader to get in. At Dean's suggestion on TUG, I'm going to try depositing it earlier this year and see if that helps.

I just bought a week 52 in Vail on eBay, but it trades with II. If Disney goes back to II at some point, I'm thinking it should see DVC. Even then, but I don't know that I'd trade it. My kids ski and want to take the grandchildren, and I plan to rent it out some years to pay MF.
 
I am getting married in Disney this December I am a DVC member and my soon to be IL's are RCI members and are planning on staying outside the park ... I would like to make all of our lives ezier by everyone staying on disney property ... RCI is being really shady about the exchnage b/w them and DVC properties ... anyone have any advice how to get thru this loop hole?
Thanks
one80one @ aol . com
I'm going to make some big assumptions, that your parents can't see DVC weeks that might be there, that you are judging when DVC weeks are for rent that this is inappropriate and that your IL are RCI weeks members and not RCI points members. RCI (like II before) works on a comparable trade assumptions, not first come first served. This means that they take your deposit and decide what your trade power is then only show you weeks that you qualify for. Many with RCI do not have the trade power to see DVC weeks and thus they will not show them to you even if they are there. Also there are two ways for RCI to get weeks to rent appropriately. One is for DVC to give them in some way specifically to rent and the other is to take RCI points that have been trade by members and reserve DVC exchange weeks. This is much like DVC works with their cash equivalent exchanges. The only way through the trade power issue is to have a unit that has sufficient trade power, no way to do that once a deposit has been made. The best ways to increase trade power are to deposit as early as possible and where possible, deposit the best week, resort and unit size that you can get.

If they have a current deposit or fixed week they can deposit, here's how to test their trade power. Sign in to RCI and go to exchange your week and the system will search for all available units. An OK unit will likely return around 90K weeks available, a very good unit will currently return 169-170K weeks.
 
We have booked through RCI to stay at OKW resort in July. How long did it take to get the info on Magical Express and adding the dining plan on? Or do I need to initiate that with Disney? I wasn't sure if they will send me info or how long I should wait before I start asking questions???
 
We have booked through RCI to stay at OKW resort in July. How long did it take to get the info on Magical Express and adding the dining plan on? Or do I need to initiate that with Disney? I wasn't sure if they will send me info or how long I should wait before I start asking questions???
All you will get in the info from RCI. You need to call MS to add the DDP and initiate ME.
 
Dean:

I have read this entire thread and thought this might be a perfect place to post my question. We own a red week in September at FoxRun, Lake Lure, that will trade with both II and RCI. We were extremely successful in trading this week into Disney through II. I'm not really very excited that Disney decided to go with RCI. [Makes my life a little more confused.]

We are not members of RCI and the only reason we would join RCI is to trade this week.

Have you received any feedback about the tradability of a FoxRun property? Should I just "go for it" and join RCI, see if we can get a trade?

I'm looking for any kind of advice someone can give me on this.

Thanks,

Leslye
 
The general sense is that the trade power required in RCI Weeks is a bit higher than it was in II. I would guess that a September foxrun week is not going to get it done (after school is back in session, it's more "pink" than "red"), but you might want to ask around on TUG/TS4M to get more first-hand information.
 
TUG is reporting mixed results with Foxrun: one owner w/ week 26 can see DVC deposits online and the next with same week cannot. Go figure??
 
TUG is reporting mixed results with Foxrun: one owner w/ week 26 can see DVC deposits online and the next with same week cannot. Go figure??


The end trading power for RCI Week's trading is based on the general trade strength of the resort you own, the time of the year you own and how early the week is banked into the system.

In this case, since the resort and week are the same the difference is likely that one owner banked the week a year or more in advance and the other banked at a later date.

We own at a quartershare resort (13 weeks each year) on the DVC World Passport list and can "see" DVC inventory on the RCI site for several of our banked weeks and cannot see any DVC inventory using other weeks at the same resort. In some cases the inability is due to the time of the year (Dec - Feb weeks vs June-August weeks) and in other cases it's because I banked the weeks within a month of the arrival date vs banked a year ahead.
 
The TUG foxrun case is a little more pathological. As I remember, both were relatively early deposits at around one year. It's a real head-scratcher.

In general, the only way to know for sure is to deposit your week a little more than one full year prior to use. And, even then, you might not know "in general", just for that week.
 
Dean:

I have read this entire thread and thought this might be a perfect place to post my question. We own a red week in September at FoxRun, Lake Lure, that will trade with both II and RCI. We were extremely successful in trading this week into Disney through II. I'm not really very excited that Disney decided to go with RCI. [Makes my life a little more confused.]

We are not members of RCI and the only reason we would join RCI is to trade this week.

Have you received any feedback about the tradability of a FoxRun property? Should I just "go for it" and join RCI, see if we can get a trade?

I'm looking for any kind of advice someone can give me on this.

Thanks,

Leslye
I'm not the foxrun expert but what I've heard suggests that most won't see DVC and that it trades better in II than RCI. I have had some private conversations that confirm this situation. I'd think you'd need a week 26 or 27 1 BR or larger deposited at least 10 months out to have any chance, even then it's iffy. One thing that might apply is that RCI tends to set you trade power on deposit so if there are a more deposits that are similar when you deposit, you may do worse than someone who deposits 2 weeks earlier or later might actually do better just because of what's around when they deposit. RCI won't admit this so it's hard to be sure. One thing is for certain, as Brian tends to point out, that RCI can be very quirky on trade power, often inexplicably so.

Can anyone tell me the trade power of a summer week in Ogunquit.
DVC ?:confused3
Not I. That's a good question for TUG or one of the similar BBS. My guess is very high for summer and poor for the rest of the time. I'd suspect anytime in June through August would be very good. I'd also expect one would do better in II than RCI for this area if the resort were dually affiliated.
 
Thanks to all of you for your responses. We own week 37 at Foxrun. And I will get into TUG and follow the discussions on that forum.

I really do wish Disney would have stayed with II. My life was so much simpler then.

Leslye
 
Thanks to all of you for your responses. We own week 37 at Foxrun. And I will get into TUG and follow the discussions on that forum.

I really do wish Disney would have stayed with II. My life was so much simpler then.

Leslye
I don't think you'll find too much benefit for a week 37, pretty much a shoulder week. The benefit in II was that DVC wasn't rated that highly because it was Orlando.
 
The end trading power for RCI Week's trading is based on the general trade strength of the resort you own, the time of the year you own and how early the week is banked into the system.

In this case, since the resort and week are the same the difference is likely that one owner banked the week a year or more in advance and the other banked at a later date.

We own at a quartershare resort (13 weeks each year) on the DVC World Passport list and can "see" DVC inventory on the RCI site for several of our banked weeks and cannot see any DVC inventory using other weeks at the same resort. In some cases the inability is due to the time of the year (Dec - Feb weeks vs June-August weeks) and in other cases it's because I banked the weeks within a month of the arrival date vs banked a year ahead.


Doc I'm the one with the week 26 that didn't pull DVC. Long long story but no your explanation is not the case. RCI can't figure it out they attribute it to a "glitch" in the other owners account. I was on the line with multiple superviors, their tech staff (I assume some sort of BA) and they were baffled and can't figure it out, and yes they also had the other owners account info.....they have zero explanation and could just really saw wow that is weird and swear the other person just fell through the cracks and got lucky.

I know there are a lot of RCI backers out here but I find there service to be horrible compared to the cooperation I have had with II. Again long story and it is a matter of opinion.

As far as foxrun goes.....it does have great trade power in II and mixed in RCI but from what I have seen from other owners foxrun as a rule doesn't trade well with RCI. Actually I think the only person with any luck with foxrun and RCI is the person I'm reffering too above. I also have a week 15 that I will keep in II and I just deposited my week 26 (2010) in RCI and just see what it can do overtime and get more experience with RCI. Things can only go up for me with my past expereinces with RCI right:confused3
 



















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