No but not everyone can afford to do thatIs there a problem with that?
No but not everyone can afford to do thatIs there a problem with that?
And that’s where I think it would hurt. People only have so much time they can spend in Florida. Add a 5th gate and now you are taking away attendance from the other four parks. Instead of spending two days at MK people are only spending one, or instead of a full day at Epcot it’s only a half day.Seriously, on the 5th gate, you can't possibly see and do everything now on a 7-day, 6-night visit. We have gone for 2 weeks numerous times and still couldn't see and do everything. I don't think that's a reason not to add a 5th gate. I think it would work in Disney's favor and encourage those who can to stay an additional day or two or to encourage people to plan a return trip sooner rather than later.
People don’t have enough time for vacation days though. Magic Kingdom is a multi day park as well. Many spend 2-3 days there alone. Add in if people want to do water parks, and they’d have to spend two weeks on property to get what they want done.
A fifth gate is going to be a 3+ billion dollar investment into WDW. I’d much rather see them spend that on adding capacity to all four existing parks as they all need it.You know what that means? 14 Day Passes for Americans! I was there for 12 days and I still wasn't able to do everything. Making people want to come back for more is to their benefit.
I think something has to happen just due to demographics. Either a new park at Disney World or a Mid-American Resort. It's been 20 years since Animal Kingdom and I personally think they're going to hit capacity around the 50th. Even if they were to announce a new park in 2021, it won't be ready until 2025 or later. By 2035, the USA will have 100 million more people than it did when Animal Kingdom opened in 1998.
If it were up to me, I'd announce DisneySea at the 50th with a focus on marine life conservation (take that SeaWorld) to be built to the east of Animal Kingdom and share existing infrastructure like the parking lot and bus system. You could also connect the water park to the new park by way of a walkway and connect the convention center at Coronado Springs. They seem to like to connect things.
If nothing else, hopefully Iger's hatred of Universal makes him build something out of spite whenever Universal announces their third gate.
Is it needed today? Probably not, but the question is what is going to be their needs going into the 60th and beyond. Maybe you're right and it's not needed. I don't know, but I do wonder how many people these parks can actually take.
A fifth gate is going to be a 3+ billion dollar investment into WDW. I’d much rather see them spend that on adding capacity to all four existing parks as they all need it.
You also have to think of the economy. Yes you may think crowds are only going to keep going up but if we get hit with another major recession or depression attendance and spending is going to take a major hit.
It would only make sense if that 5th gate took attendance away from Universal/SeaworldPeople only have so much time they can spend in Florida. Add a 5th gate and now you are taking away attendance from the other four parks.
This is a really good point. One big reason whey more people are going to Disney is the simple fact that there are more people, both domestically and worldwide.By 2035, the USA will have 100 million more people than it did when Animal Kingdom opened in 1998.
There will be a recession. I guarantee it. But whenever that happens, it will only be a short-term issue, just like every other recession in history. Building a new park is a long-term investment. Once the recession ends, travel and tourism recovers.You also have to think of the economy. Yes you may think crowds are only going to keep going up but if we get hit with another major recession or depression attendance and spending is going to take a major hit.
That is true but it does stop and change plans. Look at the recession post 9/11. Disney stopped spending and plans were halted for many projects. This latest recession also hindered some in parks around the globe. Lets say Disney announces a new park, then a recession hits, I would expect attractions or experiences from that park to be cut or slimmed down in order to save on costs.There will be a recession. I guarantee it. But whenever that happens, it will only be a short-term issue, just like every other recession in history. Building a new park is a long-term investment. Once the recession ends, travel and tourism recovers.
Absolutely. I agree completely. The timing of the recession can definitely impact plans.That is true but it does stop and change plans. Look at the recession post 9/11. Disney stopped spending and plans were halted for many projects. This latest recession also hindered some in parks around the globe. Lets say Disney announces a new park, then a recession hits, I would expect attractions or experiences from that park to be cut or slimmed down in order to save on costs.
Even in doing that a park like MK still needs more overall capacity.The one thing they could implement immediately that would help the crowded park issue and be way cheaper than opening a 5th gate is to extend operating hours and run the attractions at full capacity.
The one thing they could implement immediately that would help the crowded park issue and be way cheaper than opening a 5th gate is to extend operating hours and run the attractions at full capacity.
I don't necessarily disagree but I think what they are doing now is the way to go. The reason MK is so crazy is because its got all the attractions. DHS has been half a park for a while now which hasn't helped. I think that the improvements made to AK have really shown that if they give some love to the other parks it will help pull people away from MK. We'll see what TSL does this weekend and can only imagine Galaxy's Edge really making DHS a draw for the crowds.Even in doing that a park like MK still needs more overall capacity.
How are they paper thin?Thes arguments against a 5th gate are paper thin and the same people will be celebrating when it finally is announced. You’ll never be able to do it all hence the reason to come back multiple times.
MK needs high capacity additions. The theater would have been great at taking in people. Tron isn’t a high capacity attraction.I don't necessarily disagree but I think what they are doing now is the way to go. The reason MK is so crazy is because its got all the attractions. DHS has been half a park for a while now which hasn't helped. I think that the improvements made to AK have really shown that if they give some love to the other parks it will help pull people away from MK. We'll see what TSL does this weekend and can only imagine Galaxy's Edge really making DHS a draw for the crowds.
Not everyone has more than a week and not everyone can come back.