Tiger admits to "transgressions"

[mumom95]

Tiger has carefully and meticulously crafted a certain image, and has used that image to create a brand. He had sold that image and brand to us and made millions. I'm sorry, but once you do that, you lose some of that right to privacy and judgment. If he (or any celebrity) expects us to buy what they are hawking by selling us a certain image of himself, that that image better be reasonably true. People are so upset and disappointed with him because they trusted him and who he marketed himself as, and now they (rightly) feel lied to. Sure he's human and fallible, and maybe he has been held too high on a pedestal, but he built that pedestal and has been selling stuff to us from it for years.

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I completely agree with this.

 

[UConnJack]

And why cheat on Elin anyway?!? My god, you are supposed to cheat with the Swedish nanny, not on her.

The fact that Tiger thought he could get away with cheating with these skanks who would obvioulsy sell him out on a dime is a testament to his arrogance and selfishness.

Blinded by the .......

 

[a1tinkfans]

While I have no love for the paparazzi, and believe celebrities are often unfairly judged and deprived of basic privacy, I do not agree with you.

Tiger has carefully and meticulously crafted a certain image, and has used that image to create a brand. He had sold that image and brand to us and made millions. I'm sorry, but once you do that, you lose some of that right to privacy and judgment. If he (or any celebrity) expects us to buy what they are hawking by selling us a certain image of himself, that that image better be reasonably true. People are so upset and disappointed with him because they trusted him and who he marketed himself as, and now they (rightly) feel lied to. Sure he's human and fallible, and maybe he has been held too high on a pedestal, but he built that pedestal and has been selling stuff to us from it for years.

As an avid golfer and golf fan, I have been awed by Tiger's ability, focus, and determination, but I can't say I've ever liked him. I haven't hated him (other than for making golf boring to watch sometimes when he's winning every tournament), but have been indifferent. That is probably because I have never felt a human side to him. Sure he can be funny and witty sometimes, but he has always been so guarded, impersonal, and arrogant that he has been hard to relate to. That started to change once he got married and started having kids, he seemed to soften up a bit and seem more human, and I bought into the "family man" image he started to craft. Now that it seems like he's been serially cheating on his wife, and while she was pregnant no less, he seems more human all right, but one I have lost a lot of respect for.

Its funny that Phil Mickelson has always been the one accused of being fake and crafting a certain image, while Tiger, although distant and a bit arrogant, was lauded as genuine. While I'm sure Mickelson has skeletons in his closet too, I suspect (and hope) they are nothing compared to this. Phil has always felt more human to me, and has always been obviously flawed, but one place I feel Mickelson has demonstarted that he is not (seriously) flawed is as a father and husband. Tiger has failed at both, and has a lot of work to do to redeem himself in that regard.

Well Said!

Elin: once a cheat always a cheat...SAD but true......shame he was willing to ditch his family for a string of reckless involvements (which by the way does not say much for the women who get involved with married men) Sad all around!

 

[Robinrs]

And why cheat on Elin anyway?!? My god, you are supposed to cheat with the Swedish nanny, not on her.

The fact that Tiger thought he could get away with cheating with these skanks who would obvioulsy sell him out on a dime is a testament to his arrogance and selfishness.

Blinded by the .......

Oh please she's his WIFE. He already knows she's beautiful that has nothing to do with cheating. Ask Christie Brinkley, Halle Berry or Elizabeth Hurley..... dogs!

 

[UConnJack]

Oh please she's his WIFE. He already knows she's beautiful that has nothing to do with cheating. Ask Christie Brinkley, Halle Berry or Elizabeth Hurley..... dogs!

Oh I know.... I was just making a joke.

While cheating may be more "forgivable" when its primarily a symptom of a loveless marriage or a single stupid indiscretion, a lot of cheating is about power, arrogance and selfishness. I suspect Tiger's case is the latter. When you have the power, money and stature Tiger has, play the "family man" card, and then go on to have several extended extramartial affairs, it ain't about her, its about him.

That's the kind of cheater that is always a cheater.

 

[DebbieB]

While cheating may be more "forgivable" when its primarily a symptom of a loveless marriage or a single stupid indiscretion, a lot of cheating is about power, arrogance and selfishness. I suspect Tiger's case is the latter. When you have the power, money and stature Tiger has, play the "family man" card, and then go on to have several extended extramartial affairs, it ain't about her, its about him.

That's the kind of cheater that is always a cheater.

I agree. Why does the President of the US risk everything to cheat with an intern? Why does a Governor cheat with a Call Girl and lose it all? On and on down the list. Nothing to do with looks or love. They know they could lose everything if caught but they still do it. It's part of the power trip.

 

[UConnJack]

We heard that Tiger's wife has been interested in taking up golf. However, 2:30 am does sound a bit of an odd time to start hitting your Woods.

Ping just offered Elin Nordegren an endorsement contract pushing her own set of drivers. They are marketing them as "clubs you can beat Tiger with."

News travels fast. The Chinese are already making a movie about Tiger Woods' crash. They are calling it, "Scratching Swede, Lying Tiger."

What does Tiger Woods have in common with baby seals? They're both clubbed by Scandinavians.

Police: Did you hit your husband with the golf club?
Elin: Yes I hit him three or four times.
Police: Well, which was it: three or four?
Elin: Just put me down for three.

 

[SamRoc]

I got this in an email today.

 

[Missy1961]

I always have to wonder why someone like him (if it's all true) even gets married. I mean, he really hasn't been married all that long. I'm sure that prior to Elin, he had women throwing themselves at him and I'm sure he went for that. If you enjoy that lifestyle, why even GET married. He's young, attractive, unbelievably wealthy--he doesn't even probably have the societal "pressures" that many of us might feel we have to do the whole married with kids routine.

I guess I'm not understanding why he even bothered?

I was going to say the same thing. I don't get it-a guy like him doesn't need to be married, so why bother?

 

[UConnJack]

I don't get it-a guy like him doesn't need to be married, so why bother?

Because either:

a) He loves her and wants to be dedicated and faithful to her.

or

b) He is selfish and wanted her to himself (a trophy wife), while feeling he could still play the field.

Everyone (including and especially Elin) was duped into thinking it was a), but obviously it was b).

 

[happygirl]

I was going to say the same thing. I don't get it-a guy like him doesn't need to be married, so why bother?

It makes his image look better a good family man married with two kids a picture perfect life, Until he gets caught

 

[dvcgirl]

I'd tell him that he could have half of the houses (after the wife gets her pick), to expect to see the kids every other weekend and wednesdays (if he's in town and not "texting" with one of his many mistresses).....and maybe two weeks in the summer.

He might as well throw the pre-nup in the fire as any decent attorney will crush it to dust. Apparently Elin is no dummy as there are reports that she's having the pre-nup renegotiated as we speak.

Listen, I think it's fine to say that this is a private affair. Also fine to come out and say "hey, I'm human too...I make mistakes", but this is far from just a "fling"......we've already got three woman out there talking about sexual encounters. How long until we hear from several more?

This isn't just a "minor mistake"....of even a "flawed decision". This is just nasty.....and it has changed the way that I will view Tiger Woods. And I'm betting that I'm not the only person (especially as a woman) who feels this way.

So much of his product endorsements are tied not just to his dedication and his excellence on the golf course....but also to his supposed integrity. That last ingredient is now out the window.

 

[Disney Doll]

And isn't a moral or value forgiveness? He didn't cheat on you, he didn't hurt your children, he hurt his wife, he hurt his children and he is going to have to face the punishment of that, he is going to have to man up to them. He doesn't owe the public one thing. He doesn't have to apologize to the public because the public is not a bigger part of his life as his family and wife. He will probably have to make peace with them before apologizing to the public who in one second can raise a man to high standards, praise him but when he makes a mistake, can rip away his wings and kick him to the ground. His job isn't to teach morals or values, his job is to wack a ball with a stick and make the ball go into a hole. That is it.

A few commments:
~ Tiger chooses to live a portion of his life in the public, and he makes a very good living doing so. The good side of celebrity is the making money part. The bad side is the loss of privacy part. And you know, like it or not, he does owe the public a certain amount because he is a public figure, he has fans who watch him play golf and buy what he endorses because he endorses it.
~ Bad handling by his press people. He should have taken a lesson from David Letterman...admit your mistake, and move on. Think about it...Letterman fessed up, it was in the news for a day or two and then gone. Now Lettterman has the "privacy" he needs to work on his relationship with his wife and family. Meanwhile how many days has this thing been dragging on???? By being so insistent on his privacy, he actually drew more attention to himself and his "situation".
~ We've all fought with our spouses. Better to say "Yes, my wife and I had a huge fight and I was upset and leaving to take a drive to cool off and clear my head and guess I wasn't paying real close attention to my driving". That would have been believable, because it was probably pretty close to the truth of what happened...
~ If what is being said about his infidelity is true, he didn't make a mistake, he made a choice. Missing a putt is a mistake. Sleeping with someone other than your spouse is a choice. Just wanted to clear that up.

 

[OhMari]

I'd tell him that he could have half of the houses (after the wife gets her pick), to expect to see the kids every other weekend and wednesdays (if he's in town and not "texting" with one of his many mistresses).....and maybe two weeks in the summer.

He might as well throw the pre-nup in the fire as any decent attorney will crush it to dust. Apparently Elin is no dummy as there are reports that she's having the pre-nup renegotiated as we speak.

Listen, I think it's fine to say that this is a private affair. Also fine to come out and say "hey, I'm human too...I make mistakes", but this is far from just a "fling"......we've already got three woman out there talking about sexual encounters. How long until we hear from several more?

This isn't just a "minor mistake"....of even a "flawed decision". This is just nasty.....and it has changed the way that I will view Tiger Woods. And I'm betting that I'm not the only person (especially as a woman) who feels this way.

So much of his product endorsements are tied not just to his dedication and his excellence on the golf course....but also to his supposed integrity. That last ingredient is now out the window.

I pretty much agree with everything you are saying, but I heard a few analyst on tv say, it's not going to hurt Tiger at all with his endorsement, if anything it is going to increase his endorsement deals.

I don't know why Tiger didn't stick to his "not saying anything" . Doesn't it seem strange that there is just not one person, but 3 women have surfaced?

 

[ogreenlee]

Maybe he married her because they fell in love? Is that not a possibility?

Some men get tempted once and can't say no. I bet he was having to say no a lot and it got to him.. and he failed at restraining himself. That doesn't take away the fact that he fell in love with his wife before that.

It's definitely not a moment of pride for him, and if she's not beating him with a golf club, his mama probably is!

Some men AND WOMEN still love their spouses, but have "transgressions". It doesn't make sense, but it happens. Some married couples go and share each other with other couples. There are all types.

Ever heard of Ashley Madison? The woman (or whomever it is) is making bank off of infidelities. It's unbelievable.

But really... it's none of my business.

 

[Skywalker]

I agree. The fact (if it's true) that he was calling his girlfriend and trying to cover his tracks with the cellphone is pathetic. He isn't sorry, he's sorry he got caught.

Yeah I agree. He was calling his girlfriend to cover his tracks as recently as what...last Tuesday I think?? So unless he had some big moral enlightenment over the past week (coincidentally times just when it all hits the fan) then nah, he's just sorry he got caught.

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

I too am of the opinion that he owes an explanation to nobody but his own family.

I agree.

 

[Buckalew11]

I always have to wonder why someone like him (if it's all true) even gets married. I mean, he really hasn't been married all that long. I'm sure that prior to Elin, he had women throwing themselves at him and I'm sure he went for that. If you enjoy that lifestyle, why even GET married. He's young, attractive, unbelievably wealthy--he doesn't even probably have the societal "pressures" that many of us might feel we have to do the whole married with kids routine.

I guess I'm not understanding why he even bothered?

Makes me think of George Clooney. I think it is smart for people not to marry if they don't want to or think they can't be faithful. And once you're married, you stay faithful, period. Having sex with someone isn't anything but a choice/decision you make. it isn't like slipping on a banana peel and you were surprised by it.

A few commments:
~ Tiger chooses to live a portion of his life in the public, and he makes a very good living doing so. The good side of celebrity is the making money part. The bad side is the loss of privacy part. And you know, like it or not, he does owe the public a certain amount because he is a public figure, he has fans who watch him play golf and buy what he endorses because he endorses it.
~ Bad handling by his press people. He should have taken a lesson from David Letterman...admit your mistake, and move on. Think about it...Letterman fessed up, it was in the news for a day or two and then gone. Now Lettterman has the "privacy" he needs to work on his relationship with his wife and family. Meanwhile how many days has this thing been dragging on???? By being so insistent on his privacy, he actually drew more attention to himself and his "situation".
~ We've all fought with our spouses. Better to say "Yes, my wife and I had a huge fight and I was upset and leaving to take a drive to cool off and clear my head and guess I wasn't paying real close attention to my driving". That would have been believable, because it was probably pretty close to the truth of what happened...
~ If what is being said about his infidelity is true, he didn't make a mistake, he made a choice. Missing a putt is a mistake. Sleeping with someone other than your spouse is a choice. Just wanted to clear that up.

We've seemed to forgotten this part. Too many people are like "whoops"...uh, no, you made a choice to cheat. Period. It might happen in the heat of the moment but you still make that choice. Call it what it is.

I have no tolerance for cheaters. There isn't a man on this earth I'd stay married to if he cheated on me. I used to think this when I was young, then I thought no, maybe I'd stay for my child but I'm back to "no way". Life is too short to stay with a cheater.

And for what it is worth, I think what a cheater does to his or her kids is far worse than what I think it does to the spouse.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

I was a nanny for a pro-sports family. Often players are pressured by their agents to get married or have a kid before a contract signing. That image pays more.

Many wives commit as part of a business contract more than for love. An example of this is Magic Johnson. Right after his HIV announcement he went and married an old girlfirend, one he hadn't seen in years.

The wife of the family I worked for told me from the beginning that I might hear of other women and to please keep it private and never tell her. She said she knew it was far too tempting for her husband not to cheat.

She even told me the story of their wedding. He had fathered a child with her years prior. She had to sue him for child support. They had a very nasty, legal battle for years.

One day she gets a call from him asking for forgiveness and wanting to commit to her. He went to their hometown over a weekend and married her. He signed a multi-million dollar contract when he returned.

This was the case with many players on the team. The family would gather outside the locker room after every game. The players would come out and grab a child from a nanny so they could hold them during locker room interviews. The players would then walk with their families through a public area with fans and media. We would walk behind the stadium where the nannies got the kids back and the players went to their cars to various clubs and parties.

So much is for show. The public wants wholesome, family men. The agents and coaches create them.


That's Tiger's problem now. Crying for privacy when you have made a billion dollars off an image. Yes, he is a great player, but a huge hunk of his popularity came from what he wanted to project to the public. Too late for privacy now.

 

[Buckalew11]

I was a nanny for a pro-sports family. Often players are pressured by their agents to get married or have a kid before a contract signing. That image pays more.

Many wives commit as part of a business contract more than for love. An example of this is Magic Johnson. Right after his HIV announcement he went and married an old girlfirend, one he hadn't seen in years.

The wife of the family I worked for told me from the beginning that I might hear of other women and to please keep it private and never tell her. She said she knew it was far too tempting for her husband not to cheat.
She even told me the story of their wedding. He had fathered a child with her years prior. She had to sue him for child support. They had a very nasty, legal battle for years.

One day she gets a call from him asking for forgiveness and wanting to commit to her. He went to their hometown over a weekend and married her. He signed a multi-million dollar contract when he returned.

This was the case with many players on the team. The family would gather outside the locker room after every game. The players would come out and grab a child from a nanny so they could hold them during locker room interviews. The players would then walk with their families through a public area with fans and media. We would walk behind the stadium where the nannies got the kids back and the players went to their cars to various clubs and parties.

So much is for show. The public wants wholesome, family men. The agents and coaches create them.


That's Tiger's problem now. Crying for privacy when you have made a billion dollars off an image. Yes, he is a great player, but a huge hunk of his popularity came from what he wanted to project to the public. Too late for privacy now.

sorry but that comment from that wife is about one of the sickest mindsets I've ever heard of. Too tempting for him not to cheat? Give me a break. That's just