Tiered FP+ for DHS

[Disneylover99]

I know people are unhappy about the new system & posting like crazy about it here, what I'm wondering is if anyone has thought to voice these concerns & complaints to Disney directly? Yes I understand the frustration regarding this however just voicing it on these boards will not tell Disney how unsatisfied people are. Maybe if Disney knew how dissatisfied people are & if they get enough complaints maybe, just maybe they will actually take this into consideration.

I have emailed my problems/concerns that I had. I also complained that as a Canadian, I don't get to do a survey about it. I guess the opinions/experiences of international travelers don't count.

 

[Laketravis]

Seriously? So the fact that one is willing to invest a large sum of money into a product necessitates their complete support of said product regardless of how the cards fall after the initial investment? My family has spent $17,000 on our upcoming Jan trip. 4 adults, 5 ticketed kids, 10 nights. I have loved Disney since I was a little girl and my mom scraped together enough money to drive us up from San Diego to see Disneyland two times. DH and I decided to elope and run off to Disney for a honeymoon instead of spending that money on a "proper" wedding. We had the best trip ever 2 years ago with our growing brood and without a doubt that was due to research, planning and utilizing RD and FP to the max of our capability. I was that FP runner, 8 months pregnant and sprinting for TSMM to get FPs before we all hopped on standby. And I loved every minute of it! I started pining for a return trip the instant we stepped into MCO on the way home. I sold a ton of old baby clothes and photography stuff I wasn't using anymore to help pay for a trip in May to take my little sister to her first Disney park ever. I was thrilled to trade in my 10 day ticket for our Jan trip for an AP and when they accidentally sent me 2 AP-holder magnets I stuck both of those puppies on my Suburban proudly! I have never never understood the women who ooh and ahh over purses, but I squealed with delight when my DH got me a D&B mickey balloon purse. Why does it have to be an either/or mentality for so many people? Why is it not possible to love all the magic that a place represents and at the same time feel like bits of that magic are being stolen away from you in the name of cold cash and hard numbers? In a span of 2 years we have given $30,000 to Disney - they don't also get a right to my unending patience and forgiveness. I still retain my ability to think for myself, have opinions - even conflicting ones! - and put a stop to the cash flow when I feel the stress and disappointment of planning the trip is starting to outweigh the magic I feel when there. My 6 year old with Down syndrome doesn't want to go to Disney to wander around and absorb the atmosphere - he wants to experience the rides that, in his nearly non-verbal world, immerse him in the characters and films that he loves, like Toy Story - ones he can't get at Six Flags. We all experience the magic differently and for me the magic is mostly in watching my kids experience what's important to them. We didn't use GAC last trip because our hard work and planning meant we didn't need to even think about it; I encourage my kids to learn to meet the world half-way rather than sit back and expect accommodations. I'm happy to get 8 kids up, dressed and on that bus an hour before RD and hoof it with a newborn slung against my chest to get those precious FPs so my kids can ride TSMM two or three times. We may need to think about using DAS next time, not because we want special accommodations but because we want what we had 2 years ago. And yes, that bothers me greatly. I want to be able to give my kids the same experience we had last time with hard work and determination alone. Right now I feel forced to work hard - keeping up with these changes, spending 2 hours in the middle of the night dealing with the glitches to get our FP+s booked, trying to keep 8 kids and 2 seniors on a tight schedule that is now bound into one-hour increments I had to choose 60 days in advance of REALITY happening - and if my little guy can't ride TSMM 3x because I worked hard to get him on that ride (not because the world ACCOMMODATED us), then I'm not going to bleat like a sheep to the tune of Steamboat Willie. I'm going to be disappointed, and I'm going to take our money elsewhere. Why some people on this board can't understand the conflicting emotions that are involved for many of us with these changes is beyond me. If you're happy with the changes, then what does it matter to you if I'm not? Perhaps it goes back to the idea that opinions that vary from our own act as a spotlight on unconscious self-doubts we ourselves harbor; I encourage you to explore that psychological aspect before making such thoughtless comments to fellow Disney-lovers. I'll do everything I can to make this trip awesome for my kids, because we're all in now. And I will still love Disney characters and stories and all of those hard-earned magical memories we made together as a family. But I am an intelligent thinking being who is capable of experiencing multiple cognitive notions and emotions at once and I can simultaneously dislike the micromanagement being employed at the parks.

If Disney were to get several hundred thousand emails of this quote with the simple statement 'This is exactly how I feel' then they might actually pay attention.

Or maybe this eloquent poster could make this part of one of those online petitions. If it were to get tens of thousands of votes and the message was structured as well as this post, I bet that would get a lot of attention as well.

We will be arriving at WDW next Thursday for a 17 day stay. I will be actively seeking out the pollsters with the clipboards and providing my input.

 

[pigletto]

I have emailed my problems/concerns that I had. I also complained that as a Canadian, I don't get to do a survey about it. I guess the opinions/experiences of international travelers don't count.

Yep. I also emailed my opinion when the Canadian website was a mess for a good year, emailed again when we finally had access to MDE and it was a disaster, and I have had a "ticket" in with I.T. since the first week of September and have called about it several times. No response, no changes, no resolution, nothing. So while I do agree it's important to let Disney know if you have concerns or problems, I will advise everyone not to hold their breath on a response.

 

[ArwenMarie]

"Why some people on this board can't understand the conflicting emotions that are involved for many of us with these changes is beyond me. If you're happy with the changes, then what does it matter to you if I'm not? Perhaps it goes back to the idea that opinions that vary from our own act as a spotlight on unconscious self-doubts we ourselves harbor; I encourage you to explore that psychological aspect before making such thoughtless comments to fellow Disney-lovers."

Great post stairstepmom.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I think tiering is here to stay, and probably coming to AK and MK as well, if only to keep things looking consistent, and because of the Mine Coaster.

I don't imagine they will do something where they lift the tiers for less busy weeks, etc...too confusing and too much work.

I could see them sending out bonus FPs like they did for MK if they have that much extra capacity. However, there are probably so few weeks anymore where that is true.

 

[mom2rtk]

I want my family-friendly, easy-going, flexible-on-the-fly, Disney vacations back

That's an awesome way of describing legacy FP. Some people just don't get why others don't jump on board with FP+. It's precisely because it's not "flexible-on-the-fly".

Ok let me caveat this. I am not a FP+ doomsayer and I have no plans of canceling any planned Disney trips.
That said isn't this becoming a worse version of the old e-ticket system. I know with the old eticket you did not get to skip the line but they gave you I believe 3 etickets. With the current system you get 1 FP+. Look I enjoy prety much every attraction at Disney but I have never needed a FP+ for Figment, BATB, Indiana Jones etc. Sure for some I didnt get a prime seat but I never had a bad seat either. Bottomline I feel I'm being limited to one FP. How much different is that really than old eticket? We have gone full circle.
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Yep. It's sort of inching its way toward that old system. But don't forget we will still be paying all-access pricing.

I liked you original post before you edited it and took the truth out of it.

I miss all the good stuff. Don't you people know I go to be early!

What is more weird is for a place tht rt2dz totally criticizes, they talk of spending 12k. For that money if the rides are all you want go to Six Flags and pocket 10K.

It's now weird. A lot of people have very expensive trips planned right now. They are fully committed. Which is part of the frustration. So I'm sure attendance will stay high for a while yet. The real test of this will be whether those die-hard fans book a return trip.

Wouldn't you all love to see the rate of bounce-backs booked from POP guests over the next couple of weeks? I wonder if that will get anyone's attention.

The recent changes to FP+, tiered EPCOT, POP room keys eliminated from FP-, and now DHS tiered, I think can be initially tied to one thing. Christmas is coming. .

Yep. Merry freaking Christmas from Mickey.

And THAT, my friends, is how to write an eloquent and effective post!

I totally agree. Awesome post to wake up to this morning Stairstepmom!

Tiers, schmeirs.....even if I were going to have FP+ available for our trip next month, it would do me no good. I have been a dozen times and a month out from our trip I don't even know what park we will be at each day...how the hell would I choose what ride and time I need?

Yep. I can't even imagine what this would do to last minute bookings. I know I'll never consider it again if it all shakes out the way it looks.

Honestly, I'm having difficulty coming up with 3 FP+ options in HS regardless of tiering. We would usually get one for TSM if we could, and then ride ST over and over with FPs. Am I really going to set a time for Muppet Vision?? This is all silly.

And here's the dumb part. I don't want or need a ST fastpass. But I'd love a couple for RnR. So instead of 2 happy customers, Disney comes up 0 for 2. I just don't see how that bodes well for them. or us. But we already knew that part.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think tiering is here to stay, and probably coming to AK and MK as well, if only to keep things looking consistent, and because of the Mine Coaster.

I don't imagine they will do something where they lift the tiers for less busy weeks, etc...too confusing and too much work.

I could see them sending out bonus FPs like they did for MK if they have that much extra capacity. However, there are probably so few weeks anymore where that is true.

I also think tiering is here to stay. I think they run the risk of it all getting too complicated to be changing it around all the time. I just think in the slow times they might offer a "bonus tier 1" or "bonus tier 2" along the way. Or have same-day Fps available from any leftovers, once someone gets to the park. Which would never be something you could count on, so just really doesn't excite me at all. Right now I know if I get there at rope drop, I can FP pretty much every single ride I want to do, in addition to doing some standby before the crowds arrive. I don't like switching that to "maybe" I can do that. Unless Disney lets me go in with a "maybe" I'll pay approach.

 

[JanaDee]

I know people are unhappy about the new system & posting like crazy about it here, what I'm wondering is if anyone has thought to voice these concerns & complaints to Disney directly? Yes I understand the frustration regarding this however just voicing it on these boards will not tell Disney how unsatisfied people are. Maybe if Disney knew how dissatisfied people are & if they get enough complaints maybe, just maybe they will actually take this into consideration.

I have, yes. Both when I was in the parks a few weeks ago and by email before (regarding planning) AND after I returned home (actual experience). I got the typical Disney brush-off ~ "thanks for your comments, we'll take them into consideration, blah blah blah".

They don't care. Disney has spent too much money on this pet project and will shove it through regardless of feedback. Remember, a good percentage of visitors are first-timers and don't know any better. Disney is counting on people not knowing the "old" system.

 

[KatieCharlotte]

Why does it have to be an either/or mentality for so many people? Why is it not possible to love all the magic that a place represents and at the same time feel like bits of that magic are being stolen away from you in the name of cold cash and hard numbers?

I appreciated your entire post but this one line really sums up how I -- and many, many others -- feel. We care because we love Disney and have had many wonderful experiences there. And, we love our families and feel responsible for creating the best possible vacation for them.

I have an older child with sensory issues but no particular diagnosable disability who would love to feel ready to ride a coaster but won't know if he is until that morning at the park after he has tried a few smaller rides. All my children have mild compulsive tendencies and tend to find a new favorite ride that they want to experience repeatedly. Last trip, it was Haunted Mansion; thankfully, the lines weren't bad pre-FP. This year, when I ask them what they're looking forward to, they keep saying Peter Pan. I also have a DH who doesn't like standing still and enjoyed the role of FP-gatherer. I could probably wander the park and feel and I have plenty of patience for lines, but I want my entire family to have a wonderful vacation. I can't force them to spend our limited time and money somewhere that doesn't meet our needs or make us feel the

This year, I'm afraid to put all my vacation eggs in one unpredictable basket, so our Florida trip will include just one day at Disney.

 

[lizziesc]

Nicely written Stairstepmom.

 

[wisblue]

For what it's worth, I checked the FP+ reservation site this morning and checked December 26, and there was no tiering for DHS (and still was for Epcot). Maybe that was just a glitch, but if you are trying to make FP+ reservations at DHS maybe you should act quickly.

 

[CandleontheWater]

I think it's time to jump on the train to reality.

I highly doubt that they are just throwing ideas against the wall to see what sticks. They very definitely have ideas in mind and are trying to go with it. Tiering there, tiering taken away, teiring is back.

I guess you enjoy lines. I don't. Not a single person in my family enjoys lines. An hour in line is at least 40 minutes of pure hell. Having a larger family magnifies it. Not everyone even has the same interests. The limit of 3 makes it so not everyone can even ride their favorite ride. The shows (what's left of them) are the same as they have been for years. The shops don't have anything worth browsing--if you've seen one, you've seen it all and it's Walmart quality. The dining isn't superb, never has been, but it used to be the service was good and the atmosphere fun. Rides are all that is left.

You are spot on!

I have a high energy preschooler, and (big surprise here), I'm not the only person at Disney with a high energy little boy, so I know I'm not the only one who experiences the misery that is long lines.

To give you an idea, here is a script of the things I say over and over again while waiting in line with my son. To give you a realistic view of how much fun standing in line is, I challenge you to read this script over and over again for an hour, imagining the dirty looks and cutting stares from fellow guests, all while getting progressively more frazzled and miserable yourself.

Everett- come over here...get into THIS line...please stand still...stop jumping...alright, then stop hopping...don't wave your arms around...don't touch the chains...don't touch the chains....DON'T TOUCH THE CHAINS!!...leave your brother alone...don't touch your brother's leg...don't touch his face...he doesn't want to hold your hand...leave HIM ALONE...step away from the people in front of us...don't step on their feet....stop spinning....stop jumping....stand STILL....Don't yell...don't cry....no you can't have popcorn right now...DON'T TOUCH THE CHAINS...We're almost there, PLEASE just hold it together.... (are we having fun yet?)

Doing this for 10-15 minutes isn't fun, but is doable. There is no way I'd do it for an hour (or more), I'm not a masochist.

I know it will get better, and I know that the boys will get older and waits will be more do-able, but that doesn't mean I'm not heartsick over the trips I'm going to have to give up now. I love Disney, that is the problem, if I didn't love it this wouldn't be a big deal.

 

[tarak]

You are spot on!

I have a high energy preschooler, and (big surprise here), I'm not the only person at Disney with a high energy little boy, so I know I'm not the only one who experiences the misery that is long lines.

To give you an idea, here is a script of the things I say over and over again while waiting in line with my son. To give you a realistic view of how much fun standing in line is, I challenge you to read this script over and over again for an hour, imagining the dirty looks and cutting stares from fellow guests, all while getting progressively more frazzled and miserable yourself.

Everett- come over here...get into THIS line...please stand still...stop jumping...alright, then stop hopping...don't wave your arms around...don't touch the chains...don't touch the chains....DON'T TOUCH THE CHAINS!!...leave your brother alone...don't touch your brother's leg...don't touch his face...he doesn't want to hold your hand...leave HIM ALONE...step away from the people in front of us...don't step on their feet....stop spinning....stop jumping....stand STILL....Don't yell...don't cry....no you can't have popcorn right now...DON'T TOUCH THE CHAINS...We're almost there, PLEASE just hold it together.... (are we having fun yet?)

Doing this for 10-15 minutes isn't fun, but is doable. There is no way I'd do it for an hour (or more), I'm not a masochist.

I know it will get better, and I know that the boys will get older and waits will be more do-able, but that doesn't mean I'm not heartsick over the trips I'm going to have to give up now. I love Disney, that is the problem, if I didn't love it this wouldn't be a big deal.

To the bolded, I'd have to add, "What do you mean you have to go potty?" This usually happens right as we're boarding the ride.

The three FP+ limit is doable for us. We travel in late January when the crowds are light, and we rarely pull more than 2-3 FP per day. We love all the attractions - including the ride in Mexico, Livin' with the Land, the COP, and the Tiki Room. Well, I like the Tiki Room and the baby isn't yet old enough to tell me she hates it.

However, the tiered system really makes me nervous. We'll use the single rider line for TT. I think there's one for RNRC, so that should be fine and we'll use the FP+ for TSM, which we've never even been on. But if they roll it out for MK, I'll have issues if Enchanted Tales With Belle is on the same tier as Space Mountain. Everyone wants to experience the first one and my oldest really wants to go on SM (as do my husband and I). My sixty-day window opens next Thursday. I only hope I'm able to make FP and they haven't tiered MK by then. Based on the current schedule (two weeks between Epcot and DHS), we should be okay.

 

[Crafty527]

I think that each individual family needs to decide a response to this change.

A few seem to really like FP+. They should continue to go to WDW and even increase their trips.

A few will never be happy with the new system and should really go somewhere else. A vacation should not be a time of sadness for things lost.

I think that the vast majority are not sure what the impact of FP+ will be. These people should wait a while if they can, and go on a trip once it is finalized. That trip will tell them if the new type of Disney vacation is worth it for them.

We fall into the third camp. We are apprehensive. We liked the old FP system. We have a trip planned for May. We have AP and are DVC members. We have never been to Universal. We will evaluate after the 12 day May trip.

Make no mistake. Thousands of people can complain and disney will not change anything they have planned. Obviously this plan has a goal of making more money for Disney. They believe that they can do anything they want and we all will keep going to WDW. They are gambling that we will pay more, get less, and keep coming. They may be right. Theme park revenues are way up.

The only thing that Disney will pay attention to is a decline in revenue. If FP+ makes them money it will be a huge success for them. It may not be a success for our family, so,the ball is in our court to decide our response. We will wait until May and then we should know what to do.

 

[Magpie]

I liked you original post before you edited it and took the truth out of it.

Well, the edited post is also true.

I deleted what I wrote, because I realized that it's not necessary. The kind of folks who like to characterize other people as "losers" aren't going to stop just because I don't like it. And there's been a lot of that in this thread (the poster I quoted wasn't the only one throwing around the l-word).

What I just needed to remember was that lesson I learned way back when I was a kid at the "loser's" table in the lunchroom, snorting my free milk out of my nose because I was laughing SO hard at something one of my friends said...

What other people think doesn't matter! All that matters is that you're in a good place, having a good time, with your friends, who love you and will never judge you on the basis of a milk malfunction.

Fact is, I've never pulled more than three fastpasses in a day, and I've never waited an hour in line for any ride. I've been in parks with crowd levels rated 4, and in parks with crowd levels rated 8. Even with the tier system and no FP-, I'm very likely going to find my touring style enhanced by FP+, not harmed by it. I'm feeling excited and positive about my upcoming trip (two weeks!). So if one of the cool kids is looking over at me and thinking that makes me a loser...

Then that's their problem. They can be miserable. Me, I'm still having a good time!

That's why I deleted my post.

 

[MrInfinity]

All these posts about how ppl's toddler is so high energy and doesn't like waiting in lines so you should not have to. Come on. There are a million high energy toddlers going to WDW, and they all want to ride the rides, thus, you have long lines. It does not work like those who are patient wait and those who are impatient get to go quicker cuz your child will whine if he has to stand still. (medical disabilities understandably excepted, for which there are alternatives).

And is it really the toddler who is impatient, or the parent? It is the parent posting out here... I think the toddlers themselves are enthralled to be at Disney World and completely amazed at everything going on around them, and frankly, are quite happy playing w the silly line-amusement toys like by Soarin. It is worlds ahead of a Great America type park where you just have to stand.

Yes. Previously, the system could be manipulated so that some aggressive ticket-seekers could ride more than other people at those other ppl's expense. Yes, Disney has correctly, and for the better of most, cracked down on this. Yes since you can't do it any more, and you can only FP+ one headliner, you get to ride less. But everyone else gets to ride more, and that, simply, is better for Disney, and everyone else.

All this whining is soooo.... like.... yeah. Like a toddler standing in a line.

Going in May, excited! Despite the fact that we'll be standing in the same lines that y'all will.

 

[MrInfinity]

In a span of 2 years we have given $30,000 to Disney

As in donated? Or you've spend that money on services that you wanted because they were worth it to you... That's not giving, that's buying.

he wants to experience the rides that, in his nearly non-verbal world, immerse him in the characters and films that he loves, like Toy Story - ones he can't get at Six Flags.

The issue, is EVERYONE'S kid (whether verbal, or nearly non-verbal) wants to experience those same rides, and for the same reasons - they're so much better. They have sentimental value. Whatever. EVERYONE wants to. So everyone must share and wait their turn.

Instead of the old FP system which was great for some and sucky for others, Disney is simply making it good for everyone to get on 3 decent rides per park. You shouldn't get on 9 while someone else gets on 2.

If you step back and look at the big picture, instead of just how it affects you, you see it's actually a really good idea and system.

We all experience the magic differently and for me the magic is mostly in watching my kids experience what's important to them.

Again. Problem there is that the same rides are what's important to pretty much every other kid also there. Thus -- wait your turn.

I can't believe this feeling of entitlement that so many are expressing. Disney is offering their park, w whatever system of tickets they want to offer. You can buy it or not. No one's forcing you. You don't have to like it, but having been able to do so in the past or not, you're not entitled to go on the beloved rides any more than the next kid.

 

[ktlm]

For awhile now we've been thinking it's time to start checking some other destinations off of our vacation bucket list. But we've always had such a good time at Disney I'd get back and book another trip. I can't say I won't this time, but it doesn't seem likely. I am excited for this trip but I'm also thinking of it as the last one for awhile. It would have to really wow me to make up for all of this nonsense and I just don't see that happening.
I know we'll have fun but for the first time in a long time I am thinking of a big trip to Banff and the Rockies, or an Alaskan cruise and it's exciting.
So I guess it's not a bad thing.

That is totally us! We talk about trying somewhere else, but we usually have our next WDW trip booked before we leave WDW. We got back October 13, over a month ago, and don't have another WDW trip booked- that hasn't happened to us in 5 years! We loved our WDW trips so much and it is so easy because you don't have to look for entertainment and plan out a bunch of different things at different places, it is all right there on property! WDW was just kind of home. I will say that we spent more money for this October trip than for any WDW trip ever, as DH really really wanted to try a certain deluxe where we could not get a discount for this trip, and it turned out to be our most stressful and probably least enjoyable trip which we blame a lot of on MDE/FP+. Not to say we still didn't have a great time, because we did, it just wasn't quite as good as our previous trips and we felt like we didn't get as much done. At this point we are planning not to make our annual trip to WDW next year unless the tiering goes away and there are some big changes with FP+. Maybe you are right it isn't a bad thing. I think we are looking at NYC or maybe even Hawaii.


Staristepmom, I agree that your post was fabulous.

 

[rebbyparker]

Seriously?

So the fact that one is willing to invest a large sum of money into a product necessitates their complete support of said product regardless of how the cards fall after the initial investment?

My family has spent $17,000 on our upcoming Jan trip.
4 adults, 5 ticketed kids, 10 nights.

I have loved Disney since I was a little girl and my mom scraped together enough money to drive us up from San Diego to see Disneyland two times. DH and I decided to elope and run off to Disney for a honeymoon instead of spending that money on a "proper" wedding.

We had the best trip ever 2 years ago with our growing brood and without a doubt that was due to research, planning and utilizing RD and FP to the max of our capability. I was that FP runner, 8 months pregnant and sprinting for TSMM to get FPs before we all hopped on standby. And I loved every minute of it!

I started pining for a return trip the instant we stepped into MCO on the way home. I sold a ton of old baby clothes and photography stuff I wasn't using anymore to help pay for a trip in May to take my little sister to her first Disney park ever. I was thrilled to trade in my 10 day ticket for our Jan trip for an AP and when they accidentally sent me 2 AP-holder magnets I stuck both of those puppies on my Suburban proudly! I have never never understood the women who ooh and ahh over purses, but I squealed with delight when my DH got me a D&B mickey balloon purse.

Why does it have to be an either/or mentality for so many people? Why is it not possible to love all the magic that a place represents and at the same time feel like bits of that magic are being stolen away from you in the name of cold cash and hard numbers?

In a span of 2 years we have given $30,000 to Disney - they don't also get a right to my unending patience and forgiveness. I still retain my ability to think for myself, have opinions - even conflicting ones! - and put a stop to the cash flow when I feel the stress and disappointment of planning the trip is starting to outweigh the magic I feel when there.

My 6 year old with Down syndrome doesn't want to go to Disney to wander around and absorb the atmosphere - he wants to experience the rides that, in his nearly non-verbal world, immerse him in the characters and films that he loves, like Toy Story - ones he can't get at Six Flags.

We all experience the magic differently and for me the magic is mostly in watching my kids experience what's important to them. We didn't use GAC last trip because our hard work and planning meant we didn't need to even think about it; I encourage my kids to learn to meet the world half-way rather than sit back and expect accommodations. I'm happy to get 8 kids up, dressed and on that bus an hour before RD and hoof it with a newborn slung against my chest to get those precious FPs so my kids can ride TSMM two or three times. We may need to think about using DAS next time, not because we want special accommodations but because we want what we had 2 years ago. And yes, that bothers me greatly. I want to be able to give my kids the same experience we had last time with hard work and determination alone. Right now I feel forced to work hard - keeping up with these changes, spending 2 hours in the middle of the night dealing with the glitches to get our FP+s booked, trying to keep 8 kids and 2 seniors on a tight schedule that is now bound into one-hour increments I had to choose 60 days in advance of REALITY happening - and if my little guy can't ride TSMM 3x because I worked hard to get him on that ride (not because the world ACCOMMODATED us), then I'm not going to bleat like a sheep to the tune of Steamboat Willie. I'm going to be disappointed, and I'm going to take our money elsewhere.

Why some people on this board can't understand the conflicting emotions that are involved for many of us with these changes is beyond me. If you're happy with the changes, then what does it matter to you if I'm not? Perhaps it goes back to the idea that opinions that vary from our own act as a spotlight on unconscious self-doubts we ourselves harbor; I encourage you to explore that psychological aspect before making such thoughtless comments to fellow Disney-lovers.

I'll do everything I can to make this trip awesome for my kids, because we're all in now. And I will still love Disney characters and stories and all of those hard-earned magical memories we made together as a family. But I am an intelligent thinking being who is capable of experiencing multiple cognitive notions and emotions at once and I can simultaneously dislike the micromanagement being employed at the parks.

One of the best expressed posts I have read.

I'm really hoping that everyone, yes, EVERYONE on this board has a great trip to the World whenever they go. That doesn't mean I'm happy with what they are doing right now. The two are not exclusive.

 

[n2mm]

I predict long lines at RnR. My DH does RnR in the single line. As long as that stays open, I'm OK. I sure hope they increase the amount of FPs you can have in the future, or be able to split between parks if hopping. Those are my only issues.