Ticketed for a traffic violation in a Wal-Mart parking lot?

[disneymarie]

dakcp2001 wrote.....I think she should pay the ticket and be thankful for the reminder. She ran through a stop sign, so why are we even debating this? I bet if someone hit her car after running the stop sign, we'd all be demanding the offender be ticketed.

The debate is over the legality of the ticket given.

If in fact, there exists no law giving the police officer the authority to issue a ticket, the PO is then over stepping her/his authority to issue the ticket. The ticket is then null and void and should not be paid.

And again well said,
No police officer should have uniform muscles. If the officer was poorly trained, then he needs to be informed and updated.

If she had hit someone after running the sign, it would be noted there was a pedistrian right of way established by the store, (save their butt) that was not observed by the driver. She would not be ticketed for it, but driver will be sued for injuries, not the store...CYA.

 

[disneymarie]

I don't know the legal part of this OP, but just had to say something. When I took claims calls for a large insurance company, Walmart parking lot incidents were the #1 calls! WHAT is it about Walmart parking lots?

That is my retired PT job now, I am a licensed PI working special invest unit with a third party adjuster. I also do field work in my area, for the "Walmart" claims among other,

Much of my saved photos and diagrams are the parking lots claims of Walmart for 100 mile radius.....

One good one I sit and scratch my head over, unrelated to the OP sorry, but a local Walmart supercenter installed height bars to keep truckers from parking in their lot , well guess what, the fire trucks and rescue units could not fit under either,,,

Oh, Antonia I read the post you made :
It was pouring rain. The painting on the pavement was faded and she could not really see the stop bar. I even drove up there while on an errand and I could not see the stop bar. The glare of the rain on the wet pavement mede it impossible to see. And there was no sign on a post.
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Since when are Stop bars on parking lots enforceable???
There is no where in the Vehicle Code, ones I am looking at that discribes this as an enforceable traffic control device????
Stop signs are Nation wide under the same standards no matter where you travel.

Was this a security guard giving a warning,

I am about the Consitution and individual rights, no way we should give them up.
This is about the Letter of the Law, not the eye of the law....
Don't be rude, be informed.

 

[ccgirl]

My DDIL was just ticketed in a Wal-Mart parking lot for failure to come to a complete stop at one of those painted on the pavement "STOP" signs at our local Wal-Mart!
It just seems the local police would have something better to do than get Wal-Mart shoppers grazing the parking lot for a parking space!

I love when people say police have something better to do than enforcing the law. Should they have waited to do something until she hit another car and someone got hurt??? Just because someone is grazing the parking lot looking for a space does not mean they do not have to follow the rules of the road.

 

[hereyago]

Well a funny thing happened today in a parking lot. Ok, it wasn't Wally world, but a strip mall type parking lot with a curve to it that is kind of a blind spot because this area is also filled with cars.

I am in the parking lot driving slow, a pick up with some young teenage girl, passes me-yes passes me, now mind you there is a Bounce House in this strip mall and kids are out of school this week.

Luckily no kids ran outside, but she passed me about to go into this curve turn and almost hit a cop head on. He was not amused, lol. not sure if she got a ticket, but I did let him know why her truck was where it was and that she felt the need to pass me.

 

[Albort]

i finally got around in buying a dash cam... hopefully, that will help. :]

$70, protects me from scammers and hit and runs and cop judgement if im in the right...

hopefully, that would work in my favor.

 

[DaisyLynn]

That doesn't sound right. Maybe the police could not give anyone a ticket because it was private property but that shouldn't matter to the insurance. It sounds like your mother was responsible for the damage because the insurance company found her at fault, not because it was on private property.

I probably worded it funny. Because the police would not do a report because it happened on private property, my parents insurance paid...that's what it's for. There was nothing to provide to the insurance company, other than photos of a beaten in Sable. The other woman's insurance did not have to pay for the damage done to my mother's vehicle - it was never even involved. (If a report had been done, and if painted arrows and lanes were more than just a courtesy...the other woman would have been at fault. I think that is clear.)

This was also quite a few years ago. It may be handled differently today.

 

[hereyago]

i finally got around in buying a dash cam... hopefully, that will help. :]

$70, protects me from scammers and hit and runs and cop judgement if im in the right...

hopefully, that would work in my favor.

I'm a dork, I never knew private citizens could get them.

 

[Albort]

I'm a dork, I never knew private citizens could get them.

they are perfectly legal...

heres a good reason to have one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a0PtRevECE

Driver A car rolls back into dash cam driver B... They pull over, A said u hit my car, i wont call the cops if u give me $500. driver B point, look, i got it all on cam. Drive A calls cops.

Court charged him $2000 for fraud...

 

[hereyago]

they are perfectly legal...

heres a good reason to have one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a0PtRevECE

Driver A car rolls back into dash cam driver B... They pull over, A said u hit my car, i wont call the cops if u give me $500. driver B point, look, i got it all on cam. Drive A calls cops.

Court charged him $2000 for fraud...

DANG! Busted. Where do you purchase? Online?

 

[Albort]

DANG! Busted. Where do you purchase? Online?

yeah, amazon. just got it today infact. Still working on the kinks. Kinda want to mount it driver side so that it records my speed(i have a 8th gen civic so the speedometer is on top) but it obscures my view and i have to run a longer power cord to it, but for now, it sits behind my rear view mirror. :]

gonna drop mail off at the post office and test it out during the night...

 

[hereyago]

yeah, amazon. just got it today infact. Still working on the kinks. Kinda want to mount it driver side so that it records my speed(i have a 8th gen civic so the speedometer is on top) but it obscures my view and i have to run a longer power cord to it, but for now, it sits behind my rear view mirror. :]

gonna drop mail off at the post office and test it out during the night...

Thanks for the info.

 

[Jestocost]

Under NC law, "any service station, drive‑in theater, supermarket, store, restaurant, or office building, or any other business, residential, or municipal establishment providing parking space whether the business or establishment is open or closed" is considered a public vehicular area and many traffic laws can be enforced. Standards for stop signs and enforcement of failure to respect such signs does not appear to be specifically addressed one way or another. Regardless, it would seem that such violations may not typically be enforced, but that there is no prohibition against enforcement.