Ticket Increase imminent

[TiggerTrigger]

I was thinking the same thing - but what % of guests buy a 1-day ticket? Feels like this would be a lot to roll out (plus negative press to deal with) for it to not apply to multi-day as well .... just not sure how it will work

I obviously don't have access to those figures, but I'm constantly shocked at the number of people I encounter that are buying single day tickets. Then I start thinking back to my FL days and I came up with some scenarios that might factor in as well.

For starters...there are the dumb people. There's no nice way of putting this. There are people who walk up to those ticket booths each day, fail to do any reading and research (I mean, even reading the ticket details in front of them), and just buy single day tickets. A few years ago, I was talking to the mom of one of my daughter's classmates and my jaw hit the floor when I found out how much they dropped on tickets. They went on an 8-day trip, family of 6, and bought single park tickets every day rather than MYW. On top of that, they qualified for military discount, but didn't know about that either. So, like I said- dumb people.

The second, and probably most common scenario...we're in FL for other reasons and figured we'd treat the kids to a day at WDW. I know so many people who go to visit grandma in Boca or St Pete and they just pop over to WDW for a day as a perk. I'm sure it's this one that led to MK's tickets being more than the others (or at least in part), but I'm sure they're seeing a similar opportunity with Epcot during F&W or F&G. How they structure this...I don't know, but I think it comes from a similar place since a lot of locals who don't hold APs might consider a 1-day ticket to Epcot over the weekend as a fun treat.

The third one and tied into one of my scenarios above is just how many FL residents that don't have APs. I never had one when I lived there (since I was in-or just finished college and I wasn't the one earning a paycheck at the time), but we still went a few times a year as day trips. It was never at a special time...just more of a, "hey let's go to WDW on Saturday" like someone else might say let's go to the beach for the day. This was all before I introduced my parents to the fun of staying on site and the ticket options out there these days. Still, at that time, it was cheaper for us to do it this way and it suited our needs.

Like I said...I have no idea on %s and the last two scenarios fit really well into seasonal bumps in attendance, but I think they're seeing an opportunity here. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[EricInPA]

Everything I have heard or seen including the survey says you would need to buy the highest ticket if your vacation has multiple tiers going on within your visit. It is going to be interesting to see how they do the savings with multi-day tickets if they do any savings at all.

The wording in the survey linked above was "a guest would choose a 1-day ticket for each day of his or her visit, within each of the corresponding tiers." This seemed to be Touring Plans understanding of the structure presented as well.

 

[rteetz]

The wording in the survey linked above was "a guest would choose a 1-day ticket for each day of his or her visit, within each of the corresponding tiers." This seemed to be Touring Plans understanding of the structure presented as well.

That is not how I have seen it explained but we will have to wait and see.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I obviously don't have access to those figures, but I'm constantly shocked at the number of people I encounter that are buying single day tickets. Then I start thinking back to my FL days and I came up with some scenarios that might factor in as well.

For starters...there are the dumb people. There's no nice way of putting this. There are people who walk up to those ticket booths each day, fail to do any reading and research (I mean, even reading the ticket details in front of them), and just buy single day tickets. A few years ago, I was talking to the mom of one of my daughter's classmates and my jaw hit the floor when I found out how much they dropped on tickets. They went on an 8-day trip, family of 6, and bought single park tickets every day rather than MYW. On top of that, they qualified for military discount, but didn't know about that either. So, like I said- dumb people.

The second, and probably most common scenario...we're in FL for other reasons and figured we'd treat the kids to a day at WDW. I know so many people who go to visit grandma in Boca or St Pete and they just pop over to WDW for a day as a perk. I'm sure it's this one that led to MK's tickets being more than the others (or at least in part), but I'm sure they're seeing a similar opportunity with Epcot during F&W or F&G. How they structure this...I don't know, but I think it comes from a similar place since a lot of locals who don't hold APs might consider a 1-day ticket to Epcot over the weekend as a fun treat.

The third one and tied into one of my scenarios above is just how many FL residents that don't have APs. I never had one when I lived there (since I was in-or just finished college and I wasn't the one earning a paycheck at the time), but we still went a few times a year as day trips. It was never at a special time...just more of a, "hey let's go to WDW on Saturday" like someone else might say let's go to the beach for the day. This was all before I introduced my parents to the fun of staying on site and the ticket options out there these days. Still, at that time, it was cheaper for us to do it this way and it suited our needs.

Like I said...I have no idea on %s and the last two scenarios fit really well into seasonal bumps in attendance, but I think they're seeing an opportunity here. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

That does make a lot of sense, especially the 2nd category and I probably undersell the size of that group ... plus as an added bonus to Disney this could further motivate them to decide to go to a 2 or 3 day visit instead of 1 if the day they pick is a "gold" day or something and the savings get amplified if you do more than one day

 

[rteetz]

Looks like it will be one day tickets only for now...

http://www.laughingplace.com/w/news...-pricing-coming-disneyland-walt-disney-world/

 

[Princess Jes]

Looks like it will be one day tickets only for now...

http://www.laughingplace.com/w/news...-pricing-coming-disneyland-walt-disney-world/

That's definitely not how I read that article.
Until it comes from Disney, I'm not believing any of the speculation articles.

One way or the other, I'm glad I booked my package and paid the deposit yesterday!

 

[rteetz]

That's definitely not how I read that article.
Until it comes from Disney, I'm not believing any of the speculation articles.

One way or the other, I'm glad I booked my package and paid the deposit yesterday!

I understand but everything I've seen leads me to believe this is happening and happening soon. Tiered pricing is the future. And it likely only gets worse if they end up going the digital ticket book route.

 

[Princess Jes]

I understand but everything I've seen leads me to believe this is happening and happening soon. Tiered pricing is the future. And it likely only gets worse if they end up going the digital ticket book route.

There is absolutely no way that you'll only be able to buy one day tickets.
that would amount to ~$900 for an 8 day visit (assuming you go to a park every day) not to mention park hoppers.
And they wont lower the price of a one day ticket to cater for multi-day passes.

My bet is that they either wont do it at WDW due to the length of time most people are on site vs DL where you cant even buy a 5+ day pass, or it will be more like the season pricing (I think the DVC points are based on this structure) where if August is a "Value" season, you'll pay that price, and if you cross over seasons, you'll simply pay the higher price.
Eg. the base ticket will be $x and then adding days will increase on a scale based on the 1 day ticket.

Tiered ticket pricing works for places like Universal Hollywood and Shanghai because they're one, maybe 2 day parks.
Shanghai costs $x amount based on the day you'll go, and you get a % discount off adding a second day.
Places outside of WDW/Universal do this. Waterbom park in Bali, Indonesia does this type of pricing (except its the same price for your first day regardless of the date)

I'm sure they've made it work one way or the other, but I don't anticipate the overall price to increase significantly, obviously peak times will be more and there wont be a decrease on the current 1 day ticket, even for the most value of seasons (whenever that is?!)

 

[TGM]

But, there's a rumor that the tiers are only for a one-day ticket.

Anyone know if this is true?

 

[GAN]

So what's the general concensus -buy tickets this weekend? My wife and I have been talking about popping down to WDW later this year -either for F&W or the holidays. I don't mind spending the money now so that's not really an issue.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

There is absolutely no way that you'll only be able to buy one day tickets.
that would amount to ~$900 for an 8 day visit (assuming you go to a park every day) not to mention park hoppers.
And they wont lower the price of a one day ticket to cater for multi-day passes.

My bet is that they either wont do it at WDW due to the length of time most people are on site vs DL where you cant even buy a 5+ day pass, or it will be more like the season pricing (I think the DVC points are based on this structure) where if August is a "Value" season, you'll pay that price, and if you cross over seasons, you'll simply pay the higher price.
Eg. the base ticket will be $x and then adding days will increase on a scale based on the 1 day ticket.

Tiered ticket pricing works for places like Universal Hollywood and Shanghai because they're one, maybe 2 day parks.
Shanghai costs $x amount based on the day you'll go, and you get a % discount off adding a second day.
Places outside of WDW/Universal do this. Waterbom park in Bali, Indonesia does this type of pricing (except its the same price for your first day regardless of the date)

I'm sure they've made it work one way or the other, but I don't anticipate the overall price to increase significantly, obviously peak times will be more and there wont be a decrease on the current 1 day ticket, even for the most value of seasons (whenever that is?!)

I read the article that the seasonal/tiered pricing would only effect 1-day tickets. Not that you can't buy multi-day tickets, just that they wouldn't vary based on season.

So a 5-day park hopper is the same price all the time but a 1-day will vary based on season .... Further motivates buying longer stays during peak seasons

 

[TheMaxRebo]

So what's the general concensus -buy tickets this weekend? My wife and I have been talking about popping down to WDW later this year -either for F&W or the holidays. I don't mind spending the money now so that's not really an issue.

Yup, got mine earlier this week just to be safe. I mean, no real down side to buying now (other than time value of money) .... Not like they will announce prices are going down ever

 

[BRC6C]

Since APs increased recently do we think they will go up again this week-end? Not going till July, but could buy now.

 

[rteetz]

So what's the general concensus -buy tickets this weekend? My wife and I have been talking about popping down to WDW later this year -either for F&W or the holidays. I don't mind spending the money now so that's not really an issue.

The ticket increase is supposedly happening Sunday so if you want to buy I'd do it today.

 

[SorcererHeidi]

So what's the general concensus -buy tickets this weekend? My wife and I have been talking about popping down to WDW later this year -either for F&W or the holidays. I don't mind spending the money now so that's not really an issue.

That's what I did with my Federal income tax refund last year, before the "no expiration option" went away, and I advised quite a few friends to do the same. The ones that didn't have all told me now they're jealous of me having 10-day-park-hopping-no-expiration tickets in hand, even though I don't know when my next trip is!

 

[rteetz]

But, there's a rumor that the tiers are only for a one-day ticket.

Anyone know if this is true?

That's what is being discussed in this thread.

 

[limabeanmom2003]

I read the article that the seasonal/tiered pricing would only effect 1-day tickets. Not that you can't buy multi-day tickets, just that they wouldn't vary based on season.

So a 5-day park hopper is the same price all the time but a 1-day will vary based on season .... Further motivates buying longer stays during peak seasons

This makes more sense to me. I hope this is what we end up seeing.

 

[rteetz]

I read the article that the seasonal/tiered pricing would only effect 1-day tickets. Not that you can't buy multi-day tickets, just that they wouldn't vary based on season.

So a 5-day park hopper is the same price all the time but a 1-day will vary based on season .... Further motivates buying longer stays during peak seasons

From what I've read it seems Disney will eventually try and make multi-day tickets tiered as well but are just starting with one-day tickets.

 

[SorcererHeidi]

Yup, got mine earlier this week just to be safe. I mean, no real down side to buying now (other than time value of money) .... Not like they will announce prices are going down ever[/QUOTE

Agreed Max (as usual) , was my line of thinking last year when I bought mine that I posted a moment ago, and I've not regretted the decision for an instant!

 

[rteetz]

Since APs increased recently do we think they will go up again this week-end? Not going till July, but could buy now.

No they are not supposed to be going up right now but you never know with Disney.