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[anniemae]

The bloody car seat is not proof enough for me either about Judith. I am really thinking she is alive.

I think the Gov. went a little crazy at Rick's speech and that is why he blew up the prison, knowing it would be ruined. Rick even said, "Either we all live here or nobody lives here." Since Ricks group was not willing to walk away, that is why the Gov got frustrated and killed Herschel, in essence starting the war.

I was SOOOO glad Mitch was killed. Totally hated him! What did Rick mean when he looked at Mitch and said, "I fought him before and some of his men are living with us and are good men." Totally confused on that one.

 

[lovin'fl]

EDITED at 3:10 on 12/2 after re-watching the episode:
Watched with my DD-14 and she was yelling at Lily for letting Megan play by the woods and so far away from her. That was just plain stupid.

I thought Bob had booze in his box, but now I too am thinking it's rats and I think he found the box. I think it's Lizzie and I think she killed the sick people too and Carol took the blame for her.

That scene with Herschel was shocking and horrible...poor Maggie and Beth having to watch that. I will miss him...so sad.

I love that Michone left the Gov to suffer.

I don't think Judith is dead...not sure who has her but my DD kept saying that Beth had her somewhere (we never did see where Beth went). I can't believe that Rick and Carl would leave so easily without looking around for her more. They just saw that carseat and were like 'yup, she's dead...let's get out of here'...I was yelling at them to go look for her. They were upset but accepted her being dead too easily.

So, here's what we know:

Glen is on the bus.
Sasha, Maggie, Bob, Michone, Tyrese and the 4 kids were all still fighting when the bus left. They are on foot. Any of them may have grabbed up Judith.
Rick and Carl walked off into the woods...so they are on foot. They think Judith is dead.
Lily and Tara are still alive. Lily is on foot but not sure where Tara is. Tara gave up right before the bus took off, is she on the bus?
Daryl and Beth are alive and on foot. They don't have Judith.
Where is Judith? Could Lily have gotten her out of the carseat (she was all bloody too) and put her somewhere before she shot the Gov? Tara could have grabbed her but she's not bloody.

Cannot wait for February!!!

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

I think the group is going to find each other, and then find another safe spot, which turns out to be occupied by Carol.

 

[indimom]

I think the group is going to find each other, and then find another safe spot, which turns out to be occupied by Carol.

That's a good thought. If they had a backup location planned, Carol would have known it, and may have decided to take up residence there when Rick kicked her out.

 

[lovin'fl]

What did Rick mean when he looked at Mitch and said, "I fought him before and some of his men are living with us and are good men." Totally confused on that one.

He meant he fought the Gov before. The people from Woodbury who now live at the prison are the good men...which contradicts what the Gov told his people (that those living in the prison are bad people).

 

[skylizard]

He meant he fought the Gov before. The people from Woodbury who now live at the prison are the good men...which contradicts what the Gov told his people (that those living in the prison are bad people).

I was surprised that even after hearing all that, people still fought beside the governor. It seemed as though only one of them (sorry don't remember her name) had enough sense to realize what he was doing was wrong. Everyone else was so quick to shoot at Rick's group even after Rick said they could all live in the prison.

 

[elgerber]

I was surprised that even after hearing all that, people still fought beside the governor. It seemed as though only one of them (sorry don't remember her name) had enough sense to realize what he was doing was wrong. Everyone else was so quick to shoot at Rick's group even after Rick said they could all live in the prison.

I think even Mitch was questioning it, but once the prison people started firing at them (and they did fire first, for good reason) that all that went out the window.

 

[Ginny Favers]

I think Judith is dead. I think that the producers WOULD shy away from showing baby body parts all over the ground, because not even the most gory show would go there. This was their way out. Rick seemed to be crying in an awfully final way, which I didn't get, because a bloody carseat wouldn't be enough to convince me my kid was dead.

There has long been talk about someone being "Tyreesed" (beheaded, as Tyreese was beheaded in the comics), so I know a lot of people were expecting this death. I know the second Hershel smiled, it was all over, and was shielding my eyes. But again, it's another really grisly thing and so the producers chose to show most of it off-camera.

I loved Daryl's reaction to the Carol news. He even said Carol doesn't have that in her. I think that we will soon find out that Lizzie was the culprit.

I also didn't understand why Lily kept looking toward the water. I would have been looking behind me. And I would have had my kid on the top of the trailer with me.

I also was expecting the Governor's death but thought it might be drawn out, considering they devoted two whole episodes to him and only him. I am glad to see him gone, but surprised Michonne didn't finish the job. I'm happy to see that they'll finally be moving on from the prison.

 

[HonnyDipp]

I don't think Judith is dead. I agree, I'm glad they didn't show the actual attack. But come on, this is the Walking Dead. There should have been an extra bloody walker near her car seat. There should have been alot more then just a bloody car seat.

Judith wasn't even mentioned in the "In Memoriam" of last nights Talking Dead. Chris said she wasn't added because they didn't know if she was dead. Of course Robert Kirkman danced around the issue, but I still think she's alive.

 

[wiigirl]

I think the group is going to find each other, and then find another safe spot, which turns out to be occupied by Carol.

I agree....

 

[pitterpint23]

It just hit me...Is Hershel's head still alive? You know the Governor and his keepsakes.

Holy wow.

I saw that herd and was so happy for someone to get eaten. She didn't kill him so he would suffer. I love it.

I'm a bit morbid?!

 

[pitterpint23]

Myka. I forgot her name.

I think Lizzie may have killed their mother and that was the whole thing about her being strong but being messed up.

Or someone was killed by her.

 

[pitterpint23]

Oh and by the way am i the only one who thinks Lizzie wasn't really sick???

 

[HonnyDipp]

Holy wow.

I saw that herd and was so happy for someone to get eaten. She didn't kill him so he would suffer. I love it.

I'm a bit morbid?!

Not at all. I wanted her to drag him directly to the walkers. Martinez would have loved that.

I havent thought about Lizzy not being sick, however I do think she was the one feeding the rats to the walkers. So I guess it would make sense.

 

[elgerber]

If she wasn't sick, why the heck would she want to be in death row with all the people who were dying?

 

[pitterpint23]

We've never seen her cough like the others except when asked how she was feeling .

 

[pitterpint23]

If she wasn't sick, why the heck would she want to be in death row with all the people who were dying?

Because she wanted to stop the sickness from spreading just like everyone thinks she was killing the infected

 

[pitterpint23]

And she wouldn't have Carol down her back when she was trying to do it?

 

[tajz90]

I think Judith is dead. I think that the producers WOULD shy away from showing baby body parts all over the ground, because not even the most gory show would go there. This was their way out. Rick seemed to be crying in an awfully final way, which I didn't get, because a bloody carseat wouldn't be enough to convince me my kid was dead.

The car seat could have been facing away with a walker crouched over it, a walker dragging the cars seat or even Beth rocking back and forth near the car seat to show death. The producers wouldn't have to show baby body parts.

Rick crying just means HE believes it. She's not dead.

 

[HonnyDipp]

I was reading a message board. Someone mentioned that Tyrse was holding something when he was shown running away when the walkway was bombed. He was in the area the kids were in, because Lizzy saved his life. Afterwards, we saw Michonne stab the Governor. Then we see a quick shot of the exploding walk way and Tyrese was running underneath, it looked like he was holding something. Was it Judith? If you're able, go back and watch. I just did. It hard to tell, but it does look like he has something in his arms.