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[Heidict]

Judith is in the other promo with Tyrese, and the person on the tracks, so I must assume that one of them is wearing her. They look pretty calm in the scene where they are all on the tracks, and I think they would look a little more tense and upset if a baby just died.

At least we can assume Carol lives, since she is on the Talking Dead this week!

I was screaming at the TV "NO" when Tyrese gave Lizzie the baby to hold. I fear for Judith when Lizzie is near her. Something is seriously wrong with that girl.

 

[It'sWDW4me]

Judith is in the other promo with Tyrese, and the person on the tracks, so I must assume that one of them is wearing her. They look pretty calm in the scene where they are all on the tracks, and I think they would look a little more tense and upset if a baby just died.

At least we can assume Carol lives, since she is on the Talking Dead this week!

Just off the top of my head... both T-Dog and Hershel were on TD on the nights they died. Hoping Carol isn't next. Lizzie can go.

 

[elgerber]

Just off the top of my head... both T-Dog and Hershel were on TD on the nights they died. Hoping Carol isn't next. Lizzie can go.

Yes, all major characters are on the TD the night they have died, but they don't announce them in advance. They say a special guest cast member will be on. And they said on the last show that Melissa McBride will be on next week.

 

[toystory1130]

I was thinking it was Glenn on the tracks.

I think Carol was crying because she has to sacrifice one of the kids for some reason. It was either Lizzie or Mica, but they were on the ground in the preview screaming "Carol!" while being dragged away by a walker.

I think they want us to believe that from the previews but sometimes they do that to trick us too.

 

[jenny105]

I'm with you about Carl, but Beth has grown on me. I hate that she and Daryl are separated now, because I liked the way he was softening and warming up to her. That said, I'm really sick of the bits and pieces we've been getting in this half of the season. Yes, it's nice that there's been more character development and some back stories, but it's taking way too long for the plot to develop. Now there are just a few episodes left in the season, and then they'll leave us with a cliff hanger until next October. I can't take it I tell ya!!!

I'm with you! When they showed the preview and were like 'only 3 episodes left' I couldn't believe it! That's it?? Nothing has happened lol.

 

[Heidict]

Couple of questions. A couple of episodes back when Rick was in the house and "the bad guys" show up, who was the guy in the bathroom?

Rick is sound asleep in bed and is awakened by the sounds the guys arguing downstairs. He hears boots on the stairs and scrambles under the bed. Len comes up stairs, looks around and lays down on the bed and falls asleep. Just as Rick gets ready to escape another guy comes up.

This is the guy who fights with Len and collapses in front of Rick. Len then lays back down and falls back asleep. Rick escapes and ends up in a kids room, hiding, because Joe has just came up the stairs and is getting Len to come downstairs with him.

At no time did anyone else come up the stairs. If he isn't part of the gang, who is he? Has to be part of the gang but when did he get up there? Also, he was fully clothed and sitting on a closed toilet.

Secondly, the guy that Len beat up in the bedroom, is he dead or just knocked out? The answer to this question could tell us if scene with Daryl meeting the guys in the road happens before or after the scene in the house.

 

[It'sWDW4me]

Yes, all major characters are on the TD the night they have died, but they don't announce them in advance. They say a special guest cast member will be on. And they said on the last show that Melissa McBride will be on next week.

True!

 

[skylizard]

I finally was able to get the first book from the library this past weekend. I'm about 2/3 of the way through and all I can say is holy cow. The book is so much darker than the show. Has anyone else read it yet?

 

[Ginny Favers]

Yes, all major characters are on the TD the night they have died, but they don't announce them in advance. They say a special guest cast member will be on. And they said on the last show that Melissa McBride will be on next week.

Let's not forget that they had David Morrissey on the show the week BEFORE he died, and he was talking about all these things that could possibly happen in the future with the Governor. He didn't let on one little bit that he would die in the next episode.

 

[jetskigrl]

I finally was able to get the first book from the library this past weekend. I'm about 2/3 of the way through and all I can say is holy cow. The book is so much darker than the show. Has anyone else read it yet?

I have books one and two sitting on my dressing but I'm avoiding them until after the season is over. I'm hoping they will serve as a bit of a filler while I am waiting for the next season. Although once I start reading them, I'm sure I'll be done with them really quick

 

[quigs3]

I have books one and two sitting on my dressing but I'm avoiding them until after the season is over. I'm hoping they will serve as a bit of a filler while I am waiting for the next season. Although once I start reading them, I'm sure I'll be done with them really quick

That's a great idea! I just bought them online and was going to start reading them this weekend, but now I think I'll wait until this season is over. Than at least I can get my fix during the summer hiatus.

 

[Colleen27]

I finally was able to get the first book from the library this past weekend. I'm about 2/3 of the way through and all I can say is holy cow. The book is so much darker than the show. Has anyone else read it yet?

Yep. And yes, much, much darker. Often in ways that couldn't ever be part of the show unless it moves to HBO. I've read all of the comics up to volume 19/issue 114 (volume 20 just released this week and I'm waiting for UPS to bring it to me... should be today!) and three of the four Governor backstory/prequel novels (the last of which should also be here today). It is, in many ways, an entirely different story than the show and I love that. Usually when I get into a series of books and the TV show I end up losing interest in one or the other because they're telling the same story. But with The Walking Dead I'm still keeping up with both; it is almost like two storylines set in the same world rather than the same story told in two different mediums.

 

[Ginny Favers]

Someone just sent me spoilers for the next episode entitled The Grove, and all I have to say is: Totally brutal. And VERY dark. I kind of wish I hadn't looked.

 

[anniemae]

I also read the spoiler re-cap of the episode. I can't help myself!

 

[wdhinn89]

I read spoilers of the show last week and it totally ruined it for me. Trying to keep away this week.

 

[Oh Hia]

Someone just sent me spoilers for the next episode entitled The Grove, and all I have to say is: Totally brutal. And VERY dark. I kind of wish I hadn't looked.

Would you mind sending me the spoilers? I've looked everywhere and can't find anything online!

 

[KennesawNemo]

Would you mind sending me the spoilers? I've looked everywhere and can't find anything online!

I would love the spoiler too!

 

[skylizard]

I would love the spoiler too!

I haven't even read the spoiler yet, but here it is. I'm trying to hold back from reading it so I'm copying it in white for those that don't want to read it either.

Spoilthedead.com just posted the following:

The episode opens with the dream-like scene we saw in the sneak peek of Lizzie playing tag with a walker.

Credits.


- It's night time and we see Carol, holding Judith and sitting with Lizzie. They are keeping watch while Tyreese and Mika are sleeping. In the background, we hear Tyreese dreaming, seemingly having a nightmare as he protests in his sleep. Carol and Lizzie talk about this world, how it's changed and what the girls must do now to survive. Carol mentions Sophia, her death, how she didn't have a bad bone in her body.


- The next day, the group is walking the tracks again.

- Carol and Tyreese discuss the girls, Carol sharing that she's concerned that Lizzie doesn't really understand how dangerous the walkers are, but that she worries more for Mika, reiterating what she said about Sophia, that Mika doesn't have a bad bone in her body. The group smells a fire in the distance, but guess that it's likely a distance away.


- Tyreese waits with Lizzie and Judith while Carol and Mika go searching for supplies. Like in the other sneak peek we saw, Tyreese spots a walker in the distance, stumbling on the tracks and approaches it.

The walker trips on the tracks, losing its legs. When Tyreese goes to kill the walker, Lizzie begs him to stop, saying that sometimes they don't have to kill the walkers.


- While Carol and Mika are supply searching, they discuss Sophia. Carol tells her that it's not just walkers Mika has to be prepared for, it's people too, and there may come a time when she'd have to kill someone. Mika says she can't, that she'll just run. Carol tells Mika that Sophia ran too, but it wasn't enough.


- Carol and Mika discover a house in a grove. It's surrounded by nuts, fruit, and a small fence. The group decides to take shelter here. While Tyreese and Carol clear the house, the girls keep guard outside with Judith. They are attacked by a walker, but Mika shoots it. The adults come running out and comfort a hysterical Lizzie. As the group spends time at this new house in the grove, Tyreese suggest that maybe they could just stay here and not continue on to Sanctuary.


- While out, Mika sees the black smoke of a fire in the distance, telling Carol that the fire must still be burning. If it was out, the smoke would be white. They try to shoot a deer, but Mika can't do it. We then see the same opening scene of Lizzie playing tag with the walker, but it no longer has the dream-like quality. It's real and Carol is boiling water and looking outside to the garden when she spots Lizzie with the walker. Carol rushes out and kills it. Lizzie once again goes hysterical, declaring that killing a walker is the same as killing a person and that the walker just wanted to play with her. Carol and Tyreese are shocked.


- Later, Mika discovers Lizzie back on the tracks with the walker that lost its legs and sees Lizzie feeding the walker a rat. Lizzie tells Mika that she's been thinking about letting the walker bite her so she can be just like them. Walkers, blackened from the fire, interrupt the sisters and the girls run.

They hurry back to the house and through the fence, but Mika gets stuck. She's almost bitten, but the group saves her and the walkers are killed. Carol compliments Lizzie for protecting the group and killing walkers.

- Tyreese and Carol walk together and discuss this new world. Tyreese tells Carol he's been having dreams about Karen and that he thinks that the world is haunted now. Carol tells him that the dead are all with them now and make them who they are. When Tyreese and Carol return from their walk, they discover Lizzie, standing there with a bloodied knife and hands and Mika, dead on the ground behind her. Judith is alive, crawling on a blanket. Lizzie tells them that she was just making Mika into a walker and Judith was next.


- Tyreese and Carol try to get the knife from Lizzie, but she pulls out a gun and makes them promise to wait and let Mika turn. Carol agrees, tying Mika up, and then sends Lizzie inside with Tyreese and Judith. After they leave, Carol breaks down. Later that night, Tyreese and Carol talk about what they need to do. Tyreese tells Carol that he found a shoebox full of mice and that Lizzie was feeding the walkers at the prison, too. He also thinks that Lizzie killed Karen. Carol disagrees, saying that if Lizzie had, she would've let Karen turn.


- Tyreese and Carol finally decide that Lizzie can't be around people and both understand what that will entail. In the morning, as Tyreese watches from the window, Carol and Lizzie walk out to the garden. In the distance, the smoke from the fire is white now. Lizzie thinks that Carol is upset at her for pulling the gun the day before, but Carol assures her that she isn't. Lizzie cries. Carol, remembering Mika's words to Lizzie when their father had died, tells her to look at the flowers. As Lizzie looks away, Carol draws her gun and shoots her. Tyreese continues to watch from the window as Carol breaks down again.


- The sisters are buried beside the dead children of this house in the grove.



- That night, Carol pushes the gun across the table to Tyreese and tells him that she'd killed Karen in an effort to protect her people. Tyreese puts his hand on the gun, gripping it, and Carol tells him to do what he has to do. Eventually, he asks Carol if it was quick and she says it was. He then tells her that he forgives her, but won't forget. The dead are part of who they are now.


- They decide they can't stay at the grove any longer. The next day, they leave, passing the graves, passing the walker still trapped on the tracks, and continue on the path to Sanctuary. As they leave, we hear a voiceover of Carol and one of her lessons to the children during their knife class.

 

[Oh Hia]

I haven't even read the spoiler yet, but here it is. I'm trying to hold back from reading it so I'm copying it in white for those that don't want to read it either.[/COLOR]

Whoa...not what I was expecting. Thank you for the recap!

 

[elgerber]

Please, if anyone quotes that, make sure to delete the spoiler before you hit submit. I don't want to see any spoilers, I like to see things as they happen and they do "spoil' things for for me.