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I had a feeling that Lizzie would have to be dealt with. Poor Mika.

This was a good episode and felt all too real. That is if a zombie apocalypse was to happen of course.
 
Wow....just wow!!!!

Yeah, I'm in agreement about leaving the kids alone. I was thinking that when Carol and Tyreese were walking back. How could they have left them alone at the house? Not just Lizzie, but what if a herd of walkers came through?

But Wow (again, LOL), that was hard to watch.
 
First thing I said was "Where's the kids" when they were walking through the trees??? Why did they leave them alone!
Lizzie say's "I know what I have to do now" ~why didn't Carol think to ASK what she was talking about?? Geez
And DH also thought that fire burning was the cabin.

If you were Carol would you have confessed??
 
If you were Carol would you have confessed??

Probably. After all the stress of that, one more burden to carry was probably too much too bear. And part of her probably wanted Tyrese to end it for her after what she had to do.
I'm sure they never in a million years thought Lizzie would kill her own sister, no matter how crazy. And no one but us actually saw her try to kill Judith.

We also assumed all the smoke was from the cabin.
Only 2 episodes left, this season is not going to end well, clearly. Will anyone even find each other before this is over?
 

If you were Carol would you have confessed??

Yeah, I would have. I would have begged him to shoot me...what Carol has had to bear is just too much.

I am glad she didn't confess to Tyrese when they went on that walk. I thought she was going to and was yelling "don't do it" at the TV. It would have ended very differently had she confessed then. Tyrese and Judith would be all alone.

After the Mika scene, I would have let a walker get Lizzie. She thought they were tame and wouldn't hurt her. I might have said...'okay Lizzie...show us how nice they are' and let her hug one.
 
Wow, what an episode!!!

I do feel that Lizzie had to go, for the safety of the rest of the group. To kill your own sister? Pretty mentally disturbed :(

Did anyone watch The Talking Dead?? I wonder what was going on with Melissa McBride? She was very quiet, almost depressed or that her thoughts were somewhere else. Several times she wiped under her eyes, like she was wiping tears away. Thoughts anyone?

Below is copied from The Examiner, because it would allow me to post a link......


The latest episode of “The Walking Dead” was shocking. To help sort through all of the “emotion” of “The Grove,” Melissa McBride, who portrays Carol, appeared on “The Talking Dead.” During that episode, which aired on March 16, Melissa McBride appeared upset.

“The Grove” answered a lot of questions that had been haunting fans of “The Walking Dead.” It was revealed that it was Lizzie who had been feeding rats to the walkers at the prison. It revealed it was Lizzie that mutilated the rats. It also showed Carol admitting to killing Karen and Dave. It also revealed that Carol could do whatever it took to survive, including killing a child that had been left in her care.

Melissa McBride remained quite somber throughout the entire episode of “The Talking Dead.” She only smiled a few times and she rarely left. She talked about the episode, taking much of what happened during “The Grove” very personally. At times, McBride appeared to wipe tears from her eyes.

“It was dark,” Melissa McBride stated during “The Talking Dead.” The actress was referring to the episode, “The Grove.”

Even the other guests and host appeared much more melancholy than they normally would be. There was much less joking and laughing than in other episodes. Even the live studio audience were not in their normal high spirits.

The latest episode of “The Walking Dead” was dark. Many fans found it difficult to watch. The creator of “The Walking Dead” had billed “The Grove” as the one episode not to miss. He was certainly correct; it was not an episode to miss.
 
I think that's exactly what it was. In my head, I picture all of them basically going in circles to some extent, having no clue how close they are to other members of the group. I don't think they had a chance to scatter very far, but I could be wrong.

I agree with this, I think they are very close to one another

Once again I can't get over how adults would leave children unattended. Reminds me of Lori. Tyrese and Carol both witnessed strange behavior from Lizzie, but did not hesitate to leave her alone with the younger kids multiple times.

It was obvious that Lizzie suffered from something long ago, but no one asked Mika, or even Lizzie about it. Who would leave a child a gun after that scary conversation that night?

I think Tyrese said it later, they both observed strange behavior from Lizzie but when they talked about together they realized how bad she was. ANd neither of them saw her try to smother Judith.
 
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I have not yet watched the Talking Dead, and geez, not sure when we can. We usually watch on Monday, but dd has a choir concert tonight, then dress rehearsal Tues/Wed and musical perfomances Thur-Sun. Geez, we might not get to watch it until mid-next week.
I do get the intro though right after TWD, and I noticed that Chris was very subdued compared to his usual self when the show starts. It would be hard to be all up and silly after just watching an episode like that.
 
I noticed too that Melissa was kind of "off" during TD. Maybe she is going to be killed off in the finale? I know when the actress who plays Andrea was on TD one time, she was very somber and kind of weepy. Then she was killed of a few weeks later. She went back on the the TD after she was killed off and Chris Hartwick was like, "OHHHH that's why you were so sad the last time you were here!"

I think in this zombie world, kids have to grow up fast and learn to do "adult" things, like use a knife and a gun etc. I think Ty and Carol went off to find a deer for food. Maybe they needed both of them to hunt so they left Lizzie and Mica with Judith for a bit. I think they both knew something was off with Lizzie, but not to that extent.

I think it was good that Carol confessed, if she didn't maybe she knew that if they found the rest of the group at Terminus, Rick would tell Ty. It changed things between them, they were like a happy family when they found the house and contemplated making a life there. Then when everything went down, they were like, "we need to leave."
 
Yeah, there was something going on with TD. My husband said, "Wait, is Chris Hartwick crying?" Everyone seemed melancholy. Yes, it was a heavy episode, but it's only a television show, people. I don't know about MMB... maybe she's always like that?... but Chris was definitely different.

I didn't get them leaving the kids alone as much as they did, either. But I did agree that Lizzie had to go after what she did.

I ruined that episode for myself by reading the spoilers. I didn't get to enjoy it because I kept counting down the moments to the murder scene. I'm not doing that again. Looking forward to the next episode... looks like Rick and Daryl will be in that one.
 
I totally ruined the episode too by reading the spoiler. I knew exactly what was going to happen and it took some of the emotion and surprise element from it.

When the showed a promo for the TD at the very end of WD, it looked like the male guest was crying. Did anyone catch that? It was at the very end of WD when Chris comes on and says, "stay tuned for TD, we have a lot to talk about with my guests Melissa McBride and......"

Then they showed the guest panel and they were all holding hands and they male guest was wiping his eyes and looking down and the lady next to him was clutching his hands and.... I don't know it was so weird. I get that it was a heavy episode and two children were killed off the show, but I turned to my hubby and said, "I think that guy is crying, he does know those kids aren't REALLY dead right? It's just a t.v. show" I think maybe it was because I read the spoilers that it was not such a shock to me and I had time to digest it. Never again.
 
I totally ruined the episode too by reading the spoiler. I knew exactly what was going to happen and it took some of the emotion and surprise element from it.

When the showed a promo for the TD at the very end of WD, it looked like the male guest was crying. Did anyone catch that? It was at the very end of WD when Chris comes on and says, "stay tuned for TD, we have a lot to talk about with my guests Melissa McBride and......"

Then they showed the guest panel and they were all holding hands and they male guest was wiping his eyes and looking down and the lady next to him was clutching his hands and.... I don't know it was so weird. I get that it was a heavy episode and two children were killed off the show, but I turned to my hubby and said, "I think that guy is crying, he does know those kids aren't REALLY dead right? It's just a t.v. show" I think maybe it was because I read the spoilers that it was not such a shock to me and I had time to digest it. Never again.

Exactly... I felt a little meh about the whole thing. But yeah, that male guest was crying, too! And they all looked shell-shocked, like it happened for real. Obviously THEY didn't read the spoilers!!
 
I too wondered about Melissa McBride being very quiet and sad during TD. I'm hoping it was just the aftermath of that episode and the intensity affecting eveyone. I hope she's not going to be leaving the show any time soon. Did anyone else hear her talking about how Judith was her second chance at raising a girl and she wouldn't make the same mistakes she made before? I think she was hinting at her sticking around for a while.
 
i'm a new walker and loving the programme. Had a Sky On Demand session and went through 1-3 seasons in a week. Bit behind, only on episode 7 season 4.
 
I too wondered about Melissa McBride being very quiet and sad during TD. I'm hoping it was just the aftermath of that episode and the intensity affecting eveyone. I hope she's not going to be leaving the show any time soon. Did anyone else hear her talking about how Judith was her second chance at raising a girl and she wouldn't make the same mistakes she made before? I think she was hinting at her sticking around for a while.

I'm hoping that, too. I imagine as an actor one has to dig within themselves to convincingly portray such emotions. I hope they have Carol stick around, as she's a character that has grown the most during the series (JMHO).
 
First thing I said was "Where's the kids" when they were walking through the trees??? Why did they leave them alone!
Lizzie say's "I know what I have to do now" ~why didn't Carol think to ASK what she was talking about?? Geez
And DH also thought that fire burning was the cabin.

If you were Carol would you have confessed??

I think she had to at that point. Too much of a burden to carry that around with her after everything else that just happened. And I'm not surprised that Tyrese forgave her either. He saw first hand that sometimes those decisions needed to be made and then carried out. So I think he understood why Carol did it (like he said, "I will never forget but I will forgive").

Probably. After all the stress of that, one more burden to carry was probably too much too bear. And part of her probably wanted Tyrese to end it for her after what she had to do.
I'm sure they never in a million years thought Lizzie would kill her own sister, no matter how crazy. And no one but us actually saw her try to kill Judith.

We also assumed all the smoke was from the cabin.
Only 2 episodes left, this season is not going to end well, clearly. Will anyone even find each other before this is over?

I sure hope they meet up again before the end of the season. I get the point of showing how separated they all are, but I don't care for the format. It is too disjointed. I really hope they don't leave us hanging (with them all still separated) until next season.

Yeah, I would have. I would have begged him to shoot me...what Carol has had to bear is just too much.

I am glad she didn't confess to Tyrese when they went on that walk. I thought she was going to and was yelling "don't do it" at the TV. It would have ended very differently had she confessed then. Tyrese and Judith would be all alone.

After the Mika scene, I would have let a walker get Lizzie. She thought they were tame and wouldn't hurt her. I might have said...'okay Lizzie...show us how nice they are' and let her hug one.

We were doing the same thing. We were saying that they should have left Lizzie with Mika and then she would have realized that they are not human anymore when they come back.

Wow, what an episode!!!

I do feel that Lizzie had to go, for the safety of the rest of the group. To kill your own sister? Pretty mentally disturbed :(

Did anyone watch The Talking Dead?? I wonder what was going on with Melissa McBride? She was very quiet, almost depressed or that her thoughts were somewhere else. Several times she wiped under her eyes, like she was wiping tears away. Thoughts anyone?

I definitely caught that too. I hope it was just that it was hard to rewatch that episode (as I'm sure she got attached to the actors that played the kids too). I hope it doesn't mean that she will be gone from the show soon too.
 
There is no way carol would have let Lizzie suffer by letting her get eaten. Maybe an evil adult but not a child. She wanted it to be as quick and painless as she could. I can't even imagine having to deal with that. It was so awful.
 
Wow, that was intense! It was heart breaking to see Lizzie had killed Mika. AND then she goes to say Judith was next! I also didn't understand why Carol & Ty left them alone knowing Lizzie liked the walkers. She could have let one in the house.
It was a good thing Carol didn't confess to Ty earlier. I also think he would have felt differently at that time. After seeing what Carol had to do w/Lizzie, that helped him to understand that Carol is not a vicious person & he was able to forgive her easier. I also feel she was ready for Ty to shoot her too after what she just had to do. I think that was one of the worst things anyone would experience even in the zombie apocalypse.
Dh & I feel Carol will be gone. She was upset on Talking Dead & yes that epi was an emotional one, but she filmed that months ago. I understand about feeling the intensity of the epi right after watching it, but she continued to be upset thru all of Talking Dead. I think she was sad b/c she's done on the show. Aren't there rumors that a big character will die in this finale? On Talking Dead, she made a quiet comment about this experience changing Carol & how she is w/Judith. I wonder how that will play out. Maybe she will sacrifice herself for Judith?
 
There is no way carol would have let Lizzie suffer by letting her get eaten. Maybe an evil adult but not a child. She wanted it to be as quick and painless as she could. I can't even imagine having to deal with that. It was so awful.

I didn't mean that she should have let Mika eat Lizzie. But just let her see that it was no longer her sister anymore. But then again, Lizzie was playing tag with that other one and probably would not have noticed any difference between Mika and the one she was playing with at the beginning. In Lizzie's mind, Mika would be just the same as before :sad1:

Also I'm sure Carol could never have let Mika come back anyway. She handled it the only way something so horrible could be handled. I guess she could have left with Lizzie and stayed away from other people, but in doing so, that would have left Tyrese alone with a baby and she couldn't do that either. Such a horrible decision to have to make.
 
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