The Villas at Disney's Grand Californian Owners Group

[DVCGeek]

I can't wait to go home to GCV and see my new walkway "tile" @ DLR, it will TRULY be a magical trip!!

Same here! I didn't get my replica yet, I think it is supposed to arrive in October and the real one installed in November. Just TRYING to wait at least semi-patiently until October 2010 for my first VGC trip... At least I have 3 WDW trips between now and then. In fact, I just bought my first annual passes. In the past I always used MYW no expiration Park Hoppers... DVC discounts are cool! That'll help tide me over!

 

[forevercruising]

Same here! I didn't get my replica yet, I think it is supposed to arrive in October and the real one installed in November.

Hey, LionQueen and DVCGeek!

What did you both decide to put on your bricks? Did you include the date you became owners at VGC? We are still deciding and, since the options are somewhat limited, it might help us to know what others have chosen!

Thanks much!

 

[DVCGeek]

We:

The <lastname>'s
Anaheim, CA
April 18, 2009

DW wanted the " 's "; it shows ownership of our little piece of Anaheim real-estate. THE CM thought it sounded a little funny, but of course let us do it. The date is when I signed our final VGC contract (I ammended my 40 pointer to be 50 so I could take advantage of the first tier price incentives available at the time).

 

[DVCGeek]

Just searched the California Orange County website and my Grant Deed for VGC is showing as recorded 06-29-2009 along with something like 1800 others on various dates from Disney. Has anyone received back their paper copies of the recorded documents yet? I have NOT as of saturday's mail at least... BTW, the website is: http://cr.ocgov.com/grantorgrantee/index.asp

 

[toocherie]

Just searched the California Orange County website and my Grant Deed for VGC is showing as recorded 06-29-2009 along with something like 1800 others on various dates from Disney. Has anyone received back their paper copies of the recorded documents yet? I have NOT as of saturday's mail at least... BTW, the website is: http://cr.ocgov.com/grantorgrantee/index.asp

I think I got mine on Saturday--it looks like it at least. I haven't opened it yet.

 

[minniemoms]

I got mine either Friday or Saturday...
I still fell so bad that I didn't wait to buy my points. So much better now.

 

[SoCalKDG]

Just searched the California Orange County website and my Grant Deed for VGC is showing as recorded 06-29-2009 along with something like 1800 others on various dates from Disney. Has anyone received back their paper copies of the recorded documents yet? I have NOT as of saturday's mail at least... BTW, the website is: http://cr.ocgov.com/grantorgrantee/index.asp

48 2 bedrooms and Grand Villas gives us approx. 2500 units per year and approx. 1,000,000 points. If everyone bought an ave. of 200 points we get 1805 X 200 = 361k, or 36% sold. Now it looks like the recording happens 1-2 months after purchase, thus we might be at around 45% sold. No matter what it looks like there is still a large amount of points available and should last the rest of the year. Or not.

 

[tjkraz]

48 2 bedrooms and Grand Villas gives us approx. 2500 units per year and approx. 1,000,000 points. If everyone bought an ave. of 200 points we get 1805 X 200 = 361k, or 36% sold. Now it looks like the recording happens 1-2 months after purchase, thus we might be at around 45% sold. No matter what it looks like there is still a large amount of points available and should last the rest of the year. Or not.

I think the sold numbers may be far smaller.

Performing a wide open search yields multiple results for for a single contract. It may have something to do with financing the purchase. In terms of the actual contracts recorded, I came up with only 948 thru June 30. And that includes multiple contracts for single individuals. I know someone who bought about 200 points and split it over 3 contracts. He is listed 3 times in those 948 records.

So I think the total number of contracts sold is far less than the 1800 that DVCGeek mentioned and the average points per contract may be less than 200 if people are routinely splitting their large contracts (impossible to tell on that second point, though.)

Really surprising numbers, IMO.

 

[nunzia]

Just searched the California Orange County website and my Grant Deed for VGC is showing as recorded 06-29-2009 along with something like 1800 others on various dates from Disney. Has anyone received back their paper copies of the recorded documents yet? I have NOT as of saturday's mail at least... BTW, the website is: http://cr.ocgov.com/grantorgrantee/index.asp

I got something in the mail on Saturday and just shoved it in the drawer..maybe I should look at it...

 

[nunzia]

I think the sold numbers may be far smaller.

Performing a wide open search yields multiple results for for a single contract. It may have something to do with financing the purchase. In terms of the actual contracts recorded, I came up with only 948 thru June 30. And that includes multiple contracts for single individuals. I know someone who bought about 200 points and split it over 3 contracts. He is listed 3 times in those 948 records.

So I think the total number of contracts sold is far less than the 1800 that DVCGeek mentioned and the average points per contract may be less than 200 if people are routinely splitting their large contracts (impossible to tell on that second point, though.)

Really surprising numbers, IMO.

Also..I noticed that our two contracts are listed in each of our names as seperate records and then each is also listed as a Grant Deed and Trust deed. So our two little contracts are listed eight different times.
I wish I could buy more points..

 

[lisah0711]

Just searched the California Orange County website and my Grant Deed for VGC is showing as recorded 06-29-2009 along with something like 1800 others on various dates from Disney. Has anyone received back their paper copies of the recorded documents yet? I have NOT as of saturday's mail at least... BTW, the website is: http://cr.ocgov.com/grantorgrantee/index.asp

Thanks for the link. Our contracts recorded on 6/25/2009. I am sure that there is no rhyme or reason to the recording order. Still don't have the deed back though but as long as it is of record, I don't mind.

Now to plan a trip for 2010!

 

[SoCalKDG]

I think the sold numbers may be far smaller.

Performing a wide open search yields multiple results for for a single contract. It may have something to do with financing the purchase. In terms of the actual contracts recorded, I came up with only 948 thru June 30. And that includes multiple contracts for single individuals. I know someone who bought about 200 points and split it over 3 contracts. He is listed 3 times in those 948 records.

So I think the total number of contracts sold is far less than the 1800 that DVCGeek mentioned and the average points per contract may be less than 200 if people are routinely splitting their large contracts (impossible to tell on that second point, though.)

Really surprising numbers, IMO.

You are right, it is less than half of the numbers I listed. Which is wierd because I saw at least 100 people make purchases the one weekend I was at the DLR for an evening event a few months back.

I wonder if they will make all the rooms available, or only about 25% of the rooms since thats all thats been sold? If all are available then thats good news for the rest of DVC owners inside the 7 month window.

 

["Got Disney"]

You are right, it is less than half of the numbers I listed. Which is wierd because I saw at least 100 people make purchases the one weekend I was at the DLR for an evening event a few months back.

I wonder if they will make all the rooms available, or only about 25% of the rooms since thats all thats been sold? If all are available then thats good news for the rest of DVC owners inside the 7 month window.

If what you are all saying is correct than as a San Diegan who uses their points at the Grand all the time than that would work out great for us.

We book later anyway. We booked 2 months ago and are staying Concierge for 7 days starting this Saturday. After 2010 we will have no more concierge at the Grand and will have to stay in the villas. Or stay at one of the other 2 hotels on property.

WE were going to join all of you in purchasing points there but decided to hold off for Hawaii. We have 400 -points and want 200 more. Although the chances of getting into Hawaii will be much easier I'm sure than into the Grand since Hawaii will have sooooo many more Villas.

So who knows once we stay in the Grand Villas we may just change our minds and buy there. But for sure will have no problem with DH going to Hawaii every year.

 

[DVCGeek]

My title insurance policy for my VGC contract arrived in yesterday's mail. Not earth shattering, but nice to have all the same!

 

[Robo-Daddy 3000]

My title insurance policy for my VGC contract arrived in yesterday's mail. Not earth shattering, but nice to have all the same!

I got those documents last week.

I had a question for the VGC owners here. I bought 100 VGC points for the cruise incentive a couple of months ago. I'm curious if everyone received VGC points that started in their 2009 use year or in the 2010 use year? My first allocation for VGC points is in the 2010 use year for some reason. Any ideas why that would be?

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I got those documents last week.

I had a question for the VGC owners here. I bought 100 VGC points for the cruise incentive a couple of months ago. I'm curious if everyone received VGC points that started in their 2009 use year or in the 2010 use year? My first allocation for VGC points is in the 2010 use year for some reason. Any ideas why that would be?

Don't know... Unless it's something to do with your use year. Perhaps if your UY is very early in the calendar year you start in 2010??
We have a September UY and our first points are 2009. We did not take the cruise option.

MG

 

[tjkraz]

They were giving 2009 points to those with Use Years of June - December. Earlier UYs won't get their first points until 2010 due to the late year opening of the resort.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I got those documents last week.

I had a question for the VGC owners here. I bought 100 VGC points for the cruise incentive a couple of months ago. I'm curious if everyone received VGC points that started in their 2009 use year or in the 2010 use year? My first allocation for VGC points is in the 2010 use year for some reason. Any ideas why that would be?

June thru Dec UY's all received 2009 points. All other UY's started in 2010. I'm not certain how Disney goes about deciding this but it's probably related to the originally scheduled opening date of late Nov. BLT was originally scheduled to open in Sept I think and all the UY's received current points. I have two UY's (Apr and Oct) and of course wanted my VGC points in the April. I almost switched to Oct b/c of this but decided to stay with April since in the long run that's what will work best for us for those points.

 

[Robo-Daddy 3000]

They were giving 2009 points to those with Use Years of June - December. Earlier UYs won't get their first points until 2010 due to the late year opening of the resort.

I didn't know about this. I have a March UY but I don't see why it should make any difference when my UY begins. I'm not sure why they aren't giving 2009 points to everyone who bought at VGC in the months before the resort opened. Why make any distinction at all?

It seems like I am losing out on a years worth of points that I have paid for.

 

[DVCGeek]

I'm not sure why they aren't giving 2009 points to everyone who bought at VGC in the months before the resort opened. Why make any distinction at all?

I read somewhere that the line is weather or not your banking window was supposed to end before the resort was scheduled to open. If it was, then you don't get any 2009 points. As for why they made that distinction I can't say- perhaps DVC thought more people would complain about getting less than a year to use points that they didn't get a chance to bank than would be upset about getting 1 fewer Use Year? I assume people in your situation will NOT be charged dues for those points so that should help even things out to some extent...