The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Sandisw]

This is unfair especially in hindsight. There was no way to know what Disney was going to do. Speculation has been all over the place.

I think anyone buying since the sales date was announced probably should have waited, but honestly, buyers knew it was possibly to be more too.

 

[davidl81]

Now we get to see it "totally destabilize the resale market"...

It will effect VGF resale, but nothing else really.

 

[rubybutt]

Anyone buying VGF resale over the past few months was not making a great decision unless they got a great deal IMO. There was always at least a 50% chance VGF would be priced on par with RIV.

And I know myself and others tried to warn them out of it.... so it goes

 

[Sandisw]

I’ve always felt that if RIV was selling 120k points a month VGF would be priced higher. But with RIV barely selling 70k the market was telling DVC that pricing was already too high.

I think in a few months we will get to finally have some real info to see if features of RIV, like resale restrictions, are playing a role, with this resort priced similar.

I am not surprised about the 50 point minimum either.

 

[rubybutt]

I think in a few months we will get to finally have some real info to see if features of RIV, like resale restrictions, are playing a role, with this resort priced similar.

I am not surprise about the 50 point minimum either.

I think we need to give it 90 days and then look at it. There was obvious pent up demand and VGF will blow RIV out this month. Especially since new members can't buy yet.

 

[Sandisw]

I think we need to give it 90 days and then look at it. There was obvious pent up demand and VGF will blow RIV out this month. Especially since new members can't buy yet.

Yeah…March won’t count because it’s owners. But come sales data for April and May should lead us somewhere.

Now, wouldn’t the icing on the cake be to find out they will be removing restrictions!

Okay…that may be a little too much pixie dust.

 

[davidl81]

I think in a few months we will get to finally have some real info to see if features of RIV, like resale restrictions, are playing a role, with this resort priced similar.

I am not surprise about the 50 point minimum either.

It will be interesting. I think the idea is to market an Epcot resort and a MK resort. Both premium products. VGF just has a name advantage . People have heard about Grand Floridian for years, since they were kids maybe. RIV doesn’t have that going for it.

 

[Sandisw]

It will be interesting. I think the idea is to market an Epcot resort and a MK resort. Both premium products. VGF just has a name advantage . People have heard about Grand Floridian for years, since they were kids maybe. RIV doesn’t have that going for it.

I had said you may get people to buy both If similar!

 

[davidl81]

Yeah…March won’t count because it’s owners. But come sales data for April and May should lead us somewhere.

Now, wouldn’t the icing on the cake be to find out they will be removing restrictions!

Okay…that may be a little too much pixie dust.

It more likely that restriction get added to VGF2 somehow than restriction go away. I think the restrictions are a long term strategy unfortunately.

 

[Sandisw]

It more likely that restriction get added to VGF2 somehow than restriction go away. I think the restrictions are a long term strategy unfortunately.

Me too and they don’t bother me! I’m just so darn happy I emailed my guide to say I changed my mind to 150! Woohoo!

 

[tjkraz]

This is unfair especially in hindsight. There was no way to know what Disney was going to do. Speculation has been all over the place.

For more than 10 years, every new DVC resort debuted at the same prevailing price as other active properties. GF was a little different in that it was moving from a higher “sold out” price back to active. Nevertheless, in order to predict what DVC was going to do, all we had to do was look at past practices. Those who thought VGF would break the mold were betting against history.

 

[smmora]

Me too and they don’t bother me! I’m just so darn happy I emailed my guide to say I changed my mind to 150! Woohoo!

I went from 100 to 125 to get a lil discount, but really want DLT

 

[DisneyMom_3]

It will be interesting. I think the idea is to market an Epcot resort and a MK resort. Both premium products. VGF just has a name advantage . People have heard about Grand Floridian for years, since they were kids maybe. RIV doesn’t have that going for it.

True!
Riviera is absolutely beautiful, but you can’t see Cinderella Castle from there (you see Caribbean Beach instead).
I would love the rooms at RIV in the VGF building. I was really hoping this would happen with the recent refurbishment.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I think in a few months we will get to finally have some real info to see if features of RIV, like resale restrictions, are playing a role, with this resort priced similar.

I am not surprised about the 50 point minimum either.

So you think resale restriction is still possible? I can’t see how they can start selling these tomorrow without disclosing that little detail

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

So, the same base as other current resorts less incentives. Never heard any predictions of that.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I love all this chatter at this hour! Usually, I feel like the only one on these boards at this hour since I’m in Hawaii time!

 

[dvc lover 1970]

So you think resale restriction is still possible? I can’t see how they can start selling these tomorrow without disclosing that little detail

I cannot see how they can implement restrictions when it is part of the original resort.

 

[Sandisw]

So you think resale restriction is still possible? I can’t see how they can start selling these tomorrow without disclosing that little detail

They would disclose it but I don’t think they will. I will for sure ask my guide as it won’t matter to me rega4dless.

Ax I mentioned, it would have been in updated documents filed and we would know. By now.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

It will effect VGF resale, but nothing else really.

Yes. Just back to levels that it was a year or two ago.

 

[DisneyMom_3]

Not to change the subject (I realize I’m probably on the wrong thread), but with these new points I’m buying tomorrow (tied it back in ), what would you do?
I didn’t have enough points for our last two nights in a GV at VGF and it’s no longer available, so would you book 2 - 2 bedrooms (waitlisting the GV)? Or, try to get RIV GV at 7 months? It will be my extended family’s first trip, so I don’t want to overwhelm them with switching resorts, but the GV at RIV..