The VGF 2 pricing thread

What will 200 points at VGF2 look like at launch, with incentives included?

  • Same price as Riviera, Same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 34 14.6%
  • Same price as Riviera, higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Same price as Riviera, lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 74 31.8%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 50 21.5%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 39 16.7%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    233
  • Poll closed .
This exactly. We initially were set on selling our SSR after purchasing VGF2. But we use them a lot as sleep around points and would hate to use our more valuable BCV and now VGF2 elsewhere.

I figured it out last night and to be honest, I’d be selling 200 just to get back around 125?

So, for now, I won’t jump to change it but I am emailing my guide to ask what would happen if I decided to sell this and add on another 150 for my Dec UY along with the 150 I got in June UY. If I qualify for the 300 point incentive it might tip the scales.
 
So, is it worth the time and effort to sell my 230 BLT points (4x50 and 1x30) to rebuy 230 GFV2? My math is showing it to be close to a wash, roughly 2,000 more. My wife has never been a huge fan of BLT but I have always loved the proximity of the walk, but now with the walkway to GF I just unsure. Thoughts or am I just off on what I could get for my BLT contracts now.
My gut is your actual difference in cost will be more than just $2,000. Let's say you average $175 for BLT (granted you may get more because of those small contracts) and the buyer pays all closing cost etc, you will net $36,225 after paying commission. VGF2 will cost you $42,780+closing cost for the 230 points. So call the VGF2 purchase $43,500 after closing. That is a $6500 difference. Still really close and of course if you get say 190 a point for your BLT points then the math gets closer to your 2k delta. I like BLT but at that close of a price difference I personally would get the VGF points (assuming you are okay floating that extra 40k for a few months while your BLT points sell). I just think once VGF sells out those points will have more value than the BLT point do.
 
My gut is your actual difference in cost will be more than just $2,000. Let's say you average $175 for BLT (granted you may get more because of those small contracts) and the buyer pays all closing cost etc, you will net $36,225 after paying commission. VGF2 will cost you $42,780+closing cost for the 230 points. So call the VGF2 purchase $43,500 after closing. That is a $6500 difference. Still really close and of course if you get say 190 a point for your BLT points then the math gets closer to your 2k delta. I like BLT but at that close of a price difference I personally would get the VGF points (assuming you are okay floating that extra 40k for a few months while your BLT points sell). I just think once VGF sells out those points will have more value than the BLT point do.
I really hoping to get close to 195 each, two of the contracts has 2021 points. Additional, 4 more years on the contract. All direct points vs some resale after the restriction was put in place. We are a 1- and 2-bedrooms kind of a family but do like studios for me and the wife around runDisney weekends. I'm leaning towards doing it. Thanks for your thoughts.
 

They will allow you to borrow up to 50% for trips prior to your UY starting.

I understand and I don’t about the move to not give current points to anyone but to those with Aug to Dec UY? It seems like they should have been.

In hindsight, I am happy with my new UY, but I would have more than likely rented out some of the 2021 had I gotten them.
I didn’t think anyone was getting 2021 points? Did that change?
 
I didn’t think anyone was getting 2021 points? Did that change?
No one is getting 2021 points. I think the poster was discussing borrowing 2022, that people with UYs after the new building opened should have gotten 2021 points (with a Dec UY I agree with that lol!), and that had she gotten 2021 points she would have rented some out instead of using them.
 
I know it hasn't even been a full day just yet, but has the general consensus been that everyone who purchased has received their points in their account within 24 hours? Trying to decide how much time I have to decide in order to be able to use them on 3/14.

I called in yesterday lunch time and have not yet received any paperwork. When I asked this morning on status I was told there was a backlog of 250 contracts from yesterday that they will be working through today.

Hoping to get it today!
 
I understand and I don’t about the move to not give current points to anyone but to those with Aug to Dec UY? It seems like they should have been.
Wait, what? We purchased August UY and are not getting current points. I was told that everyone will be getting 2022 points, no one is getting current points.
 
Wait, what? We purchased August UY and are not getting current points. I was told that everyone will be getting 2022 points, no one is getting current points.

Yes, you will get 2022 points. But, right now, August is in its 2021 UY so current points should be 2021...but they are not giving them because the resort is not yet open.
 
Just curios if anyone on here bought VGF direct at $255/point before DVC stopped selling them. I was a little shocked to see the lower pricing for VGF2, and with incentives the price gets much lower. I would be pretty mad if I bought 200 VGF points at $255 just before sales on VGF were paused, because now those 200 direct points would be $186. That is almost $70/point! On a 200 point contract that would be a difference of $14,000!! I don't know how many people would be affected by this, so I am curios if anyone on here fell into that category.
I bought some $255 points the months before sales were paused because at the time supply was limited and there were no March UY resale contracts available. You’re right, at first I was really annoyed, but I did want to add on, and with limited availability I was ultimately glad to pick up more at a lower price.

There’s also another way of looking at it. Had I decided to sell one of the $255 contracts shortly after purchasing, I would have probably sold it for around $180-190. That‘s about a $70 pp loss anyway. So I bought well aware that the points’ resale price would be nowhere near what I paid. Am curious to see where VGF will settle now in the resale market.
 
I called in yesterday lunch time and have not yet received any paperwork. When I asked this morning on status I was told there was a backlog of 250 contracts from yesterday that they will be working through today.

Hoping to get it today!
I talked to our guide yesterday around 10:00 am and he had a little trouble getting into our account, but was able to within 5-10 min. He said there must have just been too many guides trying at the time and it wasn’t letting him in- just like using the regular Disney site I guess 🙄. But after he got in we did what we could over the phone and he took my cc for a down payment. My husband and I got our docuSign emails by 1:00, and we filled them out last night. I looked yesterday afternoon and both of our new contracts are there and points are showing. Since all we can do is borrow until Dec and I don’t intend to do that it doesn’t matter, but I still liked seeing all of the available pints for 2022 and beyond 😁.

Edited for many typos and autocorrects! I hope I got them all but doubt it.
 
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So, is it worth the time and effort to sell my 230 BLT points (4x50 and 1x30) to rebuy 230 GFV2?
Will you regret not making the switch or will you regret spending the extra to make the switch? Only you know the answer. If VGF is better for your family then go for it and don't look back. Now is the time IF you want to do it.
 
I talked to put guide yesterday around 10:00 am and he had a little trouble getting into our account, but was able to within 5-10 min. He said there mist have just been too many giude trying at the time and it wasn’t letting him in- just like using the regular Disney site I guess 🙄. But after he got in we did what we could over the phone and he took my cc for a down payment. My husband and I got our docuSign emails by 1:00, and we filled them out last night. I looked yesterday afternoon and both of our new contracts are there and points are showing. Since all we can do is borrow until Dec and I don’t intend to do that it doesn’t matter, but I still liked seeing all of the available points for 2022 and beyond 😁.
Yes, our new contracts showed up yesterday afternoon before we even signed the eDocs.
 
I looked yesterday afternoon and both of our new contracts are there and points are showing.
Yes, our new contracts showed up yesterday afternoon before we even signed the eDocs.

Good to hear-I keep checking my cc for pending transactions, but I'll look on my dashboard as well. Seems like everyone say either cc or points prior to docs. 🤞

Haven't heard of anyone from the afternoon receiving docs/points, so all of the 250 backlogged must be from after lunch.

Does seem like its selling faster than I've heard of any the past. Anyone with more historical knowledge for comparison? 250+ in first day seems fantastic!
 
Yes, our new contracts showed up yesterday afternoon before we even signed the eDocs.
I never even thought to check, I saw them when I followed the link from our docuSign email to read something and clicked over to my dashboard from there. My guide told me that I would get the email with the documents after they charged my cc for the down payment, and they didn’t charge it for a couple of hours after I talked to him - I assume the documents came soon after, I wasn’t checking that regularly right then.
 
Does seem like its selling faster than I've heard of any the past. Anyone with more historical knowledge for comparison? 250+ in first day seems fantastic!


Researching my own question, and it looks like when VGF1 opened in 2013, its first month of sales were:
-689 deeds recorded
-totaling 85,994 points
-all purchases the first month from existing DVC members

*So yes, in the first day of VGF2 with deed sales over 250 it looks to be a popular add-on choice.
 
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I figured it out last night and to be honest, I’d be selling 200 just to get back around 125?

So, for now, I won’t jump to change it but I am emailing my guide to ask what would happen if I decided to sell this and add on another 150 for my Dec UY along with the 150 I got in June UY. If I qualify for the 300 point incentive it might tip the scales.

I just wanted to follow up on this. I did talk to my guide and he said that I can absolutely qualify for the 300 point incentive level even though each 150 contract would be in a different UY because my DH and I are the same owners of both.

I was NOT expecting that answer and now is time to crunch numbers....again...but I am sure you can all figure out which way I am leaning!!! LOL
 
Researching my own question, and it looks like with VGF1 opened in 2013, its first month of sales were:
-689 deeds recorded
-totaling 85,994 points
-all purchases the first month from existing DVC members

*So yes, in the first day of VGF2 with deed sales over 250 it looks to be a popular add-on choice.
How did you find out how many sales there were yesterday? I love random stats like that!
 
I just wanted to follow up on this. I did talk to my guide and he said that I can absolutely qualify for the 300 point incentive level even though each 150 contract would be in a different UY because my DH and I are the same owners of both.

I was NOT expecting that answer and now is time to crunch numbers....again...but I am sure you can all figure out which way I am leaning!!! LOL
Let’s be honest, “crunching numbers” just means “making them show that this is a good financial idea even if it isn’t” haha. You should have just told your guide “sold!”.
 



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