The VGF 2 pricing thread

[DisneyMom_3]

50 points doesn't go far at VGF. I have a 55pt resale contract and so far have resisted the urge to call my guide.

That’s my concern! I know 100 isn’t a lot either, but hopefully they could get a few nights or go every couple of years. I’ll only be in my 80’s when the contract expires so who knows, maybe I’ll keep them all!
I know that it’s 40 years and who knows what could happen in that time, but frustrating to buy knowing that giving them each an equal contract isn’t an option.
I know there are lots of options. It’s just frustrating that they priced everything out and we were ready to go but it wouldn’t take the payment. Then to come back and say oh that won’t work. Do you want equal contracts for your kids or your husband on there? You can’t have both!
My guide is off the next two days, so I guess I’ll have a couple of days to think about it.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Yes if you have the credit limit.

You don't have to pay the full amount in one installment.

 

[jacec]

You need those APs to come back!!!

Very much so. Anyone have some magic to make that happen ?

 

[CarolMN]

Interesting. My guide definitely said I had to have final payment within 30 days, all money due by April 1st. I will say I didn’t ask if there was an alternative, it never would have occurred to me since I assumed he was telling me the actual requirement. I imagine it’s too late now, I’ve signed the papers. I don’t know that it would really be something we would want anyway, it’s just annoying to find out he didn’t give me an option that was available.

My guide was perfectly willing to spread my cost out over several payments. There wasn't any push to have them all made by April 1. But then he also said dues would be prorated from resort open (not use year if later), so I suspect not all guides absorbed all the info equally.

Anyway, I have the cash & will pay by 4/1. Just want to use a credit card for the rewards and not exceed credit limit.

 

[stwaldman]

My guide was perfectly willing to spread my cost out over several payments. There wasn't any push to have them all made by April 1. But then he also said dues would be prorated from resort open (not use year if later), so I suspect not all guides absorbed all the info equally.

Anyway, I have the cash & will pay by 4/1. Just want to use a credit card for the rewards and not exceed credit limit.

yeah, i told my guide i "was still working on getting the funding together" and he basically volunteered a stretched out plan because he knew i was using the disney cc and was going to backload a chunk for the 6 months.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Interesting. My guide definitely said I had to have final payment within 30 days, all money due by April 1st. I will say I didn’t ask if there was an alternative, it never would have occurred to me since I assumed he was telling me the actual requirement. I imagine it’s too late now, I’ve signed the papers. I don’t know that it would really be something we would want anyway, it’s just annoying to find out he didn’t give me an option that was available.


That doesn’t make sense. What if one guide sold 15 of the first 500 contracts? It says first 500 contracts overall, nothing about per guide.

They can extend the payment schedule beyond thirty days but they have to go to their supervisor for approval.

 

[Paul Stupin]

All points bought and loaded! Of course as an existing owner, mostly resale but even some direct last year at $255, I’m still happy to take advantage of that $179 price. And at least I didn’t buy any points during the recent VGF bubble.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

So (and, BTW, nothing against you by this), this is EXACTLY, I believe what most of us VGF1 owners were afraid of. I had never considered selling points off before, but this is really pushing me towards it (once resale comes back up, that is, until then, I can rent them if I have to, I suppose).

Exactly what I was going to say. So much for all these new purchases wanting to stay in the resort studios.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

You don't have to pay the full amount in one installment.

No but you have to have the available credit.

 

[stwaldman]

Exactly what I was going to say. So much for all these new purchases wanting to stay in the resort studios.

for what its worth, i'm still on team 2 studios, especially if adjoining, suits me about as well as a 2BR (when i need the space), but admittedly that won't be the case for all.

 

[ninafeliz]

My guide was perfectly willing to spread my cost out over several payments. There wasn't any push to have them all made by April 1. But then he also said dues would be prorated from resort open (not use year if later), so I suspect not all guides absorbed all the info equally.

Anyway, I have the cash & will pay by 4/1. Just want to use a credit card for the rewards and not exceed credit limit.

That’s our plan, and why I don’t think I care about the extra time. But had we needed it I would be annoyed to have not been given the option. We are going to split it into 4 cc payments, one a week, and pay it off in between instead of maxing out my limit- it’s already bad enough for the credit score, using the max even for a short period would surely be worse lol. I actually think the entire amount is still a bit over my limit without asking them to raise it or shift it between chase cards anyway. The splitting worked last time, and should work well again.

 

[Disneycouple99]

So, is it worth the time and effort to sell my 230 BLT points (4x50 and 1x30) to rebuy 230 GFV2? My math is showing it to be close to a wash, roughly 2,000 more. My wife has never been a huge fan of BLT but I have always loved the proximity of the walk, but now with the walkway to GF I just unsure. Thoughts or am I just off on what I could get for my BLT contracts now.

 

[ninafeliz]

for what its worth, i'm still on team 2 studios, especially if adjoining, suits me about as well as a 2BR (when i need the space), but admittedly that won't be the case for all.

I don’t have any interest in 2 studios instead of a 2BR unless it was all I could get or if the points were a ton lower and that was my incentive. As much as I always say we can stay in small rooms without an issue, if we have 6 people and Disney won’t let us squeeze into one room I want the living space, kitchen, and W/D rather than just 2 rooms. I always said I didn’t care about having a W/D on vacation until we had one and I was amazed at how many times I just threw a few things in for one reason or another.

 

[Wedgeout]

So, is it worth the time and effort to sell my 230 BLT points (4x50 and 1x30) to rebuy 230 GFV2? My math is showing it to be close to a wash, roughly 2,000 more. My wife has never been a huge fan of BLT but I have always loved the proximity of the walk, but now with the walkway to GF I just unsure. Thoughts or am I just off on what I could get for my BLT contracts now.

Doesn’t seem worth that to me. Unless you had funds and planned to buy the 230 now and then start the sell offs. I think you are still better off keeping your BLT contracts. Plus not yet knowing how these new resort studio points will affect future bookings and availability. There is the walkway over there now but it’s longer then the one you have now.

 

[RamblinWreck]

I generally just kind of goof off around here, but I would like to make one small commentary about this thread.

When I first opened the thread, I immediately voted that the points would be much more expensive than Riviera. It was an uneducated guess.

I then read the first 10 or so pages (I was late to join in the fun I guess!) and saw a lot of really well reasoned, evidenced based guesses that all suggested VGF would start sales at a price nearly identical to RIV. These people all tended to be respectful of everyone else’s opinions.

While I don’t recall seeing anyone outright insulting anyone. What I saw from the side of people who thought it would come in much higher was actually no supporting arguments or evidence at all. But they would frequently refer to anything within the realm of RIV pricing as “crazy”, “a fantasy”, etc

These are direct quotes but I have no desire to name names here.

Compared to other online forums, this place is a lot more cordial than most corners of the internet. But it might behoove all of us to remember that everyone else here is also a human being, and it doesn’t do any of us any good to belittle someone else’s opinion.

I was convinced in those first 10 pages that my gut reaction was wrong. Partly because the evidence was very convincing. And partly because when one side of an argument sticks to facts while another one just tries to act confident, you can almost be sure that the confidence without evidence side is wrong.

And this really isn’t to single anyone out. It’s a natural human tendency. If you believe (or want to believe) something is true, and the evidence says otherwise, you (and I) will be tempted to be dismissive of well reasoned arguments to the contrary.

Everyone will be better off if we can all remain cognizant of that and spot it in ourselves when it happens.

That’s all I got

 

[SusieQ93]

The card I used was from Chase not sure if that matters..

DVC ESCROW PAYMENT
FL 34747
(800) 800-9800

Description: DVC ESCROW PAYMENT
Also known as: DVC ESCROW PAYMENT
Merchant type: Timeshares
Method: In person
Card number: (...XXXX)
Category: Travel

I did the transaction over the phone but it stated in person

This is super helpful, thanks! Half of our purchase will go on my card and half on my husband’s. He gets 3% back on travel purchases and we were wondering if it would be coded as travel.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Doesn’t seem worth that to me. Unless you had funds and planned to buy the 230 now and then start the sell offs. I think you are still better off keeping your BLT contracts. Plus not yet knowing how these new resort studio points will affect future bookings and availability. There is the walkway over there now but it’s longer then the one you have now.

Do you go first 2 weeks of Dec? If not, maybe you could stay at VGF some of the nights and do split stays using your BLT pts.

 

[tidefan]

So, is it worth the time and effort to sell my 230 BLT points (4x50 and 1x30) to rebuy 230 GFV2? My math is showing it to be close to a wash, roughly 2,000 more. My wife has never been a huge fan of BLT but I have always loved the proximity of the walk, but now with the walkway to GF I just unsure. Thoughts or am I just off on what I could get for my BLT contracts now.

I wish we could do an even-ish trade for our 100 VGF1 points for 100 or so of your BLT points!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

VGC opened in September 2009, the first use year was June 2009. I have April at BWV and it soured me on it. Of course, I regret it now when I paid $180 for resale 2 years ago.

Yes, I was in the same position with VGC. I really wanted it in my April UY but got contracts for my Oct UY because of that (which did get the points unlike what they are doing with VGF). But did decide to stick with my original decision and got the April. As I recall VGC was originally estimated to open a bit later in the year. I had written that off to some CA timeshare rule especially since I believe the next WDW resort sold all UY's with current points.

 

[DisneyMom_3]

Yes, I was in the same position with VGC. I really wanted it in my April UY but got contracts for my Oct UY because of that (which did get the points unlike what they are doing with VGF). But did decide to stick with my original decision and got the April.

I really don’t understand the reasoning for not giving 2021 points to anyone still in their 2021 UY. If they are available to book in June, then why wouldn’t at least August and later get them? The studios would be available to book in their 2021 UY.
(They will let you borrow 50% and book at VGF1 before then.)