The Vaccine Discussion Thread

[tink2424]

My husband has worked in radiology his entire career and I do agree with this. Most of the time, the radiologist does not even read the exams until the patient is gone (unless they are an inpatient in a hospital, obviously) and does not even see the patient. There are a few exemptions to this, but this is what happens the majority of the time. At the same time, I just questioned him and at his hospital the radiologists are seeing a lot of covid lung damage. So I do think that anricat is correct about that, just not about the fact that the information is given to the patient directly from the radiologist.

The question then becomes what is the significance of the lung damage? Is is causing the majority of people to have symptoms, not be able to function, or even anything? Also, is the damage reversible? After a year or 2 will the lungs heal and be fine.

These are all things we don't know. And if that many people are finding out that they have lung damage only when going for imaging for something else then in all actuality it probably isn't that big of a problem. It isn't impacting their life.

MANY diseases cause post viral syndrome. MANY diseases cause damage to organs. I think some of this gets overblown in terms of importance.

 

[sabrecmc]

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to include adolescents 12 through 15 years of age "

FDA Press Release

 

[brentm77]

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to include adolescents 12 through 15 years of age "

FDA Press Release

That's good news. Other good news on the vaccine front is that BioNTech (co-developer of the Pfizer vaccine) said that there isn't evidence that modifications are currently needed to the Pfizer vaccine to cover any of the existing variants, and that the vaccine appears to be effective against the Indian variant. Pfizer is still testing its updated booster just in case a booster is determined to be needed at a later date, but so far, at least, BioNTech doesn't think it is needed.

 

[Mousequake]

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to include adolescents 12 through 15 years of age "

FDA Press Release

Excellent. The ACIP is meeting on Wednesday to sign off on it, and shots for that age group should be able to start immediately after.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

Excellent. The ACIP is meeting on Wednesday to sign off on it, and shots for that age group should be able to start immediately after.

Appointments are readily available right now for a few pharmacies distributing Pfizer in my neck of the woods. I can't wait to make an appointment for my oldest by the end of this week!

 

[DCLDVC1]

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to include adolescents 12 through 15 years of age "

FDA Press Release

Sign us up.

 

[Mousequake]

Appointments are readily available right now for a few pharmacies distributing Pfizer in my neck of the woods. I can't wait to make an appointment for my oldest by the end of this week!

I've already got mine all setup. Well, actually two-- my daughter is supposedly part of a group that's going to be on the news as one of the first kids to get vaxxed in my state, but they're being super flaky about it and I'm concerned it might not happen. As a backup, I found a local pharmacy that doesn't verify birthdates when you book an appointment, so I've got that set up for Thursday afternoon just in case.

 

[lanejudy]

Appointments are readily available right now for a few pharmacies distributing Pfizer in my neck of the woods. I can't wait to make an appointment for my oldest by the end of this week!

Yes, our governor and health commissioner stated on Friday that appointments would be open to 12-15 as soon as the CDC announcement.

 

[Birdie dog]

The question then becomes what is the significance of the lung damage? Is is causing the majority of people to have symptoms, not be able to function, or even anything? Also, is the damage reversible? After a year or 2 will the lungs heal and be fine.

These are all things we don't know. And if that many people are finding out that they have lung damage only when going for imaging for something else then in all actuality it probably isn't that big of a problem. It isn't impacting their life.

MANY diseases cause post viral syndrome. MANY diseases cause damage to organs. I think some of this gets overblown in terms of importance.

I personally know two people who were healthy pre-covid. (1 male in his early 40s with no medical conditions who ran half marathons) (1 female not in that kind of physical condition but healthy and active) who both wear long term oxygen now. The numbers are low, til it's you.

 

[soniam]

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to include adolescents 12 through 15 years of age "

FDA Press Release

Come on Texas! Git off your duffs, quit campaigning, and lower the eligibility age already. This age group is showing the largest increase in covid in our county and has become 25% of all new cases. Really want to get my son vaccinated before he heads out of state for the summer and before our summer Orlando vacation.

 

[orum]

"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expanded the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to include adolescents 12 through 15 years of age "

FDA Press Release

This is FANTASTIC news!

Hopefully, we will see the vaccines fully approved vs emergency approval soon as well. Increasing the eligibility as well as getting them fully approved removes some of the roadblocks to getting more people vaccinated.

 

[sabrecmc]

Come on Texas! Git off your duffs, quit campaigning, and lower the eligibility age already. This age group is showing the largest increase in covid in our county and has become 25% of all new cases. Really want to get my son vaccinated before he heads out of state for the summer and before our summer Orlando vacation.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1391885731518455809

 

[tink2424]

I personally know two people who were healthy pre-covid. (1 male in his early 40s with no medical conditions who ran half marathons) (1 female not in that kind of physical condition but healthy and active) who both wear long term oxygen now. The numbers are low, til it's you.

Isn't that the case with everything? I personally know 2 people and know of at least 10 more through my sister that have had reactions to the vaccine. Some of them very severe and at least 2 that have died right after having the vaccine that were perfectly healthy prior to taking it. Because the numbers of people having bad reactions to the vaccine are so low we are told to ignore that because of the greater good. And to your point that is all fine and well until its you or a loved one. So it goes both ways...

Also, I hope your friends are able to get well soon! Nothing stinks more than going from healthy to debilitated & I truly hope they are able to recover.

 

[go oilers go]

I live in Alberta, Canada, and we are admittedly the stinky armpit of Covid in Canada right now (possible North America), but we were the first to approve the vaccine for kids 12+. I’ve got my 15 year old son booked for tomorrow and my 13 year old daughter for Friday...now to wait for second doses for all of us ...hopefully by the end of July

There is also talk of mixing vaccines for the second dose as we have more Pfizer than anything else. I had AZ and I believe there is a shortage due to the terrible situation in India right now where most of that vaccine is produced. Not sure how I feel about getting Pfizer after AZ but will follow the science closely.

 

[wideeyedwonder]

Some complications with Canada’s vaccine rollout:


“A great disservice to the people who got it': Ontario pauses use of AstraZeneca vaccine due to blood clot concerns, amid mixed reaction”

"... Dr. David Williams, Ontario's chief medical officer of health, announced Tuesday that the province will stop administering first doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine due to increased concerns around vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT), which causes blood clots.

... Dr. Jessica Hopkins, chief health protection and emergency preparedness officer at Public Health Ontario, confirmed that the province is reporting that the risk of VITT is now one in 60,000 in Ontario. The risk nationally is one in 55,000.

... Ontario's chief medical officer of health said he hopes to have answers in the coming weeks around what the options will be for people in the province who are waiting for their second dose, after receiving the first shot of AstraZeneca, stating that the data is being reviewed."

 

[mevelandry]

Vaccine News from Canada (Quebec): Immunocompromised people will not have to wait more than a month before receiving their second shot. The delay is now at 4 weeks instead of 16 weeks for them. The government announced yesterday that we are now receiving a lot of vaccines and in the next weeks they will review the 16 weeks delay and they might make the delay shorter for certain categories. To be continued...

 

[n2mm]

Both my daughters are signing my 2 younger granddaughters up for their first shots. We have a trip in 3 weeks, but trying to make sure we’re home for #2. At least the girls will have their first shots. Both 16 year olds are fully vaccinated now.

 

[Canadian Girl]

That's good news. Other good news on the vaccine front is that BioNTech (co-developer of the Pfizer vaccine) said that there isn't evidence that modifications are currently needed to the Pfizer vaccine to cover any of the existing variants, and that the vaccine appears to be effective against the Indian variant. Pfizer is still testing its updated booster just in case a booster is determined to be needed at a later date, but so far, at least, BioNTech doesn't think it is needed.

Canadians were told Pfizer is already working on a booster for the fall to cover the variants and it will be distributed in Canada. We have been hit hard hit by variants, the US , not so much. Hmmm. I wonder if the protection is better than they thought. I had my first Pfizer dose last week.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Canadians were told Pfizer is already working on a booster for the fall to cover the variants

The NY Times had an article stating that the current Pfizer vaccine is effective against the UK and South African variants:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/health/coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-variants.html

 

[mostlytraveling4food]

The NY Times had an article stating that the current Pfizer vaccine is effective against the UK and South African variants:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/health/coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-variants.html

Its a bit confusing at times, but sometimes when they say booster, it's because they don't know how long your anti-bodies are good for against the virus.

I do think there will be continuous shots for quite some time, as there will always be new variants in the near future.