The Vaccine Discussion Thread

[cmph]

My husband has had the Pfizer vaccine with almost no side effects, just a sore arm for about a day. He had his second dose 5 days ago. Regarding vaccinated people still catching Covid, the studies have shown it is unlikely, and when it did happen, it was mild. None of the few study candidates who got it were even hospitalized. So, if we are to “follow the science” as we have been lectured about for the past 9 months, then we shouldn’t worry about that.

A co-worker tested positive a week or so after his 1st shot (Pfizer). He also is high-risk for complications in numerous ways (weight, heart condition) but has only had fatigue/cough. I think he could have been much worse off.

I'm 6 days past my 2nd shot (Pfizer). No real issues. Very mild lightheadedness for a day, muscle aches in upper torso only for a day, and sore injection site for a few days. Pfizer is all we have in my area, and I don't know anyone who has experienced any major issues.

 

[princessmommyx3]

I forgot to add that my husband has a history of anaphylaxis (but not from vaccines) and did not have any type of reaction after either shot.

 

[jane01jp]

Interesting story out of California:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2021/01/23/placer-covid-vaccine-person-dies/

 

[jane01jp]

I am heading out on a solo road trip from North Carolina to Arizona in the a.m. and hope to have a mask-free Odyssey.
[/QUOTE]

I made it from Charlotte, NC to Sallisaw, OK today with no mask. In fact, no one in any of the states I passed through even suggested that I needed one. I started at the Charlotte Douglass International Airport, where I went inside to go downstairs to get my rental car (I wasn't flying - my wife dropped me off at departures, and I had to go downstairs to arrivals).

Once I picked up my car, I drove through North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, and part of Oklahoma, I stopped in businesses in each state, and secured a motel room in Oklahoma, all without the benefit of a mask!

Total of 900+ miles, 4 states, no mask!

 

[Katiebird]

Interesting story out of California:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2021/01/23/placer-covid-vaccine-person-dies/

I wouldn’t say that’s interesting unto there is some indication of cause of death. For all that article states it could’ve been a car accident (I’m sure it wasn’t, but the article has no actual information, either).

 

[jane01jp]

I wouldn’t say that’s interesting unto there is some indication of cause of death. For all that article states it could’ve been a car accident (I’m sure it wasn’t, but the article has no actual information, either).

There are also reports that some of the reported COVID deaths are car accidents, etc. Kind of interesting, huh?

 

[jlwhitney]

There are also reports that some of the reported COVID deaths are car accidents, etc. Kind of interesting, huh?

My husbands great aunt passed away 3 weeks ago, she had covid 2 months prior to passing away, she was late 80's and didn't have a bad case at all. She was frail as is and most of his family has been expecting her to pass away for the last 3 years. They counted her as covid and family is ticked because it wasn't covid that caused her to pass away.

 

[Chuck S]

My husbands great aunt passed away 3 weeks ago, she had covid 2 months prior to passing away, she was late 80's and didn't have a bad case at all. She was frail as is and most of his family has been expecting her to pass away for the last 3 years. They counted her as covid and family is ticked because it wasn't covid that caused her to pass away.

We really don't know. COVID could certainly have been a contributing factor. We are seeing many people pass away a few months after they've "recovered" from COVID, even mild cases.

 

[jlwhitney]

We really don't know. COVID could certainly have been a contributing factor. We are seeing many people pass away a few months after they've "recovered" from COVID, even mild cases.

MIght not fully know but at the same time more judgement needs to be made also and looked into before also just assuming covid.

 

[DCLMP]

There are also reports that some of the reported COVID deaths are car accidents, etc. Kind of interesting, huh?

If you do a google search you will find various stories of deaths after receiving the Covid vaccine. Did they die from the vaccine or something else? The same could be true for many of Covid deaths. The only thing I'm certain of is I don't trust any type of media anymore. Everyone has a narrative or agenda they are pushing.

 

[mevelandry]

My husbands great aunt passed away 3 weeks ago, she had covid 2 months prior to passing away, she was late 80's and didn't have a bad case at all. She was frail as is and most of his family has been expecting her to pass away for the last 3 years. They counted her as covid and family is ticked because it wasn't covid that caused her to pass away.

I don’t know how it works in your area but here, you can ask for an autopsy and if the cause of death is other, they have to correct their COVID numbers. So far, corrections have been relatively rare (just a few deaths among thousands) but they are disclosed to the public.

 

[mevelandry]

If you do a google search you will find various stories of deaths after receiving the Covid vaccine. Did they die from the vaccine or something else? (...)

If that‘s the case, autopsies will determine that.

That being said, so far, it’s been a few cases over millions of shots in people’s arms.

Unfortunately, exceptions happen with every vaccine and medication... Just listen to every medicine commercial when they list the potential side effects. This is why it‘s important to always discuss with your doctor before you take... anything.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

If that‘s the case, autopsies will determine that.

That being said, so far, it’s been a few cases over millions of shots in people’s arms.

Unfortunately, exceptions happen with every vaccine and medication... Just listen to every medicine commercial when they list the potential side effects. This is why it‘s important to always discussion with your doctor before you take... anything.

Not everyone has an autopsy. In fact, they are being done less often than usual these days.

 

[Orion Nebula]

If you do a google search you will find various stories of deaths after receiving the Covid vaccine. Did they die from the vaccine or something else? The same could be true for many of Covid deaths. The only thing I'm certain of is I don't trust any type of media anymore. Everyone has a narrative or agenda they are pushing.

Lets not forget that every vaccine has been attributed to severe reactions, some of which have resulted in death. The same vaccinations that most in the US have gotten, both as children and as adults via boosters. There are risks, we take those risks due to the alternative of catching a deadly disease. In the case of covid it is undeniably real. Even if you believe the media is hyping it and the government is covering up it's severity, it exists. So in turn many of us are willing to get a vaccination just as we did dozens of times in our lives. Why? Because the alternative is horrifying.

Some fun reading... lol

 

[Cheburashka]

Such chaos here in the eastern panhandle of WV.

Just like everywhere else.

 

[Cheburashka]

Do you think if cruiselines/ airlines/ countries will require a vaccine they'll be picky about which one?

Nope. It's going to take long enough for people to get vaccinated with whatever is available.

 

[mevelandry]

Not everyone has an autopsy. In fact, they are being done less often than usual these days.

Family can always ask for it. Although I have to admit that delays for results might be quite important these days.

 

[Chuck S]

If that‘s the case, autopsies will determine that.

That being said, so far, it’s been a few cases over millions of shots in people’s arms.

Unfortunately, exceptions happen with every vaccine and medication... Just listen to every medicine commercial when they list the potential side effects. This is why it‘s important to always discuss with your doctor before you take... anything.

And even then, there could be a reaction. I was put on a drug that the doctor, an experienced internist, said that no one has side effects from...and I did...after researching, turns out it is EXTREMELY rare, but there were allergic reactions of drug induced hepatitis, that cleared up in about a week once the drug is withdrawn. That's what happened to me. It was not a new drug. And over the years, there were only like 5 other such reactions worldwide.

No drug is 100% safe, and the newer the drug or vaccine, the less data they have to go on. Yes, I will get the vaccine, but I also know something could go awry...but that is my choice.

 

[AquaDame]

Family can always ask for it. Although I have to admit that delays for results might be quite important these days.

If I remember correctly you are in Canada..? I'm not sure how its going up there, but we were stretched thin and underfunded in this department even before covid...

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...-medical-examiners-coroners-last-week-tonight
And they are prohibitively expensive:
"Autopsies are not covered under Medicare, Medicaid or most insurance plans, though some hospitals -- teaching hospitals in particular -- do not charge for autopsies of individuals who passed away in the facility. A private autopsy by an outside expert can cost between $3,000 and $5,000. In some cases, there may be an additional charge for the transportation of the body to and from the autopsy facility."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/post-mortem/things-to-know/autopsy-101.html
For Oregon they do say that there will be an autopsy in this case, but it varies from state to state:

• Contagious diseases that may pose a public health threat

https://multco.us/health/providers/medical-examiner

 

[DCLMP]

Lets not forget that every vaccine has been attributed to severe reactions, some of which have resulted in death. The same vaccinations that most in the US have gotten, both as children and as adults via boosters. There are risks, we take those risks due to the alternative of catching a deadly disease. In the case of covid it is undeniably real. Even if you believe the media is hyping it and the government is covering up it's severity, it exists. So in turn many of us are willing to get a vaccination just as we did dozens of times in our lives. Why? Because the alternative is horrifying.

Some fun reading... lol

I think calling it “horrifying” is bit dramatic.