The Running Thread--2024

Tentatively excited about the shirts, I think the free shirt quality in general has gone down but we’ll see what they can do. Has anyone here done a race where they’re the apparel sponsor? My only experience recently is NB (NYRR) and Nike (Chicago).

I will say that Brooks does really good work with their quarter zips, big fan of those.
 
2024 Chicago Marathon
The theme of the weekend was so many people. So, so many people....everywhere. Runners, spectators, people all over the city. I did this back in 2016 and if you would have told me there was twice as many participants as then, I would have believed you. That's not the case but I did see bibs# up over sixty thousand.

The training cycle had its ups and downs. I had to take three weeks off in July due to some pain in my heel. The train had to get moving up to speed pretty quickly after that. The plan (more like dream) all along was to run a new PR under 3:16. Was this feasible and/or smart, not so much. I figured the odds of me running Chicago again aren't very high and maybe a miracle would happen. The main goal was to hopefully avoid a complete implosion along the way. So, with hell or high water I was off with the 3:15 group. I was expecting the first few miles to be slow just due to the mass of people. It was wall-to-wall people, but we got on pace really quick, even running fast the first mile. It's the little hectic the first 5k: the first water stop is chaos and we almost came to a standstill making the first right turn on Jackson Blvd. By mile 10, I knew the pace wasn't going to hold in the long run and I started slowing down around mile 14.5. Probably lost 15 seconds a mile until mile 19 when I went to intervals at .5 mile running/30-40 second walk. Not that I was feeling great or even good the last few miles but thankfully avoided any cramping or completely imploding and finished in 3:32:50.

It's an awesome race to do and overall experience. The crowd support is unbelievable. There's shoulder-to-shoulder people the entire course. The areas downtown, especially around the bridges, are madhouses with people. I loved the way working down from Wrigleyville to the halfway point and the ethnic neighborhoods the back half are great too. I can't recommend trying to find a way to do this race enough. I know the odds next year are going to be tougher with the tighter standards and in-turn making the lottery harder but no harm trying to put in for it.

Random notes:
-Every race should play Sirius before the start and have Japanese drummers along the course (still my favorite part of the Disney marathon).
-We've all probably seen people warming up in a corral, but I've never seen one turn into a full-blown track. Half the corral had to have a couple hundred people just running 40M or so laps around one side. This went on for over twenty minutes until the closed the corrals and there were a ton of people still outside who had to jump the fence to get in.
 
Tentatively excited about the shirts, I think the free shirt quality in general has gone down but we’ll see what they can do. Has anyone here done a race where they’re the apparel sponsor? My only experience recently is NB (NYRR) and Nike (Chicago).

I will say that Brooks does really good work with their quarter zips, big fan of those.
Like @The Expert I have several Brooks race shirts and wear them often. I also have a fleece 1/4 zip hoodie from a couple years back from a race that I love.
 

2024 Chicago Marathon
The theme of the weekend was so many people. So, so many people....everywhere. Runners, spectators, people all over the city. I did this back in 2016 and if you would have told me there was twice as many participants as then, I would have believed you. That's not the case but I did see bibs# up over sixty thousand.

The training cycle had its ups and downs. I had to take three weeks off in July due to some pain in my heel. The train had to get moving up to speed pretty quickly after that. The plan (more like dream) all along was to run a new PR under 3:16. Was this feasible and/or smart, not so much. I figured the odds of me running Chicago again aren't very high and maybe a miracle would happen. The main goal was to hopefully avoid a complete implosion along the way. So, with hell or high water I was off with the 3:15 group. I was expecting the first few miles to be slow just due to the mass of people. It was wall-to-wall people, but we got on pace really quick, even running fast the first mile. It's the little hectic the first 5k: the first water stop is chaos and we almost came to a standstill making the first right turn on Jackson Blvd. By mile 10, I knew the pace wasn't going to hold in the long run and I started slowing down around mile 14.5. Probably lost 15 seconds a mile until mile 19 when I went to intervals at .5 mile running/30-40 second walk. Not that I was feeling great or even good the last few miles but thankfully avoided any cramping or completely imploding and finished in 3:32:50.

It's an awesome race to do and overall experience. The crowd support is unbelievable. There's shoulder-to-shoulder people the entire course. The areas downtown, especially around the bridges, are madhouses with people. I loved the way working down from Wrigleyville to the halfway point and the ethnic neighborhoods the back half are great too. I can't recommend trying to find a way to do this race enough. I know the odds next year are going to be tougher with the tighter standards and in-turn making the lottery harder but no harm trying to put in for it.

Random notes:
-Every race should play Sirius before the start and have Japanese drummers along the course (still my favorite part of the Disney marathon).
-We've all probably seen people warming up in a corral, but I've never seen one turn into a full-blown track. Half the corral had to have a couple hundred people just running 40M or so laps around one side. This went on for over twenty minutes until the closed the corrals and there were a ton of people still outside who had to jump the fence to get in.
Congrats!!

I ran Chicago this weekend too and agree with the “so many people!” I had to wait in line for 45+ min for a portapotty before the race started- glad I got there in time!

I was actually kind of underwhelmed by Chicago- I was also sick during the race, so that probably doesn’t help my POV. I was not in the last corral and well below the course time limit and they were already out of gels at the first stop.

I know we’ve all bemoaned rundisney at times, but I don’t think any race is flawless.
 
We've all probably seen people warming up in a corral, but I've never seen one turn into a full-blown track. Half the corral had to have a couple hundred people just running 40M or so laps around one side. This went on for over twenty minutes until the closed the corrals and there were a ton of people still outside who had to jump the fence to get in.
I remember seeing this last year on the telecast and sending a picture to my friend of the largest circle pit I had ever seen 🤘

Glad you were able to have a good time despite the setbacks.
 
Coming up for air here in Hurricaneville, where it’s been all hurricane, all the time for 3 weeks. Slammed by Helene, and extra-slammed by Milton: my poor Tampa Bay community is a mess.

I’m okay, and my home is okay. We were without power until late Monday. No internet. Little cellular data. Tremendous amounts of storm debris: just piles everywhere you look of branches and leaves and furniture and appliances. A lot of folks lost a lot or everything. It’s been… hard.

To keep this running related…

I evacuated with my family to a Flamingo Crossings property and have NO regrets. What a fantastic location! Highly recommend for those wanting offsite options for WDW races. We had all we needed between safe accommodations, food options, and a gas station that was open and actually had gas the day before we drove home.

I ran off some storm stress last Wed. around Flamingo Crossings - it’s a great place to run. Lots of sidewalks. Pedestrian overpasses over what could be busy roads.

Hit WDW for a few hours Friday when it reopened after the hurricane and boy, did that do me some good! A little slice of normalcy in what will be a very long period of nothing like normalcy as we recover. I can’t wait to get back.
 
Coming up for air here in Hurricaneville, where it’s been all hurricane, all the time for 3 weeks. Slammed by Helene, and extra-slammed by Milton: my poor Tampa Bay community is a mess.

I’m okay, and my home is okay. We were without power until late Monday. No internet. Little cellular data. Tremendous amounts of storm debris: just piles everywhere you look of branches and leaves and furniture and appliances. A lot of folks lost a lot or everything. It’s been… hard.

To keep this running related…

I evacuated with my family to a Flamingo Crossings property and have NO regrets. What a fantastic location! Highly recommend for those wanting offsite options for WDW races. We had all we needed between safe accommodations, food options, and a gas station that was open and actually had gas the day before we drove home.

I ran off some storm stress last Wed. around Flamingo Crossings - it’s a great place to run. Lots of sidewalks. Pedestrian overpasses over what could be busy roads.

Hit WDW for a few hours Friday when it reopened after the hurricane and boy, did that do me some good! A little slice of normalcy in what will be a very long period of nothing like normalcy as we recover. I can’t wait to get back.
I really like the Flamingo Crossings area also. When we found out this past MW on how close it was to CSR, we went there several times to the Target for drinks, snacks, etc. Looks like there was many food options in the area also. We originally had rooms booked at the Springhill Suites for the first part of our trip, but decided to change when we got the AP discount. Definitely wouldn't hesitate to stay there for an offsite option.

Best wishes in the recovery from the hurricanes.
 
I really like the Flamingo Crossings area also. When we found out this past MW on how close it was to CSR, we went there several times to the Target for drinks, snacks, etc. Looks like there was many food options in the area also. We originally had rooms booked at the Springhill Suites for the first part of our trip, but decided to change when we got the AP discount. Definitely wouldn't hesitate to stay there for an offsite option.

Best wishes in the recovery from the hurricanes.
Thank you!

I’m tempted to go with Flamingo for MW, but not being able to use Western Way to get to WDW during the marathon road closures is tripping me up. The alternate route is looking like 30+ minutes, which I guess isn’t that bad…
 
Glad you made it through the hurricane okay, @PrincessV. It's been super stressful and I hope we don't have to do it again any time soon!

I drive by Flamingo Crossings a lot to get to WDW from our house near Champions Gate. It's definitely getting built up there and seems like a nice place to get away from the hustle and bustle. My one warning would be DO NOT try to exit Disney World during weekday rush hour. The number of workers leaving property makes Western Way back up like crazy.
 
Race Report – Cape Fear 24 Hour Endurance Challenge

This weekend was my fall A race, the Cape Fear 24 Hour Endurance Challenge. The race is run in a small park in Lillington, NC which has a 0.59 mile paved loop that you complete as many times as possible in 24 hours. There’s one well-stocked central aid station at the start/finish line. You qualify for a medal if you complete 100k and a belt buckle if you surpass 100 miles.

I ran this race last year and it featured 8.5+ hours of heavy rain at the start that caused all manner of things to go wrong. This year, fortunately, the weather was fantastic, starting off around 45 degrees, rising to near 80 and then falling back into the upper 40s with perfectly clear skies.

I went into this race with the goal of taking a shot at 100 miles, but ready to take 100k as a win, if it didn’t work out. I didn’t think my training would really support a solid chance at the 100 mile mark, but I wanted to give it a try. I started out with my normal pattern of running a mile and then walking a minute. I went out too fast in the nice, cool conditions, which were probably the first really nice running weather we’ve had here since last spring. All went well until the temperature hit the 70s under the full sun with very little humidity. At that point I started having problems with my mouth drying out completely, making it very difficult to take in food because I just couldn’t chew and swallow much of anything. I subsisted on orange slices, grapes and Gatorade through most of the daylight hours, as a result, and those aren’t the most calorie-dense items for sustaining the effort I was putting out.

As darkness fell, I was slowing down my running and walking intervals and it was very apparent that 100 miles was going to be out of reach. I decided at that point to just finish out the remainder of the 100k and call it a day. I finished just after midnight and am pretty happy with the result, overall. I could’ve gone longer, but the miles between 62 and when I finished would’ve been largely empty and put more strain on recovery and readiness for the upcoming Wine & Dine races.

At this point, I think I’ve pretty well determined that the 100k mark is the (un)comfortable ceiling given my training based on an @DopeyBadger plan with a 16 mile maximum long run. I can go further if I supplement the training with a significant volume of additional walking, but my job has prevented me from doing that consistently lately. At this point, I’ll likely table any more 100 mile attempts until I have the time to devote to additional training (maybe after retirement).

All in all, though, I’m very happy with the race and consider it a success. It was my 10th ultra and 5th of 100k or longer.

I definitely recommend the race to anyone interested. It has all levels of runner out there, with many people camping along the side of the course and dropping in and out as they want. Some folks even had a bar set up with a regular drink schedule. The Campbell University School of Osteopathic Medicine has an RV that sets up with a professor and med students giving on-course support for issues and keeping runners on the course, as well! There ended up being ~20 100 mile finishers and the winner completed 139 miles in the allotted 24 hours, a new course record!

Thanks for reading!
Great job! Congrats!

which has a 0.59 mile paved loop that you complete as many times as possible in 24 hours
This may be my my idea of hell. :)
 
Glad you made it through the hurricane okay, @PrincessV. It's been super stressful and I hope we don't have to do it again any time soon!

I drive by Flamingo Crossings a lot to get to WDW from our house near Champions Gate. It's definitely getting built up there and seems like a nice place to get away from the hustle and bustle. My one warning would be DO NOT try to exit Disney World during weekday rush hour. The number of workers leaving property makes Western Way back up like crazy.
I accidentally landed in what I assume was a “light” versions of that traffic Saturday - holy moly! It looked real bad, but wound up moving faster than GPS thought it would. The upside of race weekends is that I’m eating dinner at my hotel and getting ready for bed during rush hour, lol!

The only real alternatives to Western Way are I4 + 429 or 192, right? So basically, see how things look via GPS and pick your poison?
 
I accidentally landed in what I assume was a “light” versions of that traffic Saturday - holy moly! It looked real bad, but wound up moving faster than GPS thought it would. The upside of race weekends is that I’m eating dinner at my hotel and getting ready for bed during rush hour, lol!

The only real alternatives to Western Way are I4 + 429 or 192, right? So basically, see how things look via GPS and pick your poison?
Pretty much. You can also take Sherbeth that takes you to Osceola Parkway.

There are other options if you’re coming from the MK area, Vista Way routes you toward Disney Springs and you can take the hotel loop behind MK.
 
We have stayed regularly at Flamingo Crossings since the first hotels was built (TownePlace and SpringHill Suites). There was nothing across the street where the target is now, and no Disney housing. Our family called it a "hidden Mickey" because it was so close to the parks and the rooms were so cheap.
Unfortunately, nothing is hidden now; Western Way and Avalon roads often turn into long thin parking lots.
 
We have stayed regularly at Flamingo Crossings since the first hotels was built (TownePlace and SpringHill Suites). There was nothing across the street where the target is now, and no Disney housing. Our family called it a "hidden Mickey" because it was so close to the parks and the rooms were so cheap.
Unfortunately, nothing is hidden now; Western Way and Avalon roads often turn into long thin parking lots.
You’d think they would’ve planned for the extra traffic…


:rotfl2:

Sorry, right, no - we don’t do that here in FL! It will all be under construction in a year to add one lane less than what’s needed for the next decade. :rolleyes:
 












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