The Running Thread - 2016

[bananabean]

Right now, I'm not showing any available. I think that's because I am testing. My husband says he can see a stability road shoe and a neutral trail shoe.

Thanks for the info. Sounds pretty interesting.

 

[opusone]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

If I'm training properly, I guess I am a jogger at least 80% of the time since 80% of the time/distance should be at an easy pace. So, I would preferred to be called "80%-jogger/20%-runner" or maybe just "part-time runner."

Bonus QOTD (BQOTD): What is the worse thing a coach or similar type role has said to you?

Sometimes it's what's not said. After one meet (springboard diving) where my performance was definitely less than spectacular, my coach came up to me and said, "Well..." and that was it. Nothing else.

 

[CheapRunnerMike]

But what if they called you WealthyJoggerMike?

haha I might be able to get behind that

It's just that I hear "jogger" and this is what comes to mind;

 

[cavepig]

I'll make sure never to hand one to you.

Good!

To each their own.
I also don't feel it's something fitting for race volunteering for volunteers to spend hours of their time trying to be helpful, only to have Runners act like JAs to them - especially at the Expo.
If they don't want it or throw it away, so be it......

Apparently, I'm the only one who doesn't agree with this monetary 'custom', & that's fine with me, I'll move on....


...As for calling me a jogger doesn't matter to me, but a lot of uppity ups do use it to degrade people they see below their fitness level, that I do mind.

 

[Keels]

Bonus QOTD (BQOTD): What is the worse thing a coach or similar type role has said to you?

I played golf in high school, and our home course was also Arnold Palmer'/ home course, so he'd come out every day to watch us on the driving range before we'd start our rounds.

One day, he rolled his golf cart up behind me (he had his dog with him too!) and asked me:
"Miss, have you ever seen a duck play golf?"
Me: "No, sir. I haven't."
AP: "Then tuck those elbows in."

After that, he'd never really say much to me other than generalities in passing. But he'd roll by in his golf cart and start flapping his arms like he was doing the chicken dance every time he saw me.

 

[ZellyB]

haha I might be able to get behind that

It's just that I hear "jogger" and this is what comes to mind;

Wait, that's not what we are supposed to look like while running?

Also, I'm pretty sure I had a wind suit that looked exactly like that in 1982.

 

[LSUlakes]

All in the context and tone of the statement. To some people jogging is a good pursuit and synonymous with running. For others, it is intended in a flippant or demeaning way. Not too hard to tell one from the other.

ETA: And I find that the people making the second type of comment rarely have a nice thing to say about anything and don't cause me any worry.

This is a excellent answer!

Iron Cowboy? He had lots of fanfare in the triathlon world I can assure you!

I guess that is his name. First time I heard of it being done and I was very impressed.

Sometimes it's what's not said. After one meet (springboard diving) where my performance was definitely less than spectacular, my coach came up to me and said, "Well..." and that was it. Nothing else.

Ouch..

I played golf in high school, and our home course was also Arnold Palmer'/ home course, so he'd come out every day to watch us on the driving range before we'd start our rounds.

One day, he rolled his golf cart up behind me (he had his dog with him too!) and asked me:
"Miss, have you ever seen a duck play golf?"
Me: "No, sir. I haven't."
AP: "Then tuck those elbows in."

After that, he'd never really say much to me other than generalities in passing. But he'd roll by in his golf cart and start flapping his arms like he was doing the chicken dance every time he saw me.

I know that was not a nice thing to hear, but it is a cool story. I also played golf in HS. It was a lot of fun as I also worked at our home course during the summers. Some really good memories from that place!

 

[roxymama]

ATTQOTD: I don't think I've been called a jogger but I've called myself a jogger. Not in a mean way. "I'm going for a jog" is a usual phrase that leaves my mouth. Now, if I was going full blast during a race while gunning for a PR and "feeling myself" and someone on the sidelines said "Oh, look at that jogger" then I'd be perturbed. Its all in context.

I love @opusone answer of 80% jogger....I identify with this!

BQOTD: I had a "spirited" crew coach, but he didn't bug me much until I became the stroke for my boat (that's the person that everyone else is behind and has to follow essentially what I'm doing...the pacer of the boat is a good way to think of it.) Well, all of a sudden everyone's mistake was my mistake. There was a lot of very loud yelling of my maiden name followed by not kind things. Lots of oars going verbally into people's orifices. RYAN! Your 3 seat was late. RYAN! Your 4's digging too much. RYAN! Get the oar out of your partners a@#...etc. So my answer is my last name was the "bad thing I was called" I liked being invisible in the middle of the boat and didn't realize it until too late. Haha...(I laugh now)

 

[IamTrike]

I agree that volunteering is about giving your time and energy to do something for a race/event/charity/whatever. Never said it wasn't. I happen to believe, as does @Keels and as do many triathletes, that thanking the volunteers can be more than just a simple thank you. If you think it's strange to thank a stranger for volunteering to help you by giving them a small token of appreciation, then don't. Those of us who do think it's a nice gesture and spreads some goodness will continue to do so.

I'm reading a book called Predictably Irrational now. It's about Behavioral Economics. It actually has a whole chapter on volunteering. It was pretty interesting, the basic premise of the chapter was that in general people either do things from a financial perspective or a social perspective and it's pretty Boolean. They gave examples of companies that couldn't find volunteers when they offered a small financial incentive, but they got lots of volunteers when they took the financial incentive away. Based on what they described most people would like the gift card unless the viewed it as payment for volunteering. So a spectator giving a volunteer something good. A organizer giving a volunteer something = not good unless the thing given has a greater $ value than their time.

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

Nope. I figure there are lots of people faster than me and lots of people slower than me. My race pace is much slower than some people's relaxed pace and my relaxed pace is faster than other peoples race pace.

Bonus QOTD (BQOTD): What is the worse thing a coach or similar type role has said to you?

The first time I walked into one of my local stores and mentioned I was interested in trying on shoes the clerk said very loudly " you don't look like a runner"...

I think we all could use a little surprise kindness in any point in our lives.

Yes. I think it's cool. It's like bringing a little Disney magic to that person. I don't think anyone would advocate being a JA to any volunteer. That being said I think Disney could offer a 10 minute class on things volunteers should and shouldn't say to people during a race especially past mile 20 of the marathon.

Good: You got this, great job, you can do it etc...
Bad: Its a race "run!", stop walking you got this, speed up! etc...

 

[roxymama]

@Keels I played golf in high school too!

I went to a coach during the summer who did like green screen video analysis in the attic area of a barn at a course. And he kept saying I had an athletic shape, which to a 15 year old girl doesn't translate well. I'd take it as a compliment now, but back then...OOF.

 

[Barca33Runner]

@Keels I played golf in high school too!

Golfer here too, although it was insanely popular at my school (over 100 people tried out every year, more than the football team, when I was there) and I only made the team twice. I was option #12-15 on a 6-person team, which explains my earlier answer about the coach never taking much interest.

 

[Dis5150]

ATTQOTD: I agree it is all in how someone is calling you a jogger. I also think of windsuits lol! Mine was aqua and pink! I run after work sometimes and people who are getting off pass me in their cars. The following day a lady (the same lady who asked me if I was going to win my "marathon")mentioned seeing me and asked me how far I walked every day. And I was instantly irritated! "I RUN, X miles, depending on the day of the week," I told her. Later I thought, she probably passes me when I'm on my walk intervals, since I am very consistent with my schedule. I don't know why it irritated me so much, lol.

 

[Ariel484]

Good: You got this, great job, you can do it etc...
Bad: Its a race "run!", stop walking you got this, speed up! etc...

Those bad ones...I have heard all of them!! Especially the first two. Jeff Galloway, people!!

 

[michigandergirl]

QOTD: I'm a little bit bugged about being called a jogger, even though I think I look like I'm jogging, I FEEL like I'm running!

Bonus QOTD: My senior year in high school, the coach cut me from the varsity softball team because I didn't play on his summer league team (I had a lifeguarding job). When I complained to the AD, the coach lied and said it was because I had a bad attitude. That totally ruined my senior year and I swear to this day, if I ever run into him somewhere I will punch him in the face!

 

[preciouspups]

Hmmm... I con't care if someone calls me a jogger, I've been called worse!

I've never played sports so a coach has never yelled at me. However, high school pe was a terribly painful time! I spent elementary and middle school in a school that never had sports and barely had pe so when I went to a large public high school, I was a disaster. Those girls and the gym teacher were brutal! But, karma is my friend... I now run and those girls in gym class now sit on their sofa gaining weight.

I think I may have solved my knee issue. I had purchased some inserts for pf and put them in an older pair of running shoes that I was using for walking and just cross training/getting to and from the gym. As soon as I walked in them today, my knee started to hurt.

 

[PCFriar80]

@Keels I played golf in high school too!

I went to a coach during the summer who did like green screen video analysis in the attic area of a barn at a course. And he kept saying I had an athletic shape, which to a 15 year old girl doesn't translate well. I'd take it as a compliment now, but back then...OOF.

I caddied in High School but after a while a had to get real job at Friendlys!

 

[tigger536]

in my opinion it wouldn't be that impressive because the plan involves pacers which lessen the burden on the runner when they can draft. do it without pacers and then I'll accept it.

Also not in an actual race - they set the day, time and place. With a race you have set variables of the weather and time and are stuck with what you get. Also the factor of more people. Still impressive though! I can only dream of a two hour HALF!

 

[tigger536]

ATTQOTD: No being called a jogger is fine. The question that really bugs me is, did you run the whole thing or did you have to walk?
Um, run walk run, so, yes.

Bonus ATTQOTD: That would be my gym coach in high school. I almost failed PE (yes ) in 9th grade because my mile was so slow. I had to come back after school and try again. He was just very discouraging in general. Totally turned me off running for a long time.

 

[IamTrike]

in my opinion it wouldn't be that impressive because the plan involves pacers which lessen the burden on the runner when they can draft. do it without pacers and then I'll accept it.

I don't know that I'd say running a sub two hour full marathon isn't impressive under any circumstances. Certainly doing it in a race would be even more impressive, but I think before it can be done in a race they are trying to prove that it can be done at all.

 

[tigger536]

I think we all could use a little surprise kindness in any point in our lives.

THIS! I'm excited to do this too. Just a little gesture to brighten someone's day. Plus even if they don't drink coffee, there other things at Starbucks. I just discovered the snickerdoodle white chocolate hot chocolate. YUM!