The Running Thread - 2016

[LSUlakes]

New article today from wired about a Nike team trying for the 2 hour marathon!
https://www.wired.com/2016/12/nike-two-hour-marathon/?mbid=social_twitter

Read about this yesterday. Not a whole lot of information about it yet, but I think taking ~3 minutes of the current WR in the next few months is probably not going to happen. It's great publicity for the sport and I will likely watch the event to see if it can be done. However if Vegas was taking bets on this one I would go with the over.



Unrelated to the above. I have a stack of Runners World magazines that I am catching up on and was reading an article that's nearly a year old now. Do yall remember the guy who ran 50 marathons in 50 consecutive days? Well this guy from the article did 50 Ironman events in 50 consecutive days with a lots less as far as sponsorship money and personnel. That's very impressive! The article also mentioned that on one day he fell asleep 30 miles into the bike ride and crashed. That's gotta be some kind of tired to be riding a bike and fall asleep. Anyway, people are awesome with the things they can do to push the physical limits of their bodys.

 

[Ariel484]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

Nah. As I've gotten older, I've started trying really hard to not put much stock into what others think of me. Life is way better!

 

[ZellyB]

I don't care what anybody decides to call me. Jogger, runner, run/walker whatever. It's just a name.

I've never really had a coach for anything. Never did sports in school and only came to running in my late 40s, so nobody has ever really said anything that bad to me. I sometimes have my family who just say they think I should stop running because it's too hard on my body, but I can just ignore them. They're family.

 

[Chaitali]

I have a running jacket I wear when it gets in to the 30s or below. It's from the clearance rack at Target but it does the job well. I like that it has a good amount of pockets and that it successfully keeps me warm enough to run in the chilly winter mornings. As someone else mentioned, it's close fitting so it doesn't catch the wind. And this will be the third Winter of wearing it so it's lasted pretty well.

I don't mind the jogger thing. As someone else said, it's generally people who don't run and just aren't familiar with the terminology. I have an uncle that always calls it walking which is a little weird to me. But either way, it doesn't bother me too much.

 

[Barca33Runner]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

All in the context and tone of the statement. To some people jogging is a good pursuit and synonymous with running. For others, it is intended in a flippant or demeaning way. Not too hard to tell one from the other.

ETA: And I find that the people making the second type of comment rarely have a nice thing to say about anything and don't cause me any worry.

Bonus QOTD (BQOTD): What is the worse thing a coach or similar type role has said to you?

Was never good enough at anything for a coach to ever really care what I was doing.

 

[disneydaydreamer33]

ATTQOTD: Being called a jogger definitely doesn't bother me. I don't know what the technical definition is for "jogger" but I'm pretty sure I would qualify for it which is fine with me!

I had a very funny, flashy cheer coach, and I can remember some of the nicknames he called my fellow cheerleaders, but I don't think I was special enough for my own nickname

 

[MommaoffherRocker]

All in the context and tone of the statement. To some people jogging is a good pursuit and synonymous with running. For others, it is intended in a flippant or demeaning way. Not too hard to tell one from the other

I agree with this, if it someone who is using it as a general term about running it doesn't bother me but if they are saying I am a jogger because I am slow then I have a problem.

 

[camaker]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Maybe I'm too sloppy with my verbiage, but I consider the terms interchangeable until you get significantly faster than me...

 

[Miranda]

ATTQOTD: Yeah, it's all about the delivery. In a vacuum, jogging is not a term that bugs me, but when it's used to denigrate (e.g. any mention of "hobby joggers" on letsrun), then it bugs me. Even if it is an apt description.

 

[CheapRunnerMike]

Unrelated to the above. I have a stack of Runners World magazines that I am catching up on and was reading an article that's nearly a year old now. Do yall remember the guy who ran 50 marathons in 50 consecutive days? Well this guy from the article did 50 Ironman events in 50 consecutive days with a lots less as far as sponsorship money and personnel. That's very impressive! The article also mentioned that on one day he fell asleep 30 miles into the bike ride and crashed. That's gotta be some kind of tired to be riding a bike and fall asleep. Anyway, people are awesome with the things they can do to push the physical limits of their bodys.

Iron Cowboy? He had lots of fanfare in the triathlon world I can assure you!

 

[opusone]

in my opinion it wouldn't be that impressive because the plan involves pacers which lessen the burden on the runner when they can draft. do it without pacers and then I'll accept it.

When I first read this post, I was planning on disagreeing with it, but after reading the linked article, I completely agree. In my mind, they need to comply with USATF rules in order to make it official. Pacers ARE allowed in USATF events (hence why I was originally going to disagree), so the act of drafting is perfectly legal in running; however, all pacers MUST START at the beginning of the race. Therefore, they are not complying by allowing pacers to jump in and out during the race: "with teams of pacemakers entering and leaving the race lap by lap." Except for this, everything else that they are doing seems fine.

 

[rteetz]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

No not really, however I have never really been called a jogger by someone. I don't talk about my running all that much with people outside my family.

 

[RunDisneyDad]

ATTQOTD: I think I'd be pretty meh about being called a jogger. It wouldn't bother me.

Bonus - When I was in HS the baseball coach went around passing out forms for us to fill out so college coaches would have information on us to decide if they wanted to recruit us. When the coach got to me he said, RunDisneyDad, you are going to UT (Texas) for academics and moved on to the next person. Basically he was saying I had zero chance of playing college baseball. I mean, he was 100% correct, but still, at least fake it!

 

[FFigawi]

If I was a volunteer it would make me feel awkward, plus I can see many getting thrown out as not everyone uses Starbucks or whatever you may choose to hand out. Once it's a monetary value it's not a small token it's money, which feeds into the give me society that is all ready a problem of me me me & takes away from the volunteer giving. As I said to each their own, it's just not something I think is fitting for race volunteering.

I'll make sure never to hand one to you.

 

[Miranda]

Iron Cowboy? He had lots of fanfare in the triathlon world I can assure you!

I remember him... I follow a few of his sponsors on FB (Altra, Jaybird) so I used to see updates about him quite a lot. It was an impressive feat!

 

[PrincessV]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

Nope, couldn't care less. I started running (jogging) in the early 80s when Jogging was THE thing - nowadays we call it Running but I'm still doing the same thing, lol!

Bonus QOTD (BQOTD): What is the worse thing a coach or similar type role has said to you?

Head of my ballet school, around age 12: "You'll never have the body of a ballerina." Painful... but true. I'm short, I put on muscle easily, and no matter how thin I ever was, I simply wasn't ever going to have the long, lean lines the ballet world demanded. At the time it made me mad, which made me work that much harder, which made me a better dancer. In hindsight, I'm thankful - she was 100% right and trying to make a career in the ballet would have been next to impossible; it was better to acknowledge and accept that early on than to live in denial and miss out on the many adventures life brought to me when I ended that quest a few years later.

 

[Keels]

If I was a volunteer it would make me feel awkward, plus I can see many getting thrown out as not everyone uses Starbucks or whatever you may choose to hand out. Once it's a monetary value it's not a small token it's money, which feeds into the give me society that is all ready a problem of me me me & takes away from the volunteer giving. As I said to each their own, it's just not something I think is fitting for race volunteering.

To each their own.

I also don't feel it's something fitting for race volunteering for volunteers to spend hours of their time trying to be helpful, only to have Runners act like JAs to them - especially at the Expo.

If they don't want it or throw it away, so be it. But I think you're completely missing the point of why I am choosing to do this. I'm not going to spend five days "making it rain" gift cards all over the Expo and four races. I'm not hoping to set some massive precedent where every water table volunteer is expecting copious amounts of free gifts when they hand out a half-filled cup of PowerAde. It's about doing something nice, something unexpected - putting some extra good out there in the world and hoping it carries on to the next person.

I think we all could use a little surprise kindness in any point in our lives.

 

[run.minnie.miles]

ATTQOTD: I don't think it would bother me. I am still a "shy" runner, so I have a bad habit of downplaying my running to non-runners.

BQOTD: I had a terrible middle school volleyball coach. She was so incredibly competitive (and mean) and had no patience for teaching girls the fundamentals. I vividly remember her spiking a volleyball right at me and it breaking my glasses and causing my braces to cut up my mouth something awful. Glasses and braces... cool, huh? Ha!

 

[CheapRunnerMike]

QOTD: Does it bother you if someone calls you a jogger (or reference running as jogging)?

I hate it.

 

[Keels]

I hate it.

But what if they called you WealthyJoggerMike?