The Official New Mom Thread Part 2

[floridafam]

DisneyPhD,

If I have to have one, this will be my third root canal in 2 years. UGH! I have no idea why all of the sudden my teeth are doing this. Right now, the pain is only when I drink something cold so it's not at the emergency point yet. My Dentist is on vacation until Tuesday so we will see what happens.


val,

I hope you are feeling better soon!

 

[DisneyPhD]

FF, maybe then it is something else. If it is a RC your Dentist should of seen this coming.

What really gets me mad is when people say "why do you have such bad teeth?" Like I neglect them or something. I take better care of my teeth then most people I know, much better then DH. He went 5 years not going to the Dentist and finally went a few weeks ago. NOTHING. Not one cavitity. I could of killed him, but I was relived.

Oral B sells this over the counter treatment for teeth sensitive. It cost about $10, they sell it at any Drug store. It helps. I would give that a try until Tuesday. Until then Advil is your friend. Sometimes not know is the worst part.

 

[bengalbelle]

So, first off the baby girl is doing good. Whew. They monitored the baby all night at hospital, and the doctors said she had a BAD case of acid reflux!!!!
So, you new mommies must guess......??......that the baby was having terrible reaction to some the mom ate or drank? Wow. Well, the doctors said it would be okay for them to try again on flying out to Mid-west (is Indiana in the 'mid-west'?)...............

I've been lurking here on and off for a few months and thought I'd finally join in with this post. I recognize a few of you from the Moms to Be Thread , but for everyone else:
My name is Dawn and I have an almost 6 year old son, Christopher, and a 4 month old daughter, Caroline. We're all crazy for Disney, and we're going back in mid February to celebrate Christopher's 6th birthday. I'm paying our trip in full today!

I look forward to getting to know all of you.

Hermosa, this sounds so similar to what happened to Caroline when she was a week old. She had a forceful episode of reflux, choked and had a seizure. She spent 5 days in the NICU undergoing lots of tests to try to determine the cause of the seizure. They eventually determined it was caused by lack of oxygen from the reflux.

Was the baby strapped in the infant carrier when this happened? That is the worst place for Caroline. She's had several choking episodes in the carrier. The most important thing we learned was to never go anywhere without a bulb syringe. We have about 10 of them and they're stashed everywhere. When she vomits/spits up we use the syringe to help clear her nose and mouth so she doesn't lose oxygen.

I have lots of information that may be helpful for your friend's baby. If you're interested in passing it on, please PM me.

 

[floridafam]

DisneyPhD,

I know. I take VERY good care of my teeth. I had braces when I was younger and that may have something to do with it (or so I've heard.) Did you have braces as a child?

Thank goodness for dental insurance. We would be lost without it. I have one tooth in my mouth that has over $6,000 invested in it. I had to have a second root canal on the same tooth I had a root canal on when I was pregnant with Kona because I had an extra canal. The endodontist who did that one charged almost $2000.

 

[DisneyPhD]

FF, you know I never had braces, but I did have a retainer that "fixed" my teeth. Even with ver good dental insurance my teeth are costing us so much. We have a 1500 cap for the year. Since one RT and a few other small things reached that, we are waiting for July when my insurnce starts again to put the crown on since it will be another 1,000. At least I like my new dentist now and she thought all my old work was nessasry. I had a root cannel pregnant too. How terrible was that? Like I wasn't sick enough to start with.

Hermosa, something I was wondering about last night was if the baby had any shots a few days before. Sometimes seizure can be a rare and bad effect of them. If she did it is important to find out, because having the same shot again could have bad or worse effects. Or maybe it is just what bengalbelle said.

and on that note, Welcome bengalbelle! Congrats.

 

[llij]

Hi Everyone and a Belated Merry Christmas!

We got in late last night and had a very wonderful trip! Thankfully, no one else got sick on the trip. My dad and I were so sick that on the Monday we were supposed to leave that I literally couldn't envision us going on the trip. We were so close to cancelling, but I'm glad that we didn't and it worked out in the end.

I ran into Justine and her family on the friendship boats while at WDW which was great! I was hoping to see J&D on Tuesday night, but she was getting in too late for me to meet her.

The trip was a lot of fun and I didn't think the crowds were bad at all. It was definitely crowded but I was expecting worse. It rained on Christmas so that might have kept the crowds down. John was a dream on the trip and he seemed to enjoy himself. The girls had a great time as usual and it was nice to see Disney at a slow pace and soak up the atmosphere.

Since I was still feeling under the weather when I left for WDW, I forgot a lot of things and I forgot to bring my camera. Ugh! My dad brought his so I borrowed it, but sadly I didn't take as many pictures as I had hoped. When I see my dad again, I'll get copies and post a few.

I hope that all of you wonderful ladies are doing well (and healthy) and had a wonderful Christmas!

GLT - I picked up a few small things for the kids and I will ship them out soon. Also, I e-mailed my sister and she wanted me to let you know that she's been having e-mail problems lately. She said if you want to talk, I can give you her phone number. She sends her best to you and would love to help in any way she can.

Z - I'm so sorry about your dad. I hope that he makes it through to the New Year for you.

Gems - Got the toppers for you!

Robin - I looked everywhere for calendars, but they are sold out! I'm so sorry about that! I looked in WoD store, MouseGear, The Emporium, AKL, BW, YC, BC and every place I could but everyone told me that they were popular and sold out. Ugh.

Well, I better run! I've got about a million loads of laundry to do! I hope that you all are doing well! I will try to catch up soon!

Can you believe that I go back to school in 3 weeks from today? Ick.

 

[Strawberry Lemonade]

Happy birthday, Connor!!!

Bengalbelle - and congratulations! Caroline is my absolute favorite girl name and that's what DS would have been named if he was a girl. Your DD is precious!

val - Glad you're feeling a little bit better.

justhat - I loved the portraits of Madison and Henry.

ff - Sorry about your tooth.

DisneyPhD - I hope Lily feels better soon.

DisKim - You've reminded me that I want to hit our Coach outlet one of these days. I want a new wallet to go with my new bag. Great pictures!

I've had a busy morning trying to get back into the normal routine after the holidays so I have to go back and read all the drama on the thread this morning. I just want to re-emphasize that this is NOT an "exclusive" or "private" thread. Anyone's welcome, and I don't think it's unreasonable to get upset at someone who appears to be upsetting the environment we've set up here. If that makes any sense.

 

[Ginamarie]

Hey guys… I was deliberately not responding to this thread because of what was going on, and since I didn’t really want to insult anyone by writing rashly. Icebrat- I hope you know that the women here are genuine people and give advice based on their own experiences and childbearing techniques. My experience has NOT been that the regulars here will say things just to placate you.
Personally, I am a strong believer in the fact that every child is different. That’s why two children raised in the same environment at the same time can turn out completely differently. I’ve helped raise several children, even though Olivia is my first natural child, and worked in child care for a couple of years. As far as “Reactive Attachment Disorder” goes, I would never start diagnosing conditions like that for someone. People are so quick to “diagnose” things these days, and my opinion is that a lot of these terms are just that- TERMS. There are actually companies out there whose sole purpose is to come up with terms to describe things so that people can diagnose themselves. I kid you not! These companies label a set of “symptoms” that people will relate to. Then, you can go out and get the right kind of therapist or the right kind of medication for that specific diagnosis. Honestly, this Reactive Attachment Disorder sound like a bunch of BS to me, because I’ve seen plenty of children go through tough times at a young age only to wind up fine in the end. You just can’t apply something like that to every child.
The thing is, life, mental status, and health just aren’t that easy. You can’t always figure out the “condition” someone is suffering from and pick the right treatment for the condition and then be cured. While therapy might help Tess, it also might not help her, and to say that unless you get her into therapy immediately she’s going to suffer is RIDICULOUS. Some children are more resilient than others, some are more sensitive, and different children will shut down in different circumstances.
No one will dispute that Tess has to go through a transition period, but I sincerely believe that if you keep loving her and paying attention to what she’s going through, you’re going to get through this.

Kdibattista- I’m sorry if you feel attacked by the thread, but it seemed to most of us that you replied on this thread just to say that icebrat might be doing the wrong thing by adopting Tess “without parenting classes or training.” We’ve been speaking with icebrat since she first mentioned possibly adopting Tess, and watched her go through the process of deciding if this was the right thing for her and her partner to do.
As far as Tess’ acting out goes, take it from a bunch of experienced moms, we go through this all the time. Tess’ reasons for being upset may be more deep rooted, but the fact of the matter is, sometimes kids will spend a couple of hours being miserable, and making us miserable.. and there are moments when you might think to yourself “if I don’t turn off the volume on this child within the next five minutes, my head is going to explode!” This is normal; HARD, but normal. The saving grace, is that we all love our children and even when it’s painful to help them get over something, we’re going to try 110% to do it, because we want them to be happy.
I agree with DisKim in that Tess is not going to continue screaming for every hour of every day. I don’t care how mentally unstable a child is, eventually they have to move onto something else. Two year olds know that they miss their mom, but they also know that certain toys are fun to play with or when they’re hungry – they’re going to focus on something else at some point, and then you have to be positive about the new activity.
As far as the women on this thread go, these are some of the finest people I’ve ever found on the internet (and in life). After I had my DD I found this group, and even though it had been several hundred pages of correspondence before I said hello, I was welcomed in whole heartedly. TO call them “exclusive” is just ridiculous.


Now, onto happier things

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CONNOR!!!!!!

Tykes- Great news about the ipod!!

Tasha- great pictures!

DisKim- I’d rather shop than gamble too. Your tree is beautiful.

FloridaFam- I hope your tooth starts feeling better.

Val- Sorry you were sick for Christmas. LOL at the 20 questions ball. It sounds like fun.

Bengalbelle- WELCOME!! I love planning new trips.

Jill- Glad you wound up having a good time in WDW!


OK, I wanted to post some updates of my own, but I’m seriously out of time and Olivia needs some lunch now. I’ll be back!

 

[Alice28]

Hi BengalBelle, and WELCOME to our happy little thread! I promise we are drama free....your kids are cute!

Jill- Welcome Back! Glad the crowds weren't too bad. Gives me hope for when we go near Easter time! Not a worry about the calendar. I will just grab one when I'm shopping today.

FF- I'm so sorry about your tooth; I hope it's not a root canal.

I also need to pipe up- I am *proud* of our thread and my friends here on it. I have been here since the inception, over two years ago, on the Moms to Be thread....I've known some of these ladies for 2+ years now. NONE of them have ever been rude or excluding to any prospective poster, because it seems all posters have been the same- kind and courteous that is. We welcome new moms all the time on this thread and I'm sorry you feel differently. I hope you (KD) will realize that we too are trying to support Tess, and I think we have all assumed that Ice is educated enough that she will know when Tess needs some counseling or add'l intervention. She's already been inquiring about it, and I think it was PhD who gave her some info. That's why we haven't been trying to shove advice down her throat, other than just regular ole' Mommy advice. Some of us are quick to defend each other and perhaps seem hostile to an outsider, because we truly see each other as good friends and good friends defend each other if they are put down by someone else. I'm sorry you feel like you cannot come back and join in with us when you get your daughter- I applaud you for adopting and congratulations on becoming a Mom.

And now- I gotta get outta here and go shopping! Love ya gals!

 

[Ilike2Lurk]

I’m sorry if you feel attacked by the thread, but it seemed to most of us that you replied on this thread just to say that icebrat might be doing the wrong thing by adopting Tess “without parenting classes or training.”

Well, I for one, think it IS the wrong thing to adopt this child without any parenting classes or training. This is a little girl "who would have been sold to the highest bidder" (according to Icebrat) if Icebrat001 and her partner wouldn't have taken her in They need help in dealing with her. They need help now.

It is not mean to say that. That is the truth.

You ladies are great, really you are. But we all have "normal" circumstances. It is nice that you have watched Icebrat011 "go through the process", but you (like myself) are just a bunch of nice mommies.

This situation goes beyond what color paint to use in a nursery or what Gymboree lines are the cutest. I was concerned right from the get go when these were the focus of Icebrat001's questions. I wanted to scream "You are taking in an abused child--There are other things to worry about!"

I know many of you felt the same. You were just afraid to state it, just like I was.

Well, I couldn't keep quiet any longer.

At the cost of upseting this happy little thread, I must say I think we are doing an injustice to this little girl by glossing over the serious issues at hand

 

[justhat]

Ya know how sometimes kids do something so bad you can't even react? Madison has just done one of those things. I took Henry upstairs for his nap and threw in a load of laundry while I was up there. Madison was downstairs playing with her Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and said she didn't want to come with me. Big, big mistake on my part! She took about 80% of the keys off of the keyboard of our laptop. Some of them I got to snap back on but others have a different mechanism and I don't know what to do. And one is missing a piece and I can't find it. We just bought the laptop in October so I'm less than happy about this.

DisneyPhD - Like I said, I was not saying this will be life for Tess since it was for my cousin. I was showing that it's not a necessity to take parenting classes or send the kid to therapy for every kid. As a child psychologist in (delayed) training I know how useful therapy can be and of course support it or it would mean the end of my career. But right now I think it's a bit premature to say that they can't handle things on their own cause Tess has only been with them a week and she's acting like any 2yo would in their own home with their parents. Jill happened to see us, thank gosh, when both my kids were sleeping in WDW but Madison threw a tantrum just like Tess that lasted almost 2 hours that same morning. Nothing we could do to control her and she sounded like a rabid animal. She did that about 2 or 3 other times on the trip too. And when I took a shower and left her downstairs with a babysitter once this summer she did the same thing. So add to that being displaced with strangers and you'll get some crazy behavior. I think Ginamarie did a great job of saying essentially what I'm trying to explain so I'll stop here and get back to fixing the keyboard.

 

[Tasha+Scott]

Wow! Well, I refuse to get involved in a parenting debate. I personally don't think taking parenting classes sounds like a terrible idea. Every kid is different. I'd say whatever helps. It could help and then it depends on the child and the caregiver. It may not help. Who knows? Kim, I would be more than happy to see you post here once you adopt your sweet little girl. You'll just have to realize that most everyone on here has known eachother a long time so when one person feels attacked most everyone does. I personally think the whole thing has gotten out of hand on both ends and I'm sorry you feel unwelcomed. Like I said, I don't personally have a problem with you. I do think you were only trying to help. It's just the way you responded to DisKim that was a little rude. If it had been worded differently it wouldn't have seemed so bad to everyone I'm sure. I don't think your advice was so terrible but everyone parents differently which explains why not everyone agrees of course. Ending my opinion there so that we may remain a peaceful thread. Sorry if I offended anyone. Not my intent at all!

As far as whoever I love to Lurk is...my smilies still aren't working or I'd roll my eyes. At least have the guts to use your own name! Geez! No need to hijack a friendly thread with an alterego.

Okay, moving on...I hope!

I didn't take Kylie to daycare today afterall. We were both too tired to get up. She has been really drained from all the activities this past week. So we slept in. I am going to take her grocery shopping with me in a little while. At least we will get that much accomplished! Maybe we'll start in on her old toys as well...if she'll cooperate.

Welcome bengalbelle!!!

Welcome back justhat and Jill! Jill, consider yourself lucky! I go back to school a week from Tues.! It has gone by way too fast. I have enjoyed the extra time with Kylie. She's only been to daycare twice since my break started and hasn't been at all in about 2 weeks so we have had plenty of quality time to say the least!

Okay, everyone, the audience challenge songs are posted for the WPASADI. Go vote if you haven't already!

 

[Ilike2Lurk]

As far as whoever I love to Lurk is...my smilies still aren't working or I'd roll my eyes. At least have the guts to use your own name! Geez! No need to hijack a friendly thread with an alterego.

And do you see why I have to use an alterego? I'd get the just for going against the grain.

Who is hijacking? Just offering my opinion. I spoke kindly. But my opinion was different from yours. Therefore I got the

A public THANKS to those who have PM'd me. You are very nice and wise women Don't be afraid to speak your minds.

Children first. Always.

 

[Hillbeans]

HI Ladies -

Welcome back Jill and Justine. How great that you both ran into each other in WDW. I was thinking of you both when I was curled up on the couch on Christmas Eve watching a special on the travel channel "CHristmas in WDW". I was amazed by all of the activities and decorations they put up in Epcot, and I was amazed at the life sized gingerbread house they do in the lobby of the GF.

Loretta - Happy Birthday Connor!!!! . I hope you have a great time at his party on Saturday. Also, I just need to say that you're a good friend.

Bengal - Welcome to the thread. I have an almost 6 year old and a 15 month old.

I have a few things i'd like to say also however just like Tasha, I will not get into a parenting debate. I have many friends and family who raise their children differently then I raise mine and I don't think there is one cookie cutter way to parent children. I think that Tess is already in a better situation than she came from and I don't think for a moment that Icebrat would ever give back a child into a obviously abusive situation with her old family. I would think that anyone who is adopting or fostering an older child has run into similar situations with tantrums, acting out, etc and while I also agree that therapy may be an option, I also think that over time, the situation will get better and things will improve. It is very obvious how much Icebrat and her DP care about Tess and have made her and her adjustment their absolute # 1 priority. I think it's a little harsh saying that all she cared about was what color paint to paint her room because haven't we all had that same thought in our mind months before we expected our children?

I'm sorry that our thread has taken an uncomfortable turn and I don't think Kim tried to deliberately hurt DisKim, IceBrat or anyone's feelings. I've been following some of Kim's adoption on the Adoption thread and she will no doubt make a great mother and has done a lot of research into the process. Sometimes things written rather than spoken come out a lot harsher than they are intended. With that being said though, I stand by Loretta and the rest of the mom's who say that we are NOT EXCLUSIVE, A CLIQUE, ETC and we welcome anyone and everyone to our thread however personal attacks can't and shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Ginamarie]

Well, I for one, think it IS the wrong thing to adopt this child without any parenting classes or training. This is a little girl "who would have been sold to the highest bidder" (according to Icebrat) if Icebrat001 and her partner wouldn't have taken her in They need help in dealing with her. They need help now.

It is not mean to say that. That is the truth.

You ladies are great, really you are. But we all have "normal" circumstances. It is nice that you have watched Icebrat011 "go through the process", but you (like myself) are just a bunch of nice mommies.

This situation goes beyond what color paint to use in a nursery or what Gymboree lines are the cutest. I was concerned right from the get go when these were the focus of Icebrat001's questions. I wanted to scream "You are taking in an abused child--There are other things to worry about!"

I know many of you felt the same. You were just afraid to state it, just like I was.

Well, I couldn't keep quiet any longer.

At the cost of upseting this happy little thread, I must say I think we are doing an injustice to this little girl by glossing over the serious issues at hand

OK, I'm not sure what you think "parenting classes" would do to assist in this situation AT ALL. Most "parenting classes" are set up for NORMAL children, without psychological issues. The majority of them are for parents expecting newborns, and teach people about diaper changing, food choices, carseats, burping, etc. None of these are problems that this family is having.

I think we've all known that it was going to be a long haul to get Tess adjusted, but they're only just now discovering what special needs Tess has. No amount of reading books or attending classes would have changed the fact that they have to deal with this as an ONGOING situation and take each problem as it comes up.

To say that icebrat was too unprepared to take Tess is silly. Are any of us fully "prepared" for motherhood? I don't think so. Until you're getting up at 2 am for nursing and changing diapers, well you don't know exactly what it is or the best way to deal without sleep. Would it be fair if someone had a developmentally challenged child and wasn't allowed to keep him/her because they weren't "prepared"? NO! We just all take the lot we're given and we try our best.

As far as "needing help", what amazes me is that so much of the world has no access to the things we take for granted, for basic healthcare, running water and sewers. There are orphans all over the world in terrible physical and emotional conditions, some so bad that those conditions will kill them. Those are children who "need help immediately." 50 years ago, there were no psychiatrists diagnosing attachment disorders, and most people still turned out ok, despite the challenges they may have had in early childhood.

I don't understand being afraid to voice your opinion around here. If I thought that icebrat could have used parenting classes to help her, I would have suggested it. Personally, I dont think they would have been helpful. She's been vocal about the fact that she can use suggestions on what to do in various situations and suggestions on how to best deal with things. So if you had some opinions on that, I don't know why you wouldn't share them. I also don't see the need to lurk behind another SN.

I mean we're free to disagree with each other around here. It doesn't make me like anyone any less! We don't all have the same opinion on the hot button topics (daycare vss SAHM, breastfeeding vs formula, etc) but somehow we talk about our lives as moms every single day without being offensive to each other or disliking each other for our personal opinions.

 

[Tasha+Scott]

And do you see why I have to use an alterego? I'd get the just for going against the grain.

Who is hijacking? Just offering my opinion. I spoke kindly. But my opinion was different from yours. Therefore I got the

A public THANKS to those who have PM'd me. You are very nice and wise women Don't be afraid to speak your minds.

Children first. Always.

Well, you'd be wrong about me. I am not rolling my eyes at you for your opinion in any way. I am rolling my eyes because you won't use your own name. I have more respect for Kim going against the grain (and I don't totally disagree with her opinion either...I'm just not wanting to cause a rift between the ladies on this thread) because at least she used her own name. I would be more than happy to hear what you have to say if you had the guts to do so under your true identity. I have said before that I don't think parenting classes or early intervention are a bad idea. I don't know if they would work for all children but I know I would sure be giving it a shot. Whatever works. I am not totally disagreeing with you. I just have more respect for those who don't hide behind fake IDs.

 

[katerkat]

I used to post on this thread, so I hope my opinion is welcome.

OK, I'm not sure what you think "parenting classes" would do to assist in this situation AT ALL. Most "parenting classes" are set up for NORMAL children, without psychological issues. The majority of them are for parents expecting newborns, and teach people about diaper changing, food choices, carseats, burping, etc. None of these are problems that this family is having.

"New parent" classes are not what KD is talking about. There are specific classes offered to adoptive parents, through the foster care system (DFAS/CPS/whatever) that deal with the issues that adoptive children/parents face. In order to adopt through foster care, most states require 30+ hours of classes, more if you're willing to foster/adopt a sexually abused child. There's all kinds of issues that the classes teach you how to deal with and prepare you for. I understand that Icebrat didn't get much of a chance to do this prior to the child arriving, but I think she should strongly consider at least getting involved in a foster-adoptive support group. These classes (not therapy for the child) can help her and her partner find ways to help Tess.

I'm an "experienced" parent and I don't get credit for the time I've raised Russ - if we adopt through the foster care system, we have to do the same classes as people who have never had a child - because it's just a totally different situation. Every profile I've read on adopting young child emphasizes the damage that can be done in the first two years, and how important it is to have an adoptive family that understands that.

I think KD and I and others just want to see Tess and Icebrat get help in dealign with this situation, because it's NOT like giving birth and dealing with the issues of a newborn.

 

[Ilike2Lurk]

I have more respect for Kim going against the grain (and I don't totally disagree with her opinion either...I'm just not wanting to cause a rift between the ladies on this thread) because at least she used her own name. .

And she was promptly put on public IGNORE by a poster who didn't agree with her. Also, she was treated in a very unwarm way. All for giving her very informative opinion

So, much for using your own name.

And now, I will unsubscribe.

For those who PM'd me, I cannot PM you back, as I am "new". They will not allow me to send PM's, only receive them.

But, thank you for your support.

 

[llij]

Hi Everyone!

Yes, I am taking a laundry break! I've missed a lot on this thread so I'm afraid I won't be able to catch up. I'll try though. Sorry if I miss anyone!

Z - I just want to wish Connor a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! I hope that he has a great day!

DisKim - Your dog is just too cute!!!

Hillbeans - The gingerbread house in the GF was very cute!! The decorations around WDW are great this time of year. BTW, I'm sorry to hear that you are down about some friend stuff. It is too bad that you didn't live closer to me b/c you sound like a great friend and it would be great to get to know you in person!

Tasha - Wow! You are going back to school quickly! I hope that you have a great semester!

FF - Sorry to hear about your tooth. My mom has terrible teeth problems and she is so diligent about taking care of them. She swears that some people just have teeth that need a lot of work. My teeth are good, but they go bad when I'm pregnant. When I was pregnant with Meagan, I had a root canal and five fillings. Up to that point I had never had any problems. Anyway, I feel for you. I hope you can survive until next Tuesday!

GLT - How was your Christmas? I was thinking of you.

IceBrat - Gosh, I'm sorry that you are having trouble with Tess. You've gotten a lot of good advice here and I know that what you are doing is in the best interest of Tess.

BengalBelle - Welcome!!

Val - I'm so sorry to hear that you are sick! I hope that you feel better soon.

Robin - You are going to have a wonderful trip in March! I wish I could go then too! SOG is awesome!!! After my many trips to WDW, I've decided that I can go anytime and have a great time. I always swore that I would never to go to WDW in the summer or during Christmas. Well, I went both times and had a ball. I think the key to the crowds is to go with a plan and go to the parks when they open. We did that and we were fine. The one exception was that we went to MK on Christmas Eve and it was packed in the afternoon. You could barely walk through Fantasyland, so we just left. I didn't ride as many rides as I have in the past, but I think that had to do with having John more than the crowds. Baby swap was great too! I digress....I think you are going to have so much fun!!!

Tamie - Have a great time in Mexico!

DisneyPhD - It's good to see you!

SL - I hope that the pay situation gets worked out!

Ginamarie - Sorry to hear that your dh got sick at WDW.

Bellacam - Glad to hear that everything worked out for Christmas!

Gems - Where are you? I hope that you are doing well!

Ok, gotta run. I hear John getting up from his nap! I know that I missed a bunch of you! I'm sorry!

Everyone have a wonderful day!

 

[Tasha+Scott]

And she was promptly put on public IGNORE by a poster who didn't agree with her. Also, she was treated in a very unwarm way. All for giving her very informative opinion

So, much for using your own name.

And now, I will unsubscribe.

For those who PM'd me, I cannot PM you back, as I am "new". They will not allow me to send PM's, only receive them.

But, thank you for your support.

You know, I tried to be welcoming to her. I know not everyone did so I do understand what you are saying. I don't really want to get into a parenting debate on this thread. We all have our own views on this thread but we have all been very good about respecting and supporting others and their views (even if we don't always agree) on this thread up until this point.

However, I do want to apologize to you as I do think I overreacted. I see why you don't want to use your name. I think it takes guts to do so and I stand by that but I understand why you do not wish to do so. I apologize if I attacked you or if you felt I did. I respect your opinion. I truly do. And I have nobody on my ignore list. Again, I'm sorry. I didn't want anyone to feel attacked on this thread and in turn I am guilty of doing the same. I hope you will accept my apology.