The Official New Mom Thread Part 2

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This situation goes beyond what color paint to use in a nursery or what Gymboree lines are the cutest. I was concerned right from the get go when these were the focus of Icebrat001's questions. I wanted to scream "You are taking in an abused child--There are other things to worry about!":guilty:

What a belittling comment! If you are a regular posting mommy from this thread, shame on you. While our day to day posts may be about Gymbo lines and paint colors, the have been times where we have had real problems and real situations where we where honest and supportive of each other. We do not all have normal lives or perfectly normal children, husbands and families. Who are you to judge Ice about her posts here. You have no idea what her and her DP are talking about outside of this thread. She came here for advice on a two year old and what they like and what might make Tess comfortable. Just because she didn't post asking for the name of a child psychologist dose not mean she is oblivious to the fact that Tess came with more needs than that of a cute bedroom.
 
I just wanted to add that many people are talking about therapy. Therapy for a 2 year old always is about the primary caregiver, not so much the 2 year old as a patient. The primary caregiver's are the one that can make the changes necessary and provide an healthy enviroment. Sure therapy when the child is older might be helpful, but really any help now would be as a family unit. Since Ice and DP are not a traditional family unit and this whole process is not as formal as most foster care and adoption processes, I can see them being leery about getting professional help and outsiders getting involved. Also it is rather common for black families have keep issues like this "in the family". Everyone just wants the best possible situation for a girl who has had less then idea situations in the past.


So far so good with Lily, she has been keeping things down all day.
 
Jill- I still haven't caught up on my laundry! I think that's part of my NY resolution this year.:rolleyes: :laundy:

DisneyPHD- I'm glad Lilly is keeping everything down!

I just left the office (early today since I have Olivia with me and it's a SLOW week). Would you believe there are tons and tons of cars headed to the mall now? I can't believe I was thinking about going there this week!
I may have to brave it Sunday if Target really marks down the holiday stuff to 75% off.

The disney vacation set us over the top in cruise rewards, so now we have $1000 in gift certificates :love: Now I just have to figure out WHICH NCL cruise we're going to take. I'm leaning towards doing something out of NY so that I can save my airline credit for WDW and/or a last minute Disney cruise in the fall.
 
Hi Guys! Been reading up on the "drama" but haven't responded. I guess this just makes me want to thank everyone here again for being so awesome and here is my testimony...

The "New Moms" group is a place for ALL moms to vent, share happiness, vent, share precious kids and their funny stories, vent, get advice on day-to-day issues, and yes, vent some more if needed!! I LOVE IT HERE! When I'm having a bad mommy or wife moment I can share it here and get support and ten minutes later when I'm having a good moment I can share that too. Life is a roller coaster and this is a place to share that and get support because many of our "real life" friends/family like to act as if they don't have any of these problems and the Dis mommies are quick to admit they do!! Best of all, in the four months I have been here I have NEVER seen anyone reply in a rude way to ANYTHING until today. I think that is what upset some ladies much more than advice given...that's what upset me, anyway. SO, thanks to all my DIS Mom Friends - you rock!

Ok, Carson is jumping off my lap as I type - gotta go -I'll be back later!
 

Hillbeans - thank you for pointing out that I am a good friend. :hug:

I am not sure how the other regular posters on this thread felt about what was said about Diskims' advice to Icebrat - but I felt it was uncalled for. I consider diskim a friend - so I asked this new poster to please keep her nasty comments and opinions to herself. Had she come here and been nice it would have been a different story. Perception is everything and I am sure everybody here perceives my response to the "new poster" differently. If the new poster had come her on her own accord and posted about her own life, my reaction (as I hope you all know) would have been very different. But she came here and posted in an abrasive manner and sorry, I didn't like it. I would hope that someone would have stood up for me if I was the one being insulted. As for me putting this person on Ignore, you are darn right! I am going through enough BS in my life right now and I come to this thread for laughs, encouragement, advice and friendship from the regular posters on this board. I don't want to come here and debate about parenting. So for those moms who don't agree with my defending this thread and my friends, sorry! And to those who have posted on the thread today who have not been here before and are hijacking it - I hope this makes you very happy!
 
Zalansky - I took your comment in the way you just explained it. I got the same feeling and agreed with your comment when I read it. It's one thing to post your opinion or thoughts on something, but then to tell others that they're wrong and giving bad advice when it's their opinion is another.

Both kids are napping so I really need to use the time to get some work done around here as I still have a long way to go before my house is presentable to others, but I forgot to share Henry's big news from our trip. Not only was he much happier in general on our vacation than he was in November, but he rolled from his back to his tummy for the first time! :banana: This was huge for him as he's been working on this forever since he's always on his back. That also puts me at 2 for 2 with kids learning to roll over in WDW! :thumbsup2

Oh, and Christmas gifts, mine was an extra 2 days in WDW. We were supposed to come back on the 23rd but came back on the 25th. Not so much as my gift (cause that was not the intention at all) but cause it was so much cheaper for the 2 tickets we paid for to return on the 25th. Madison and I used miles and my husband and Henry paid (though Henry's was 1/2 price). Apparently no one wanted to fly on Christmas and it was cheaper to add 2 nights at the hotel than pay for the earlier flight, or about the same price anyway. Thing is that my husband kinda did it as a surprise, or so he claims as I think he just forgot to tell me and forgot to get me a gift. ;)
 
:goodvibes One last thing, thank you everyone for the well wishes for Connor's birthday! :goodvibes
 
Justthat, it sounds like you guys had a great trip. Just reading about it is getting me very excited for ours. Lily is so animated and funny this year, I think she is going to be a blast in WDW, (not that she was ever not before.)

I was very inspired by Alice's trip to WDW with out kids that last month when we found airfare to orlando for only $45 each way Dh and I booked a 3 night 4 day trip for just the 2 of us in early March (for DH's spring break.) I am both really excited about it and concerned. It will be the 1st time we have taken a trip with out the kids. I don't really feel bad about them not going, becuase they will have just been in Jan, and will go again in May (DCL for the 1st time.) Besides I really don't think we should take Anna out of school for 3 trips in one school year. ;)
 
At risk of stringing this drama out any longer....

1. I learn more and more about this whole situation as the day goes on and I am not happy about it. There was a few new posters on this thread over the last few months and all were welcomed warmly. We had trouble with a couple of them after a short time due to lies and the like. But, it all passed and straightened itself out. I have a sinking feeling that we are in for another round of that.

2. Loretta, I knew exactly what you meant by your comment. I agree with you and I also feel that we just don't need the grief that was about to take over our thread. I think we've all been stung in the past and it is hard not to think about that when someone new comes along and then one of our long time posters is caught in the middle.


3. We all have the right to post whatever we want to. Simple as that. If you don't lik it, oh well. It's just an internet chat board.


I think this drama is going nowhere and needs to stop.
 
I greatly appreciated the fact that Zalansky stood up for me and I consider her a true friend. Although I did not officially welcome the new poster, I had meant to. I was busy and posting quickly. I had no intention of offending her in any way. Frankly, I hadn't even read most of her original post (lack of time). If you look at her post, she basically attacked me for trying to help someone. What I posted wasn't even necessarily my opinion. I was just trying to make icebrat feel better. Maybe that was wrong, but I come here to support my friends. They can get lectured by the other people in their lives. The new poster was very rude to me and attacked me personally which was totally uncalled for in the situation. I would have defended anyone who was attacked on this thread too. As I have stated before, I rarely post on other threads for 2 reasons - 1.) I don't have time and more importantly 2.) I have enough of my own problems and don't need confrontation on the internet which can easily be avoided. Now, I think we all have enough in our lives to deal with and we should go back to doing the things that dizagain pointed out so well (especially the part about venting - lol) and make this a comfortable place again for the regulars as well as the new and old (HI KATERKAT!!) posters who came here for support, laughs, or whatever today.
 
And she was promptly put on public IGNORE by a poster who didn't agree with her. Also, she was treated in a very unwarm way. All for giving her very informative opinion:sad2:

So, much for using your own name.

And now, I will unsubscribe.

For those who PM'd me, I cannot PM you back, as I am "new". They will not allow me to send PM's, only receive them.

But, thank you for your support.
I hate to beat this into the ground, but here goes. No, she wasn't put on ignore or given an unwarm welcome because of her opinion. It's not necessarily WHAT she said, but HOW she said it. I once got called out for responding to a thread about something that interests me a great deal and others didn't read my responses the way I thought I was conveying them. It helped me NOT post the way I speak because tone, gestures, facial expressions, etc. can't be transmitted over a message board. In short, if she had given a warm introduction, she would have gotten a warm welcome.
 
Hi everyone!

I haven't commented on what is going on b/c frankly I'm exhausted and lost b/c I haven't read all of the posts. I just want to say that I love this thread and consider you all my friends. I thought of you all a lot on this trip and am excited on meeting you guys in 2008! :woohoo:


Z and DisKim - :grouphug: You guys are great. :goodvibes

FF & SL - Well said!

Justhat - Congrats on Henry rolling over! I meant to tell you that your kids are so adorable! It was great seeing them in person! John was trying to crawl on this trip so WDW must be great for babies!!! Unfortunately, John crawled right off the bed and fell which made me upset b/c my dh and the kids were supposed to be watching him while I was changing clothes. Thankfully, he was ok.

Also, this trip was my present too! :love: Anyway, it was great seeing you and your family in person!

Dizagain - How is the house selling going? BTW, it has been great getting to know you too these past few months. I feel as if we have a lot in common since we both have older daughters and a baby son.

Ginamarie - My laundry pile is sick I tell you! :laughing: It is going to take me years to finish it!

DisneyPhd - Glad to hear that Lily is on the mend!


Well, my parents are coming over for dinner (like we haven't seen them enough the past 10 days! ;) ) I invited them over so we can tie up some loose ends from the trip. Hopefully, I can post some pictures later!

I'm already having Disney withdrawals and my next trip won't be until 2008. :guilty: Oh well, I've been a lot in the past few years so I shouldn't complain. ;)

Everyone have a great evening!
 
Jill - It was great to see you guys too! And your mom looks great, btw, so if you've got her genes you won't have to worry about not aging gracefully. We should meet up sometime here so we can get everyone together!

Congrats to John on starting to crawl too!! Isn't it amazing how even with 3 people watching him he can still manage to get into trouble!?

My husband and I said when you left how relieved we were that both kids were sleeping cause I swear Madison was an absolute terror that morning. We got back from the party around 11pm the night before and though Henry slept the whole time Madison was up till we were back in the room, and then my husband intelligently booked Chef Mickey's for 7:20am the day we saw you. She woke up in total meltdown mode. We were almost an hour late to CM because we were embarassed to take her out of the room the way she was acting. She was making some sort of snarling noise, screaming, crying, and undressing herself till we finally strapped her into the stroller so she at least had to stay dressed. And we had a nasty CM at CM's which made my morning even better. I started off apologizing for being so late and told her I understood if they couldn't take us (though there were about 50 empty tables for the first time ever) and she just glared and said since we were late we had to wait 45 minutes. I said that was fine but then she proceeded to take literally every person waiting and new arrivals, even walk ups, ahead of us just to punish us for being late. We should have skipped the meal but we had already told Madison about it and knew she'd remember it later on and then be very unhappy about not missing it.

Anyway, at least they were quiet when you saw them! Our next WDW trip will be the 2008 moms trip too, but before our cruise in February we're doing a pirate and princess party so I'm hoping that will hold me over. We're hoping to go to DL with my mom on a convention in 11/07 but it may not work out with Joey's vacation dates.


If anyone has any ideas on how to get the shift and crtl keys back onto my keyboard, I'm open to suggestions! the letters just snap into place, but the other 2 have some sort of metal hinge piece.
 
Woo Hoo! DH took Carson Cranky Pants upstairs for a bit....he's been home today and has been a computer hog so I might get to type a proper post this time!

Zalansky - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CONNOR!!!!:bday: How were the Cinnabon rolls? We are stuck on the mini ones but I always look at those and wonder what they're like!

Diskim - love the pictures! How's Super Puppy doing today? I laughed at your Christmas gifts shot - looked like my house for sure! I figured out that we usually have Christmas celebrations with the grandparents/aunts and uncles at some point but this year we didn't see anyone so ALL of those presents were also under our tree!

Z and Diskim - :grouphug: no more drama!

justhat - So glad you had a great trip! Yay for Henry rolling over! Yikes about Madison and the keyboard - are the keys fitting back on?

justhat and disneyphd - thanks for the advice about Carson's sleeping...I also agree that since we're moving in the next two months and he'll have his own room with a new crib that there's no point in worrying about it now. Unfortunately DH has such awful memories of Hannah that he's flipping out that we're starting all over again doing the same thing. I'm trying to let him cry for just a bit and then pick him up and love on him and try to get him to sleep...last night it took an hour and a half of him falling asleep/waking up but he finally slept in his bed until 6 a.m. Just the not-so-fun part of parenthood!!

jill - glad you were all healthy on your trip - sounds like you had a great time! Glad the crowds weren't too bothersome - I'm hoping I'll feel the same way at Thanksgiving '08. Glad to know you too - it's fun sharing about the older kiddos as well as the babies!!!

bengalbelle - :yay: HELLO!! Good to see you again - Caroline is so adorable! It's so hard to believe she and Carson are so big already!!

FF - sorry about your poor tooth! DH just went through that at Thanksgiving - waiting for the dentist to get back in the office from time off. You are right - even though dental insurance is NOT good enough imo, thank goodness for what there is....it's amazing what they charge!!

SL - hope your $$ got straightened out at work! I swear I smile every time I see Lucas on your siggie - too cute! (As are all the DIS Moms babies, of course!)

Ginamarie - How's Olivia sleeping? Any better now that she's been home awhile? I'm sure Christmas chaos hasn't helped - it sure hasn't around here!

Tykes - YAY on the ipod working!!

Val - 20 Questions is FRIGHTENING and addictive! It freaks me out!

Tasha n Scott - cute pics! I LOVE that Christmas chaos!

nucpharm - HI! Hope you're having fun! I'll be heading straight down I-55 next week - are you close to it? I'll wave if you are! I'll be the crazy woman in the white suv hanging out the window screaming after driving alone with the three kids all day!!!

glt - thinking about you!

fabumouse - thinking about you too and wondering how the fish bits were as well as the girls' Christmas!

I absolutely know I'm not responding to everyone, but at least I made a dent! Hello to all the moms!! I need to go read Hayley's story she is writing to enter in an AG magazine contest. :)
 
jill,

I must have missed your post that said John started to crawl. Congratulations! That's always so exciting.:thumbsup2 :banana:
 
Z~ I meant to say Happy b-day to Connor! :)

Z and DisKim~ I hope you didn't take any of my comments the wrong way. I understood what both of you were saying. I also understood the other posters. I should have just stayed out of it and that is why I apologized to Ilove2lurk. I hope I didn't offend either of you. I love this thread too and want it to remain peaceful.

vald~ I meant to say I love that 20 questions game. I played it online and it is addictive!

Well, I just got back from shopping and I am irritated. Kylie had some Christmas money and I let her pick out a few things and she chose to get a princess bowl, dish, fork, and spoon set as one of her things. The girl that bagged it put a big case of refill wipes on top of it and broke the bowl. So now I have to go exchange it. This is why I prefer self-checkout lanes. Unfortunately, this store doesn't have those yet. Well, dh is home and I think we are going to go exchange it now so I won't have to worry about it later...or so I won't forget! Have a great night everyone!
 
Jill - Congrats on John crawling! I'm glad you had a great time in Disney!

diz - Super puppy is doing well. He actually went to the door to go out. Of course, he peed by the door before we could get his leash but it was still a step in the right direction. Emily has been awesome! I haven't cleaned up after the dog at all. Actually, I went to help her today and she refused my help. I think she is showing me she can do this on her own. He starts puppy training tomorrow. He's going with his 2 brothers.

I posted the picture of my tree on purpose. I need support from you ladies to help me stop spending!! That was actually the smallest Christmas we've had so far! DH even agreed that I didn't buy as much. I guess it's because my mom wasn't big on holidays when I was a kid and I longed for those big family holidays so I go a little insane. I need to stay out of stores for a really long time! I have to return a few things tomorrow and I told DH not to let me buy anything else!

I forgot who asked (I think it was Val) but the dog's name is Irish. Emily named him after some horse she saw on a show on Animal Planet. I wanted to name him Scout but she said a Scout had to be a girl. Oh well, it's better than my friend's DD who wanted a dog for Christmas and wanted to name him Pepperoni (she pronounces it peppadoni).

bengalbelle - Welcome!! Your kids are so adorable!!

Sorry...gotta go...screaming Aidan...
 
Z- Happy Bday to Connor!!!!!!! :bday: party: Loretta- You know I love ya!

Jill- Yay to John for crawling!! :dance3: I can't wait to see some WDW pics.

Kim- Wow- that was quite the Christmas spread! Hey, all I will say is that you give your kids MORE than enough in the love and attention you poor on them daily as a mother. That is the best gift; don't feel like you need to overcompensate from your childhood- you are giving them everything they will ever need in life just by being you. :)

Hi KaterKat! Long time, no see! :wave2:

Here's my attempt to instill some dry wit---

I had a FABULOUS time at the Gymboree outlet today! :rotfl:

I got Molly a really cute knit dress in that turtle pattern from last Jan or Feb- it's navy blue cotton with the green turtles, long sleeved. And I got her matching hair curlies and it was *fun*. :cool2: I would have liked to looked longer, but my boys were being turkeys.

My ebay sellings are already up to $52 with tons and tons of watchers. I'm hoping to reach my higher goal of $200 maybe.

Tamie- I'm glad you got the shuffle working- I will have to note that in case Sam ever gets his wet.

PhD- good for you for planning a kidless trip to WDW. It's lots o' fun! Wow $45 each way to Orlando- what a steal. I can just picture the monorail in the airport- that's so exciting to board when you first get there and you know the trip is really starting!

I dunno much else except that the tree is going down today. I just brought up the ornament boxes from the basement and will start de-ornamenting it. I'm ready for my house to be back to (semi) normal. I need to go buy some more sturdy storage boxes (I have lots of cardboard for Christmas) if we're going to be taking everything out of the basement in a few months or so to remodel. Ey yi yi...I figure if I start organizing now, it won't be too stressful then. right?????

FF- I will keep my eye out for the that VS...
 
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