The MAGIC is Back!!! ~ WBTA 2014 ~ Come & join the fun!

[SapphireMind]

Indeed it isn't ... but then neither is raking it all up all the time. We have all tried on countless occasions to reconcile differences, wipe the slate clean, move on etc, but it has proved difficult if not impossible.

It's definitely difficult, I totally agree with you there. I don't agree it is impossible. I think it is going to be very challenging and it will require dedication from everyone involved and it's very hard to do. But I have faith that the people are capable of doing it. I'm a humanist and believe in the potential of people and their ability to positively impact the world.

I don't think anyone intentionally tries to rake things up. What seems to happen is that there is a misunderstanding, and then people bring old stuff forward to justify their position, positive or negative.

We can acknowledge the conflicts have happened, but try not to use them as justification for poor treatment of another person, again, to repeat, I am not saying that people intentionally went out with the goal of hurting people's feelings, that's up to them to decide, and even if they did, everyone does it sometimes, we can just try and do better in the future.

 

[melonz]

Wow. As an adult reading this, someone who has enjoyed the friendships growing on EACH facebook page, AND the Dis, I take complete and udder offense to this statement.

While I have NOT in the least bit been argumentative on either of these forums, I have recently posted my 'opinion' about the post from the other day.

Annie, while I do not know you, and will not presume to think your post was not rude, I will say this. Have you ever begun to think, that it is because of some on the ORIGINAL facebook group, that there has been another group formed. Have you stopped to think, that hey, maybe I'm one of the opinionated ones?

I have joined both groups, as I enjoy the commentary, advice and planning from people in all groups. BUT, for you to say that the 'more opinionated' people have left.....and brush everyone with one stroke, is irritatingly wrong.

Do YOU know why there was a new facebook page created?

Again, I will say. I have enjoyed BOTH groups. I am thoroughly enjoying getting to know everyone I am going to be cruising with. BUT, I am tired of the ranting and the negative responses people get for giving an opinion.

As well, why should there be 2 DIS groups for this cruise? Why split? Because it takes the people that you seem to conflict with, out of your picture? I think it's a waste, and a shame, to split the group.

And if you think that this post is backhandedly rude, then, 'hey ho', not my problem.

Well it didn't take you long to get here did it Jenn! You love all the drama and it gets boring reading your posts so i'll refrain from now on......HEY HO

 

[MedicGoofy]

You see this is what causes so much hurt, being TOLD what we need to do, that just isn't fair hon.

You take this as being told what to do?? I see it as a suggestion on how to get along with everyone. See how different opinions work?

If I said, you have to tie your laces so your shoes don't fall off? Am I telling YOU what to do, or making a general statement on what should be done so your shoes don't fall off?

Same thing applies here. IF people want to get along, you need to just let things go, swallow whatever emotion you may feel, and just get on with it.

It's not telling YOU what to do. It's a generalized statement. It's in the manor of how YOU receive the statement.

 

[TotallyAngelic]

Do YOU know why there was a new facebook page created?

I know that its creation certainly solved a lot of the conflict. And that it appeared to work to make the cruise FB experience better for all involved. Therefore it is reasonable to suggest it may work for the DIS experience.

 

[MedicGoofy]

I know that its creation certainly solved a lot of the conflict. And that it appeared to work to make the cruise FB experience better for all involved. Therefore it is reasonable to suggest it may work for the DIS experience.

I do agree with you 100%, that it has solved a lot of the conflict. I think the hard part, or hurtful part, is the accusation that those who are now in the 'other' group are the ones that have created the conflict. It's not accurate, and hurtful. Seeing as I am one of them.

It would be a shame though, for those of us who do enjoy both the groups, to then have to be (or consequently are) divided into 2 DIS groups. I realize the suggested want for it, but I just feel it is nicer to have at least 1 forum where everyone is together. But I don't want to loose the connections that are starting to be formed.

 

[squitty]

Come & join the fun!

This is certainly not fun!!!

 

[TotallyAngelic]

It's definitely difficult, I totally agree with you there. I don't agree it is impossible. I think it is going to be very challenging and it will require dedication from everyone involved and it's very hard to do. But I have faith that the people are capable of doing it. I'm a humanist and believe in the potential of people and their ability to positively impact the world.

I don't think anyone intentionally tries to rake things up. What seems to happen is that there is a misunderstanding, and then people bring old stuff forward to justify their position, positive or negative.

We can acknowledge the conflicts have happened, but try not to use them as justification for poor treatment of another person, again, to repeat, I am not saying that people intentionally went out with the goal of hurting people's feelings, that's up to them to decide, and even if they did, everyone does it sometimes, we can just try and do better in the future.

I understand your point ... and really hope your ideals can be realised, but I am afraid I am just a bit more cynical with my view of human nature. Maybe my cup is half empty and yours is half full, but right now I am disillusioned with all of the conflict on here and could really do with borrowing your rose-tinted spectacles. Now this is no way a criticism of the way you see things, in fact I wish I see things as positively as you seem to. I am aware that this post is negative, and I must make more effort to move away from making negative posts, but in the past I have tried so many times to lighten the mood on here and once again things kick off again. So I guess I have good reason to be disillusioned.

 

[vakamalua]

OMG, I am so sad.

My first experience with DIS was the 2010 WBTA--wonderful people, great conversation and fun organized activities, even a few forever friends.

Something has changed on the DIS since then. On my most recent cruise meet thread, I was horribly and personally flamed on the thread and in PMs because some folks didn't like the way I was organizing something. Their lack of civility shocked me. And, interestingly, at the one DIS-organized event we attended (Mixology), no one spoke to each other or even acknowledged we were all there as a group.

I hadn't checked this thread in months but was looking forward to catching up with old and new friends. Instead, I find dissension, personal innuendo, rival factions. I'm sad that I'm no longer comfortable posting and wary about signing up for events or meeting people. I miss the former lightheartedness, fun and civility.

 

[TotallyAngelic]

It would be a shame though, for those of us who do enjoy both the groups, to then have to be (or consequently are) divided into 2 DIS groups. I realize the suggested want for it, but I just feel it is nicer to have at least 1 forum where everyone is together. But I don't want to loose the connections that are starting to be formed.

It would be a lot nicer to have just the one group forum Jenn, but it is clearly not working and having one thread with the animosity constantly rearing its ugly head all the time is not a nice place to be. Having been on many DIS cruise threads this is the first time anything like this has ever happened, so it is difficult to know what is the best thing to do.

 

[SapphireMind]

It would be awesome if we could all do some sort of google or skype or whatever video chat. Seeing the face of another person does help a lot in improving how we treat them, subconsciously.

And oddly, it would probably also help if we all wore the same color shirt *LOL* (I have a friend who is an experimental social psychologist and he's done some work with that.)

 

[TotallyAngelic]

OMG, I am so sad.

My first experience with DIS was the 2010 WBTA--wonderful people, great conversation and fun organized activities, even a few forever friends.

Something has changed on the DIS since then. On my most recent cruise meet thread, I was horribly and personally flamed on the thread and in PMs because some folks didn't like the way I was organizing something. Their lack of civility shocked me. And, interestingly, at the one DIS-organized event we attended (Mixology), no one spoke to each other or even acknowledged we were all there as a group.

I hadn't checked this thread in months but was looking forward to catching up with old and new friends. Instead, I find dissension, personal innuendo, rival factions. I'm sad that I'm no longer comfortable posting and wary about signing up for events or meeting people. I miss the former lightheartedness, fun and civility.

It is indeed very sad Andrea. Hopefully things will start to improve ... we can but try.

 

[MedicGoofy]

It would be a lot nicer to have just the one group forum Jenn, but it is clearly not working and having one thread with the animosity constantly rearing its ugly head all the time is not a nice place to be. Having been on many DIS cruise threads this is the first time anything like this has ever happened, so it is difficult to know what is the best thing to do.

I know. It isn't working. It would just be so nice if it did


And in regards to your last post....I understand your 'negative' outlook. I don't see it as being negative, or having your glass half empty. I sometimes look at it as being truly realistic. Just....wishing you didn't have to be 'realistic' about a cruise group that should be so happy to be sailing together to see Mickey....here's a hug

 

[MedicGoofy]

And oddly, it would probably also help if we all wore the same color shirt *LOL* (I have a friend who is an experimental social psychologist and he's done some work with that.)

Smiley faced Mickey shirts????

 

[NWmom]

I wanted it to be a wake up call to where the group has gone.

I am ready for a fresh start.

I do think the person has a delightful sense of humor that I find funny as well as many good traits. I miss seeing that part of them more often.

 

[RobDoc]

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Private Messages are exactly that - PRIVATE. Unless you have permission from the person who sent you a PM, posting it on the boards is considered at attack on that poster.

Thanks in advance for your future cooperation.

 

[TotallyAngelic]

Private Messages are exactly that - PRIVATE. Unless you have permission from the person who sent you a PM, posting it on the boards is considered at attack on that poster.

Thanks in advance for your future cooperation.

I rest my case.

 

[JustAnnieNotHazel]

Private Messages are exactly that - PRIVATE. Unless you have permission from the person who sent you a PM, posting it on the boards is considered at attack on that poster.

Thanks in advance for your future cooperation.

Thank you for clarifying this point!

 

[hazelandannie]

OMG, I am so sad.

My first experience with DIS was the 2010 WBTA--wonderful people, great conversation and fun organized activities, even a few forever friends.

Something has changed on the DIS since then. On my most recent cruise meet thread, I was horribly and personally flamed on the thread and in PMs because some folks didn't like the way I was organizing something. Their lack of civility shocked me. And, interestingly, at the one DIS-organized event we attended (Mixology), no one spoke to each other or even acknowledged we were all there as a group.

I hadn't checked this thread in months but was looking forward to catching up with old and new friends. Instead, I find dissension, personal innuendo, rival factions. I'm sad that I'm no longer comfortable posting and wary about signing up for events or meeting people. I miss the former lightheartedness, fun and civility.

Don't be sad, here catch a hug x x x

 

[jilljill]

Any and all posts that have referenced deleted posts have been removed.

In the future if you have a problem with a poster please report the post or PM and let the moderators/admins handle things.
Here's the link to the DISboard Guidelines in case anyone would like to read over them once again: http://www.wdwinfo.com/guidelines.htm

Thanking everyone in advance for your continued cooperation.

 

[thedonduck]

Alright peeps... I have been trying to stay away from all the unnecessary drama simply because I deal with enough of it in my "real life". So as in one of my favorite episodes of Gilmore Girls (yup, don't laugh at me )

Let's start over...

3......2........1
I like shrimp....do you like shrimp???