THE LIBERAL THREAD #3- No Debate Please

[dcentity2000]

The BBC North America editor, Justin Webb, had this to say about the Republican Conference:

I have to say, from my vantage point next to the DC delegation, my overall impression was that the audience in the hall were disappointed. The whisper uttered by a strong man can work in a big hall but he seemed rather engulfed and hemmed in. He was never in control.

Now this is interesting, as being a British National, he had nothing to lose or gain by expressing an opinion. Neither Obama nor McCain are his candidates - Cameron, Brown and Clegg are. He has no cause to be biased.

From the comments:

He's been upstaged, overshadowed, pit-bulled and lip-sticked by his running-mate. You have to feel a wee bit sorry for him.

I have to say the speech was average. It was at it's worst when the protesters were shouted down by the "USA" chant, which gets old even for an American. The periodic interruptions that followed slowed up the speech and made it difficult to follow McCain, and his inability to read a teleprompter proved as annoying as ever.

What strikes me going out of this convention is that John McCain failed to articulate, either through himself or through his surrogates, a cogent agenda.

In total there are 367 opinions expressed on the BBC website and a fair share were pro-McCain. You can read them, as well as a tonne of anti-McCain comments, here: clicky!



Rich::

 

[dcentity2000]

Europe rallies firmly behind Obama; huge majority for the Democratic candidate over the failing Republican candidate.

Read all about it:

http://www.spiritus-sanctus.net/viewtopic.php?pid=193

EDIT - made into own thread - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=27403358



Rich::

 

[JARNJ3]

Saw these jokes on a blog - thought they were amusing:

http://politicalirony.com/2008/09/07/late-night-political-humor-5/

Late Night Political Humor

“One of the big themes for convention speakers was that we need to elect a Republican that will go in and clean up the mess in Washington. I think that’s a great lesson for kids — always clean up your own mess.” -Jimmy Kimmel

“John McCain had his big acceptance speech. And, you know, I didn’t – I didn’t watch that because I’ll tell you why: if I want to see an old guy, if I want to see an old guy struggle with a teleprompter, you know, hell, I’ll watch Regis.” -David Letterman

“They say Palin’s speech was written by George Bush’s speechwriter, which was great for that guy because he finally got a chance to use some big words.” -Jay Leno

“Palin made some interesting points last night. She said when she was Governor of Alaska she got rid of the state’s luxury jet and put it on eBay. … Ironically, do you know who bought it? John and Cindy McCain.” -Jay Leno

“Palin said last night that John McCain had seen evil, but I didn’t even know Dick Cheney was at the convention.” -Jay Leno

“Have you heard about this ‘Troopergate’ scandal? Palin allegedly … used her power as governor to pressure officials to fire her former brother-in-law from his state trooper job. Now, maybe I’m wrong, but wasn’t that an episode of ‘Dukes of Hazzard?’” –Jay Leno

“But, I mean, how about this, and she, you know, at one times was mayor of a very small town, a very small town in Alaska. Anybody here ever been to Alaska? Name of the town was Wasilla. Anybody ever been to Wasilla, Alaska? Anyway, Wasilla, Alaska – very small town. The town is so small, they had no professional hookers – no, no, just volunteers.” –David Letterman

“While she was addressing the crowd, Sarah Palin spent a lot of time criticizing Barack Obama’s campaign speeches for not having enough specifics. … Obama was reportedly angry about the claim, but didn’t say exactly why.” -Conan O’Brien

“She said at her church, Governor Palin, said she asked everyone to pray for a natural gas pipeline, which she said was God’s will. And today, God said, “Hey lady, I don’t deal with oil companies. That’s more Satan’s area.’” -Jay Leno

“Today, the Mayor of Detroit agreed to plead guilty to obstruction of justice charges. … Yeah, as punishment, he will be required to serve out his full term as Mayor of Detroit.” -Conan O’Brien

 

[dcentity2000]

Saw these jokes on a blog - thought they were amusing:

*SNIP*

http://politicalirony.com/2008/09/07/late-night-political-humor-5/

Love 'em!



Rich::

 

[dcentity2000]

Bump

Well, the latest polls are in and it appears that the Republican's convention "halo" effect plus the shock tactic in choosing Mrs. Palin are just about dead.

Since the Republican convention caused bump for McCain in the polls, Obama has been increasingly breathing down his throat at a rate of pretty much a point a day.

Gallup today leaves the difference at 1%:

McCain - 47%
Obama - 46%

At this rate Obama and McCain will tie tomorrow and Obama will lead on Thursday.



Rich::

 

[Laura]

At this rate Obama and McCain will tie tomorrow and Obama will lead on Thursday.

Let's hope!

 

[dcentity2000]

Let's hope!

We have it!

Obama now has a two point lead, a three point swing in his favour overnight!

McCain - 45%
Obama - 47%

Note that a two point lead is not statistically significant - the goal is 5%.

Let's hope the trend continues



Rich::

 

[Laura]

That's progress!

 

[dcentity2000]

We need change that only Obama can deliver.

According to the Gallup, "only 26% of Americans are satisfied with the way the nation is being governed."



Rich::

 

[Laura]

Check out these polls!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Still work to do, but it's looking better.

 

[crcormier]

Check out these polls!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Still work to do, but it's looking better.

The lipstick is wearing off...

 

[Laura]

The lipstick is wearing off...

I believe I read that now she's the most unfavorable of the four candidates.

 

[dcentity2000]

Poll update

Obama's lead over McCain has doubled to 4%, a statistically significant separation:

McCain - 44%
Obama - 48%



Rich::

 

[Amirah95]

We have it!

Obama now has a two point lead, a three point swing in his favour overnight!

McCain - 45%
Obama - 47%

Note that a two point lead is not statistically significant - the goal is 5%.

Let's hope the trend continues



Rich::

 

[Amirah95]

The lipstick is wearing off...

 

[dcentity2000]

Poll update!

The trend continues as Obama gains another point over McCain, amounting to 5% which is statistically significant. McCain has been bleeding points consistently since the close of the Republican convention.

McCain - 44%
Obama - 49%

Here's hoping that Obama gets to the 50% mark tomorrow, at which point half of the country could be said to support him, something that McCain does not have.



Rich::

 

[dcentity2000]

Poll Update!

Well, Obama's surge continues. He now commands a 6 point lead over McCain, which is a statistically significant difference.

Obama has also cracked the 50% mark, meaning (in theory) that half the country would vote for Obama - more than for McCain.

McCain - 44%
Obama - 50%



Rich::

 

[dcentity2000]

Palin would support war with Russia!

VICE-PRESIDENTIAL hopeful Sarah Palin has warned she will support war on Russia if it attacks Georgia again.

Clicky.



Rich::

 

[crcormier]

That woman is frightening. And what's more frightening is I think most of the conservatives would rather see her ON TOP of the ticket.

 

[MassJester]

I think the only good thing about this week so far is that the chorus of numbskulls that had been spouting off slogans like, "the economy is on sound footing," "the free market is best left free of government interference," and "we need to privatize social security" have finally shut up. Perhaps they are finally aghast at the scope of their own stupidity.

I've also noticed a distinct lask of any branding of Mr. Bush or Mr. Paulson as socialists for their spearheading of government involvement in the financial sector. Apparently socialist behavior from Republicans is to be overlooked--no matter how glarringly inconvenient.