THE LIBERAL THREAD #3- No Debate Please

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2 - I've been trying to do so for months now, only to be greeted with articles about former pastors, flag pins, and Rezco (again, go back to the beginning of this thread and the end of the former Liberal thread) without once bringing up "Whitewater", Vince Foster, or any of the other crap that's been thrown at Hillary over the years (though I will admit to making a joke on the Obama thread about her travelling from event to event under sniper fire). SOME of us have tried talking about the issues, without much luck.

wvrevy, you (and Obama) are kidding yourselves if you think that things like flag pins, former pasters Rezco, Vince Foster, and even Whitewater aren't issues. They aren't the issues that are important to you. But they are to a huge group of voters.

If you don't believe it, just sit back and watch. If Obama doesn't get the nom it will be because of those "non-issues" Because the totallity of all those "non issues" and Obama inability to address them to the satisfaction of the masses makes them question his character, his motives and his trustworthiness.

In a perfect political race, the only thing that people would talk/care about would be Health Plans, enviromental issues, and the war in Iraq. But that's not how it really is, and wishing and cursing the masses doesn't change that.

The only resort for a politician is to face it head on, grow a thick skin and learn to deal. It's the only way to get through those "issues" and move get to the really important stuff.

To me, that is the single biggest failing of Obama's campaign. His inablity to grasp what a problem these "non-issues" really are and address them in a way that answers people's doubts. I know he did that for you. But you (and the rest of the OS) aren't the problem are they? It's the people that he needs to become his supporters. In many ways, I think Obama has run a campaign of singing to the choir. When what he needed to be doing is reaching the beyond the people that were already voting for him and address the needs of the rest of the voters.
 
I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!

(miss me?)
 
I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!

(miss me?)

Dude, people are dropping like flies around here. It's hard to keep up with who's coming and going..... mostly going lately.

It's always nice to Cary's face though. ;)
 

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Now there's a post on the Hillary thread saying that Wright is like "a noose around his (Obama's) neck". :sad2: And it's not like it was an "accident"...the original post said Wright would be a "thorn in Obama's side"...which is certainly a legitimate, if arguable point...but at least it's not offensive. But that wasn't enough, apparently, for some posters (who are now being applauded). No...it had to be "a noose around his neck."

What's that phrase I used to see..."You can't make this stuff up"?

Like I said...when you guys decide to rid yourself of that kind of thing, I'm sure there will be plenty of people that will gladly discuss issues with you. Until then...
 
Now there's a post on the Hillary thread saying that Wright is like "a noose around his (Obama's) neck". :sad2: And it's not like it was an "accident"...the original post said Wright would be a "thorn in Obama's side"...which is certainly a legitimate, if arguable point...but at least it's not offensive. But that wasn't enough, apparently, for some posters (who are now being applauded). No...it had to be "a noose around his neck."

What's that phrase I used to see..."You can't make this stuff up"?

Like I said...when you guys decide to rid yourself of that kind of thing, I'm sure there will be plenty of people that will gladly discuss issues with you. Until then...

I saw that too, but I would like to think that the reference was unconcious and not intentionally racist.
 
I saw that too, but I would like to think that the reference was unconcious and not intentionally racist.

I agree, I think it was just meant as "a way to kill your campaign" without any attempt at a racist undertone.
 
Unfortunately, I'm not at all convinced of that.
 
Now there's a post on the Hillary thread saying that Wright is like "a noose around his (Obama's) neck". :sad2: And it's not like it was an "accident"...the original post said Wright would be a "thorn in Obama's side"...which is certainly a legitimate, if arguable point...but at least it's not offensive. But that wasn't enough, apparently, for some posters (who are now being applauded). No...it had to be "a noose around his neck."

What's that phrase I used to see..."You can't make this stuff up"?

Like I said...when you guys decide to rid yourself of that kind of thing, I'm sure there will be plenty of people that will gladly discuss issues with you. Until then...

What's the point? You want it to be there so you will find it.

ford family
 
What's the point? You want it to be there so you will find it.

ford family

I "want" it to be there? :rolleyes: Again, I've been saying for months that this should be an honest debate about issues and who is best suited to lead this country through the problems it faces. No...I don't want to see pics of Obama in 70's pimp attire complete with huge afro...and I don't want to see people posting that some side issue is "a noose around Obama's neck". But those things are there for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but talking about putting a noose around a black man's neck isn't something that I find funny, or in any way appropriate, no matter if it is just a "figure of speech".
 
I was in WDW for the week!!

and no, I didn't bring y'all anything! Who do you think I am, the government? :rotfl2:

Oh, ha ha. Very funny. ;)

Welcome back, hope you had a great trip! :)
 
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