The Liberal Thread #2 - No Debate Please

[Fitswimmer]

A HUGE difference. Just in Va yesterday, Obama alone got way more votes than ALL the Republicans put together!

That's a pretty positive thing to hear!

 

[DISUNC]

That's a pretty positive thing to hear!

VA #'s

Obama 619,036
Clinton 345,018
Total 964,054


McCain 242,578
Huckabee 197,742
Paul 21,877
Romney 17,023 (why?????)
Total GOP Votes 479,220

What is interesting here too is that his was a rather weak turnout. Less than 1.5 million VA people voted, Maryland was rather low turnout too.

I have NO idea what that means.

 

[Laura]

A HUGE difference. Just in Va yesterday, Obama alone got way more votes than ALL the Republicans put together!

That's awesome. The Democrat turnouts in all these primaries and caucuses has been huge vs. the Republicans. I love it!

 

[DISUNC]

That's awesome. The Democrat turnouts in all these primaries and caucuses has been huge vs. the Republicans. I love it!

OH YEAH! And that has been in EVERY primary so far.

However.............dont be decieved by the numbers. It probably means most Republicans are sitting out during the Primarys. Thats all. And by many accounts so are the Democrats.

The problem with numbers here is that we dont have a full picture. We dont know how many eligable voters each party has. No one really knows these numbers.
This is because we have a big problem with our voting stats. Each state works different. Each state has many registered voters who either moved away or died. We register to vote in this country, BUT we dont UNREGISTER. Each state does delete your name after so many years (5 for some, 7 years others..etc)
In all reality people can easily vote in different states too. It is quite a mess. For instance I live & am registered in PA. However I live 4 miles away from the NJ border. If I move to NJ next week, I can register to vote there, and STILL be able to vote in PA. It is illegal, but there are no stopgaps to stop this. Nor will I ever be caught. I wouldnt do it...but it can easily be done.

However the Media is portraying the HUGE turnout, Yes it is for Primaries...but still it is estimated that less the 15% of the voting aged public is voting.

 

[NewJersey]

And he won with majorities of "Clinton voters": women, blue collar workers, and seniors. I believe he even beat her in the Latino vote in Virginia. I think it really bodes well for Obama's chances in future primaries, even in TX and OH.

Yep, I was pretty surprised at the results especially here in VA - not just because of beating her by almost 30 points, but as you said, he won her bases. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the majority of Democrats like both and now that Obama is rolling in primary after primary, they are tending towards him.

I think the Americans Abroad results should be in today and from reports I've read, it should be a big win for Obama again.

If this continues, at what point does Hillary (dare I say) drop out? I don't see her doing that to be honest.

On the Today show, Tim Russett says she not only has to win, Tx, Oh & Pa...BUT SHE has to win BIG there.

I think CNN said last night with every huge win by Obama, her percentage needed in those stages goes up and up - I think last night they had her at 57/58% needed in those states. If she can do it, its those states where she can.

 

[Fitswimmer]

OH YEAH! And that has been in EVERY primary so far.

However.............dont be decieved by the numbers. It probably means most Republicans are sitting out during the Primarys. Thats all. And by many accounts so are the Democrats.

The problem with numbers here is that we dont have a full picture. We dont know how many eligable voters each party has. No one really knows these numbers.
This is because we have a big problem with our voting stats. Each state works different. Each state has many registered voters who either moved away or died. We register to vote in this country, BUT we dont UNREGISTER. Each state does delete your name after so many years (5 for some, 7 years others..etc)
In all reality people can easily vote in different states too. It is quite a mess. For instance I live & am registered in PA. However I live 4 miles away from the NJ border. If I move to NJ next week, I can register to vote there, and STILL be able to vote in PA. It is illegal, but there are no stopgaps to stop this. Nor will I ever be caught. I wouldnt do it...but it can easily be done.

However the Media is portraying the HUGE turnout, Yes it is for Primaries...but still it is estimated that less the 15% of the voting aged public is voting.

DN was asking me about something similar to this and I honestly didn't know the answer. Since she's out in Ohio for school, she wanted to register there for November because she feels that "Ohio needs all the Democratic votes it can get-NJ is blue already.". If she's registered in NJ, can she register again in Ohio and vote in November there? I told her to contact the League of Women Voters in her area and they would probably be able to answer.

 

[NewJersey]

That's awesome. The Democrat turnouts in all these primaries and caucuses has been huge vs. the Republicans. I love it!

When you vote in VA, you state whether you want a Republican or Democrat ballot, and the lines for the Democrat yesterday were out the door, and there was hardly one for the Republicans. That could be skewed since I live in Democratic-leaning Northern VA, but it's a tell-tale sign of how this primary season has gone.

 

[NewJersey]

DN was asking me about something similar to this and I honestly didn't know the answer. Since she's out in Ohio for school, she wanted to register there for November because she feels that "Ohio needs all the Democratic votes it can get-NJ is blue already.". If she's registered in NJ, can she register again in Ohio and vote in November there? I told her to contact the League of Women Voters in her area and they would probably be able to answer.

Yeah, she can since she's a student living there. when I was in college, I know of a couple of my friends who lived in PA who re-registered to vote in NJ since they didn't want to go home to vote that day or do it by absentee.

She just has to re-register to NJ if she moves back after college.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Yeah, she can since she's a student living there. when I was in college, I know of a couple of my friends who lived in PA who re-registered to vote in NJ since they didn't want to go home to vote that day or do it by absentee.

She just has to re-register to NJ if she moves back after college.

Thanks! She'll be glad to hear that. She's got her strategy for getting Obama the win in Ohio all figured out. I'm sure she's driving her roommates insane...

 

[DISUNC]

DN was asking me about something similar to this and I honestly didn't know the answer. Since she's out in Ohio for school, she wanted to register there for November because she feels that "Ohio needs all the Democratic votes it can get-NJ is blue already.". If she's registered in NJ, can she register again in Ohio and vote in November there? I told her to contact the League of Women Voters in her area and they would probably be able to answer.

Rule of thumb is vote where you have a Drivers license! But it is all very vauge!

 

[NewJersey]

Thanks! She'll be glad to hear that. She's got her strategy for getting Obama the win in Ohio all figured out. I'm sure she's driving her roommates insane...

But isn't it a great thing when people, especially around my age, are this energized and involved in a candidate? This primary has been a great example of our democracy, not to be too corny.

If I were the Republicans, I'd be scared looking at the huge enthusiasm and turnout for the Democrats.

Going from Obama's to McCain's speech last night was striking - it was as though he was addressing another AARP meeting. And there was zero diversity in that room that I saw at least.

 

[NewJersey]

Rule of thumb is vote where you have a Drivers license! But it is all very vauge!

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/yvc/main/faqs.htm

I am a student at college in Ohio and I can't seem to meet the deadline for getting the absentee ballot mailed to me at college in Ohio. Can I just register to vote in the county where I attend college?

The county in which you are registered to vote is based on where you consider your home to be. If you consider the county where you attend college to be your home, you may register to vote in that county.

and

In Ohio, college students may claim their college address as their residence. According to the Ohio Secretary of State's web site, a student may vote from the student's school address "if the student regards that place as his/her residence and registers to vote." 7 A student's voting residence is "the residence you claim as your home . . . ." 8 However, the Secretary of State goes on to suggest that students should "consult with your parents because each consideration of home may be different for each student." 9 Those "considerations" may include income tax filing status, scholarships based on living in a particular locale, and insurance coverage, among other implications. An additional consideration is that knowingly registering in a precinct where the person is not a qualified voter is a fifth degree felony in Ohio. 10

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/ebook/part1/eligibility_rules06.html

 

[lilyv]

But isn't it a great thing when people, especially around my age, are this energized and involved in a candidate? This primary has been a great example of our democracy, not to be too corny.

If I were the Republicans, I'd be scared looking at the huge enthusiasm and turnout for the Democrats.

Going from Obama's to McCain's speech last night was striking - it was as though he was addressing another AARP meeting. And there was zero diversity in that room that I saw at least.

The enthusiasm is wonderful! Yes, the between Obama's speech and McCain's was quite noticeable. Gotta love the diverse group that Obama's vision has brought together.

Just a question-is it time for a Respectful Obama thread? I have just about had it with the tone of the "cult" thread. What do you think? Anyone interested in starting it? (I would, but I'd probably get shouted down for my strong views on the really nasty A.C. cult speculators/followers.....)

 

[LuvDuke]

Two things I thought of while watching the returns last night:

1) The super-delegates will jump on the Obama bandwagon if it comes to that.

2) Obama has ceased to be a candidate and has become a movement. Thank God, he's not Hitler.

 

[lilyv]

Two things I thought of while watching the returns last night:

1) The super-delegates will jump on the Obama bandwagon if it comes to that.

2) Obama has ceased to be a candidate and has become a movement. Thank God, he's not Hitler.

Obama isn't a niche candidate. He has broad appeal. I think that fact has been hard for the DNC to totally understand. But, the message is getting out.

 

[Fitswimmer]

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/yvc/main/faqs.htm



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http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/ebook/part1/eligibility_rules06.html

Thanks-I'm emailing her this now...

 

[Fitswimmer]

Two things I thought of while watching the returns last night:

1) The super-delegates will jump on the Obama bandwagon if it comes to that.

2) Obama has ceased to be a candidate and has become a movement. Thank God, he's not Hitler.

Shoot, Duke! It's bad enough that people are calling his followers cultists and saying he's the anti-Christ-you had to bring Hitler into it???

 

[LuvDuke]

Obama isn't a niche candidate. He has broad appeal. I think that fact has been hard for the DNC to totally understand. But, the message is getting out.

I didn't say he was a "niche candidate". I said he's become a movement and the superdelegates will jump on the bandwagon. No "I've got the experience" candidate is going to stop that movement.

This is a very exciting time. America is going to move in a new direction.

 

[LuvDuke]

Shoot, Duke! It's bad enough that people are calling his followers cultists and saying he's the anti-Christ-you had to bring Hitler into it???

Pre-emptive strike.

 

[chris1gill]

Two things I thought of while watching the returns last night:

1) The super-delegates will jump on the Obama bandwagon if it comes to that.

2) Obama has ceased to be a candidate and has become a movement. Thank God, he's not Hitler.

OK, I won't comment on number 2, but I was watching CNN & they showed either candidate winning all the remaining states by a 60-40 split & neither candidate can come up with all the delegates needed, so it will more than likely go to the Super's to decide, go figure...

OH good, Bushy is on TV right this second saying how there are terrorist's planning further worse attacks on our country, and we should be scared so now we have this new legislation to further wiretap phones without warrants. OOPS, he couldn't go more than a minute without mention 9/11.