The Liberal Thread #2 - No Debate Please

[DISUNC]

Programming note.

Michelle Obama will be on Larry King tonight. No matter who you are for, Michelle is an awesome person!

Aint that the truth!

 

[Fitswimmer]

Programming note.

Michelle Obama will be on Larry King tonight. No matter who you are for, Michelle is an awesome person!

I just wish it wasn't Larry King...he really skeeves me out.

 

[lilyv]

Programming note.

Michelle Obama will be on Larry King tonight. No matter who you are for, Michelle is an awesome person!

Thanks for the heads up! I so enjoy listening to Michelle being interviewed. The Obama's have a very down to earth relationship. I have great respect for the kind, loving way they treat one another.

 

[bimshire]

Programming note.

Michelle Obama will be on Larry King tonight. No matter who you are for, Michelle is an awesome person!

I haven't watched Larry King in awhile but tonight is a definite. Michelle is very intelligent and more inspiring than Senator Obama.

 

[LuvDuke]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/24/us/politics/24florida.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

One more time: The primary date was set by the Republican Florida state legislature and signed by the Republican governor.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269898,00.html

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/fl...ws-wrench-into-primary-season-2007-05-03.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/09/State/Dems__primary_may_not.shtml

 

[eclectics]

One more time: The primary date was set by the Republican Florida state legislature and signed by the Republican governor.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269898,00.html

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/fl...ws-wrench-into-primary-season-2007-05-03.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/09/State/Dems__primary_may_not.shtml

Believe me, there's nothing I would like more than to make the Repubs and the DNC the bad guys. Of course they are part of it........along with Florida's state Dems. They were not exactly blindsided by this and a lot were actually in favor of the date move. I think all three groups deserve a big boo.

 

[JARNJ3]

Wasn't it interesting last night on Sixty Minutes - when Hillary said that she campaigned for Barack, and she has a picture of he, Michelle and the girls in her office?

I just hope all Dems can unite in November!

 

[Charade]

I just wish it wasn't Larry King...he really skeeves me out.

Are you aware he was the voice of the woman(?) bartender in Shrek 2?

 

[eclectics]

Are you aware he was the voice of the woman(?) bartender in Shrek 2?

And 3. He said he loved playing Doris.

 

[LuvDuke]

Believe me, there's nothing I would like more than to make the Repubs and the DNC the bad guys. Of course they are part of it........along with Florida's state Dems. They were not exactly blindsided by this and a lot were actually in favor of the date move. I think all three groups deserve a big boo.

That's it. I am not going to argue the facts anymore. The facts speak for themselves. Everything else is open to speculation and interpretation.

 

[Honu]

That's it. I am not going to argue the facts anymore. The facts speak for themselves. Everything else is open to speculation and interpretation.

What facts are there to argue? Nothing illegal was done by the people that were placed in office by the Florida voters, so nothing can be done about it. I agree they (the FL legislature) probably did this on purpose, but no rules were broken.

 

[wvrevy]

What facts are there to argue? Nothing illegal was done by the people that were placed in office by the Florida voters, so nothing can be done about it. I agree they (the FL legislature) probably did this on purpose, but no rules were broken.

And according to the NY Times article, the Dems in Florida supported the decision, so it's not like they were screaming to the rafters about the unfairness of it all. They had the option of holding a later caucus or write-in primary, and chose not to do so, regardless of their reasoning.

But the point is that the candidates were told that the states would not be seated, and that's all that matters in the end. No campaigning allowed means no delegates should be seated. As for Michigan...it was a dirty trick for Hillary to leave her name on the ballot while the other two major candidates pulled theirs off. She no more "won" that state than she's won any other where a vote has yet to take place.

 

[lilyv]

And according to the NY Times article, the Dems in Florida supported the decision, so it's not like they were screaming to the rafters about the unfairness of it all. They had the option of holding a later caucus or write-in primary, and chose not to do so, regardless of their reasoning.

But the point is that the candidates were told that the states would not be seated, and that's all that matters in the end. No campaigning allowed means no delegates should be seated. As for Michigan...it was a dirty trick for Hillary to leave her name on the ballot while the other two major candidates pulled theirs off. She no more "won" that state than she's won any other where a vote has yet to take place.

Exactly. I hope she shows some good judgment and stays away from any controversy regarding Michigan or Florida.

 

[wvrevy]

Exactly. I hope she shows some good judgment and stays away from any controversy regarding Michigan or Florida.

There is an awful lot of buzz going around right now that she will do the exact opposite of that, as she's already claiming both states as "victories". For the good of the party, I would hope she wouldn't pull a stunt like that, but I'll believe it when I see it. The question becomes, would she rather win at any cost, or win fairly, or does it matter to her?

 

[eclectics]

And according to the NY Times article, the Dems in Florida supported the decision, so it's not like they were screaming to the rafters about the unfairness of it all. They had the option of holding a later caucus or write-in primary, and chose not to do so, regardless of their reasoning.

But the point is that the candidates were told that the states would not be seated, and that's all that matters in the end. No campaigning allowed means no delegates should be seated. As for Michigan...it was a dirty trick for Hillary to leave her name on the ballot while the other two major candidates pulled theirs off. She no more "won" that state than she's won any other where a vote has yet to take place.

That's all I wanted to point out. Nothing more. Maybe I wasn't clear to anyone except myself.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

There is an awful lot of buzz going around right now that she will do the exact opposite of that, as she's already claiming both states as "victories". For the good of the party, I would hope she wouldn't pull a stunt like that, but I'll believe it when I see it. The question becomes, would she rather win at any cost, or win fairly, or does it matter to her?

It had better matter to her because she will be playing directly into the hands of the people who feel the 'Clintons will do anything to get what they want' and that will be a big help to John McCain's bid to become the next president.

 

[JARNJ3]

I think this is good news for the party.

(CNN) – He's the most prominent Democrat yet to take a side in the presidential election, but two sources close to Al Gore tell us not to expect the former vice president to endorse either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama any time during the primary season.

The sources say Gore talks with both Clinton and Obama, and is on good terms with both. But with Sen. John Kerry and Bill Clinton both aligned to a candidate, Gore has a role to serve as the neutral elder statesman in the party.

If an agreement needs to be struck between Clinton and Obama down the road, Gore is in position to be the likely facilitator of that discussion.

Gore also will want to work closely with whoever wins the nomination to promote an environmental agenda.

As for two other major Democrats yet to endorse a candidate: sources close to both Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi say neither individuals have endorsement plans.

 

[eclectics]

I think this is good news for the party.

Edwards closed door meeting with Obama was postponed, perhaps indefinitely. Although I'm not sure what exactly that hints at, I wonder if Gore might change his mind if Edwards comes out and endorses Hillary.

 

[JARNJ3]

Edwards closed door meeting with Obama was postponed, perhaps indefinitely. Although I'm not sure what exactly that hints at, I wonder if Gore might change his mind if Edwards comes out and endorses Hillary.

I would be shocked if Edwards supported Hillary....... though rumor has it that John Glenn will. But we've seen how great these endorsements worked - Massachusetts\California? Unless all these smaller states Obama is winning is a result of those endorsements....... Who knows! I'm glad I'm not in that business

I am sure Hillary wouldn't turn it down!

 

[chris1gill]

Did anyone hear Michelle Obama speak on Larry King tonight? I heard about half the interview. I was impressed with her knowledge, poise and answers. She herself seems to be incredibly grounded, or that was my sense.

I have not heard her speak in the past, so maybe this is news or (not) to others, but I was impressed with her.