The Kingdom Keepers-A Walt Disney World Novel

a reply to the question about the Peter and the Star Catcher book - my 11 year old got it at a book fair last year and loved it. i picked it up the other day and am about 3 or 4 chapters into it. so far its not bad. a decent read.
 
That book looks awesome!!! My ds was 5 on our last visit, but is 10 now and loves to read - we are driving to WDW and would like to pick it up for him to read - would he enjoy it more with more vivid memories of MK after our trip, or would he enjoy reading it first and then visiting MK? He seems to have a good memory of the parks but not sure...

Also, my DD is almost 8 and a good reader - any suggestions for her along the same lines - a story that takes place in the parks...not so sure she would like the Fairy Dust and the Quest for the Magic Egg.
 
I don't know.. I was thinking of reading this book, but due to all the inaccuracy, I may not now... I know I'll just be shaking my head as I'm reading it. Taking the monorail to MGM...that's just ridiculous. As a former MGM CM, I got the question all the time: "Where's the monorail? How do I take it to MK?" For it to be published is only going to make mtters worse. grrr
 
I haven't read the book.. yet :) ...just read the summary on Amazon's website.

I'm really puzzled though why so many people seem to be bothered by inaccuracies like a monorail to MGM. We all know there currently isn't one, but rumors are always floating about that they will extend/add a new line. That bothers people but "holographic" tourguides showing guests around don't? :confused3

It's called suspension of disbelief. It sounds like the author tried to base the book on facts then threw in the "magical" things kids could imagine happens when the lights go out. Think back to when you were a kid at Disney. Wouldn't it seem cool to swim through Splash? Or have Space Mountain actually take you to space? Same for Mission Space. What about the old 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride.... imagine it really did take you on a submarine ride and maybe you lost the battle with the squid - you'd have to swim for the surface. Now you really couldn't swim in that ride, but look where a kid's (or even adult's) adventurous imagination could take it. I could go on and on with just about every ride. WDW is an imaginative kid's dream factory!
 

JRawkSteady said:
I don't know.. I was thinking of reading this book, but due to all the inaccuracy, I may not now... I know I'll just be shaking my head as I'm reading it. Taking the monorail to MGM...that's just ridiculous. As a former MGM CM, I got the question all the time: "Where's the monorail? How do I take it to MK?" For it to be published is only going to make mtters worse. grrr

The monorail to MGM was just to keep the story going quicker. It is a FICTION story! Who says Pearson can't make stuff uP?
 
Plutofan1 said:
The monorail to MGM was just to keep the story going quicker. It is a FICTION story! Who says Pearson can't make stuff uP?

Its poor research and editing.

There was nothing in the plot that required the monorail to go to MGM.

The guy just didn't KNOW it doesn't go there.
A good editor would have caught and fixed it.

The "hook" of the book is that it is all about a place we all know about, care about, and can visit.
Using the rides as the basis for the plot is great.
But that makes the MISTAKES stick out so much worse.
We've all seen these kind of technical errors on TV and in the movies.
And we've all discussed them. That's all I'm doing.

If you love the book, that's fine.
And I know its a kids book, but we here are discussing that we, as adults are reading it, so I think I am allowed to point out the things that I found so ODDLY mistaken about something that was SUPPOSED to be based on so much RESEARCH.

I suggest you re-read the INTRO in the book where the author names the names of CM's who helped him with "facts", his editors and how much time he spent in MK and WDW to get it all RIGHT.

But after reading, to me he's still an "outsider" to the way WDW actually "works".

You'll note I didn't criticize him "finding" hidden dungeons under a major attraction...
or the new "technology" of the VR "Hosts"...
or that an "old-timer" CM lives over the Fire Station...
or that something at MGM that belonged to a major player at WDW held a "key" to the drama.
Now, THOSE things are the kind of "artistic licenses" that DO further the plot.
Other of his bits are right-on:
I loved that a person was almost unseen as he sat next to a statue of Goofy in front of the Opera House... Its a great statute that I've seen many times.
I looked for the "hidden door" at the MGM exhibit that leads to the "room" in question... it IS there.

But making plain old MISTAKES about what we all know to be simple everyday WDW facts (Monorail example)... is just ODD.
He certainly knows that there are lots of BUSES... he uses one prominently in the book.

I loved the "swimming" in Splash Mtn. I remeber thinking "what will happen when they get to the big LIFT?"
Every WDW veteran (little kids to grandpa) knows that the "big LIFT" is where you get READY (and get NERVOUS)... so why didn't he just write that the kids were "caught in the mechanism" that pulls the logs up to the big drop instead of just IGNORING that there IS one... that's a pretty big oversight... its SPLASH MOUNTAIN, for heaven's sake... in nearly everyone's top 5 WDW attractions... at least give us THAT right.

I loved the creature that comes alive on BTM, but that thing is actually at the very END of the BTM ride and he has the kids running and running toward the end of the ride (when they would already BE there).
All he would have had to change would be to have the kids turn around and run the OTHER WAY, but he didn't bother to fix it.

It simply must be because he just didn't KNOW or CARE how the rides actually work.
That's lack of attention to details.
That's just not Disney.

(I have been rather "vague" about my examples above so as not to ruin any plot-points for those who've not yet read the book.)

I wish I had liked the book more. I tried to.
We listened to the audio version, and my wife (also a major WDW lover) kept falling asleep.
So there are at least two of us who were less than thrilled.
Sorry.
 
akalittleeva said:
Also, my DD is almost 8 and a good reader - any suggestions for her along the same lines - a story that takes place in the parks...not so sure she would like the Fairy Dust and the Quest for the Magic Egg.

There's Mystery at Disney World by Carole Marsh.

I remember posts that objected to the premise though.
 
I agree with Robo - the reason the inaccuracies bother me are because they are apparantly "researched..." I can't read something that's going to make me say "NO! That's not how it happens at all!" There's a big difference between Fiction and Wrong. If an author writing a fictional story about 3 alligators said he researched alligators for the story and then started talking about the alligator's horns and beak, it would probably deter you as well, right?
 
JRawkSteady said:
I agree with Robo - the reason the inaccuracies bother me are because they are apparantly "researched..." I can't read something that's going to make me say "NO! That's not how it happens at all!" There's a big difference between Fiction and Wrong. If an author writing a fictional story about 3 alligators said he researched alligators for the story and then started talking about the alligator's horns and beak, it would probably deter you as well, right?
I emailed the author and he said that one of the reasons for the monorail to MGM was so the kids could get to One Man's Dream before it closed (they needed to be there when the film was being showed for the last time that night). They only had 15 minutes to get there. I didn't even notice the mistake to Big Thunder Mountain and the only thing I think he should have changed was Splash Mountain (have the kids being hauled up the lift would have been better). I don't think you can judge the book before reading it. Robo= :sad2:
 
Plutofan1 said:
I emailed the author and he said that one of the reasons for the monorail to MGM was so the kids could get to One Man's Dream before it closed (they needed to be there when the film was being showed for the last time that night). They only had 15 minutes to get there.

Oh, well... SURE.
The next time I only have 15 minutes to get to MGM from MK. I'll "make up" a monorail that goes there.
:rotfl2:

Give me a POOH-SIZED BREAK!
HE was the one who DECIDED that the kids "only had 15 minutes to get there".
And he just goofed on his transportation method.
It doesn't "ruin" the book... but its still a GOOF.
 
I thought Kingdom Keepers was a great idea; but poor in it's execution. Although the Small World part did creep my 9 yr. old daughter and I out. In fact, she was a bit leery to ride that ride. I have to admit we both look over our shoulders as we passed by the different parts-just in case.. :rotfl:
I liked "Peter and the Starcatchers" better.
This past vacation to DW(3 weeks ago), my daughter got a fabulous book.."Disney Villians... The Top Secret Files". It's absolute HOOT!!! If you enjoyed the My Side of the Story books, this is great(My Side of the Story- has both sides of Snow White, Cinderella, Ariel story-told by the heroine and villian. They're great.) It shows Disney's most famous villians and their childhoods. It's Awesome! We bought at MGM and our family just poured over it while waiting for Fantasmic.. We loved the pictures of the villians as little children. Our fav was Gaston's baby picture.. IT's so clever!!!! (It also has one of my favorite but neglected villain- Madame Medusa-from the Rescuers.. I love the baby pics of Brutus and Nero..)
In fact, I think I want to be a Villainologist... :rotfl2:
 
angel's momma said:
There's Mystery at Disney World by Carole Marsh.

I remember posts that objected to the premise though.

It's creepy. My daughter and I read it when she was 8. Kids get kidnapped and held in the castle. We were so excited to have "discovered" this book, and it started out good but as it went on it got weird with the kidnapping plot and ran out of steam.

My daughter LOVED the "Kingdom Keepers" and "Peter and the Starcatchers" and also the Quest for the Magic Egg book. She is visually impaired (learning Braille for easier reading) and still pushed herself to read these til her eyes were sore because she couldn't put them down. I don't care about the inaccuracies - they entertained a little girl for a few weeks and got her to READ. That's what counts, really. They are creative and imaginitive.

Lives4Disney :)
 
the kingdom keepers is great! do you no of a more specific release date for the sequel?
 
I just got my book in the mail yesterday, and will start it next week. :thumbsup2
 
rabyoga said:
This past vacation to DW(3 weeks ago), my daughter got a fabulous book.."Disney Villians... The Top Secret Files". It's absolute HOOT!!! If you enjoyed the My Side of the Story books, this is great(My Side of the Story- has both sides of Snow White, Cinderella, Ariel story-told by the heroine and villian. They're great.) It shows Disney's most famous villians and their childhoods. It's Awesome! We bought at MGM and our family just poured over it while waiting for Fantasmic.. We loved the pictures of the villians as little children. Our fav was Gaston's baby picture.. IT's so clever!!!! (It also has one of my favorite but neglected villain- Madame Medusa-from the Rescuers.. I love the baby pics of Brutus and Nero..)
In fact, I think I want to be a Villainologist... :rotfl2:

My daughter would love the My Side of the Story books - thanks! Which store did you get the Disney Villians book from?
 
I have Disney Villians-Top Secret Files also. I like it as well. I ordered mine from Barnes and Noble.
 
My DH bought it the last time we were at WDW and read it to our kids every night for their bedtime story. They finished it shortly after we got home. The kids LOVED it and did not notice the inaccuracies. They just thought it was cool that there was a "story" about all the things at WDW. I can't wait for another one to come out. We also just started the Quest for the Egg and my DD8 has read all five of the Tinkerbell fairy series. She can't wait for more of those as well.
 
Can some one give more info on the Jack Sparrow books and the sequel to Kingdon Keepers? I'm going to look into the villians book as well. My boys and I had a great time reading Kingdom Keepers prior ot our recent trip and had a fun time looking at the attractions and characters in a whole new, fun light.
 










Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE














DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter

Back
Top