The Genie Usage, Tips and Strategy ONLY Thread

[thanxfornoticin]

Thrill Data doesn’t have info for Remy at all. I guess it’s because it doesn’t have posted wait times.

Yea, I think that's right. No standby line and no posted wait times to monitor.

 

[mom2rtk]

Not every time. It’s random and seems to only happen for ILL and purchasing Genie+.

They never should have rolled out this system with those pass code stops in place. It's ridiculous, arbitrary and absolutely awful from a guest service standpoint. If there was no way to do it without, they should have waited until they found a way.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

They never should have rolled out this system with those pass code stops in place. It's ridiculous, arbitrary and absolutely awful from a guest service standpoint. If there was no way to do it without, they should have waited until they found a way.

Do we have any idea what triggers the passcode? Change of country, change of state? WDW WiFi?

 

[mom2rtk]

Do we have any idea what triggers the passcode? Change of country, change of state? WDW WiFi?

I haven't seen any theories.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Come on guys. Don’t let the side down. We need theories! Maybe this needs its own thread?

 

[AndreaDanger]

Do we have any idea what triggers the passcode? Change of country, change of state? WDW WiFi?

Completely anecdotal, but I've only had it happen while using WDW wifi. It has not happened to me yet while using off-property wifi or my phone's data.

 

[sam1985]

Okay here now so real example:
TT LL 10-1 and Remy BG2.
Can I book my next LL after tap or is it at 12?
Thinking TT then Remy incase Remy has a long VQ. Maybe try to squeeze in Mission Space before TT after Frozen

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Completely anecdotal, but I've only had it happen while using WDW wifi. It has not happened to me yet while using off-property wifi or my phone's data.

I have started a separate thread, so that this one doesn’t get clogged up.

 

[katyringo]

Okay here now so real example:
TT LL 10-1 and Remy BG2.
Can I book my next LL after tap or is it at 12?
Thinking TT then Remy incase Remy has a long VQ. Maybe try to squeeze in Mission Space before TT after Frozen

After you tap in! If there are two tap ins in the line it will be after the second one.

 

[coolbrook]

That’s good to know, thanks! We have a super short trip so I might just pay for Remy if it gets us through quicker.

Paying for an ILL will usually get you through much quicker than the VQ. The comparison is like the regular line to a lightning lane.

 

[cjlong88]

Checked the all this morning at 8:30 am. Still LL availability for Slinky and Rise. Wondering if the crowds less today? Or…is it that they might not release everything at 7am and if you are willing to refresh the app every so often and be patient you will probably find what you’re looking for?

We are visiting between December 17th - 19th and plan to try the exact same HS evening stacking strategy we did back in mid-November to test if the LL’s are really selling out quicker or if we just need to refresh a little more before taking the first things we see.

 

[holyrita]

Checked the all this morning at 8:30 am. Still LL availability for Slinky and Rise. Wondering if the crowds less today? Or…is it that they might not release everything at 7am and if you are willing to refresh the app every so often and be patient you will probably find what you’re looking for?

We are visiting between December 17th - 19th and plan to try the exact same HS evening stacking strategy we did back in mid-November to test if the LL’s are really selling out quicker or if we just need to refresh a little more before taking the first things we see.

Watching since 7am this morning and it definitely seems quieter today. I think something weird happened with ROTR though, it's been showing 6:40pm availability since like 7:20am? Immediately sold out when it was open for everyone at 9:00:10am though!

 

[lostprincess_danie]

I am trying to advise a friend on Genie+ for her future trip but the "closed the stacking loophole" discussions have confused me.

Our experience with Genie+ was pre-loophole. Example:
- 7a booked Slinky for 7:55p as only time available
- At 11a I would be eligible to make a new LL (2 hour rule)
- 11a book ToT for 12p
-Tap into ToT 12p and be immediately eligible to make another LL while Slinky LL hangs out later in the day.
- For remainder of day be able to use my tap/reserve LL eligibility, until Slinky at 7:55p

Am I understanding correctly that NOW the tap/reserve while holding a later LL no longer works?? This is how it now would be:

- 7a booked Slinky for 7:55p (as only time available)
- At 11a I would be eligible to make a new LL (2 hour rule)
- 11a book ToT for 12p
- Tap into ToT 12p and NOT eligible until 2 hour cool down (1p) expires OR I use Slinky at 7:55p
- I'm stuck waiting 2 hour cooldown period all day because my Slinky LL is so late.

 

[cjlong88]

I am trying to advise a friend on Genie+ for her future trip but the "closed the stacking loophole" discussions have confused me.

Our experience with Genie+ was pre-loophole. Example:
- 7a booked Slinky for 7:55p as only time available
- At 11a I would be eligible to make a new LL (2 hour rule)
- 11a book ToT for 12p
-Tap into ToT 12p and be immediately eligible to make another LL while Slinky LL hangs out later in the day.
- For remainder of day be able to use my tap/reserve LL eligibility, until Slinky at 7:55p

Am I understanding correctly that NOW the tap/reserve while holding a later LL no longer works?? This is how it now would be:

- 7a booked Slinky for 7:55p (as only time available)
- At 11a I would be eligible to make a new LL (2 hour rule)
- 11a book ToT for 12p
- Tap into ToT 12p and NOT eligible until 2 hour cool down (1p) expires OR I use Slinky at 7:55p
- I'm stuck waiting 2 hour cooldown period all day because my Slinky LL is so late.

Your understanding is correct (I think)…

 

[lostprincess_danie]

Your understanding is correct.

This sounds like a nightmare if a popular ride gets pushed to later LL times quickly in the morning. And because of the 2 hour rule you might get only 4 or 5 LL the whole day (assuming they don't run out.)

 

[katyringo]

I need a genie+ for this Gideon's line.

 

[dez1978]

thrill-data should have this info

I don’t see that it tracks remy. I’ve looked several times. Maybe I’m missing it

 

[itf]

I don’t see that it tracks remy. I’ve looked several times. Maybe I’m missing it

You're right, it doesn't. They track paid LL availability for ROTR so had assumed they would for Remy.

 

[GBRforWDW]

11a book ToT for 12p
- Tap into ToT 12p and NOT eligible until 2 hour cool down (1p) expires OR I use Slinky at 7:55p
- I'm stuck waiting 2 hour cooldown period all day because my Slinky LL is so late.

Wouldn't you be eligible after you tap into ToT? Since that was your 11am selection?

 

[GBRforWDW]

I don’t see that it tracks remy. I’ve looked several times. Maybe I’m missing it

You're right, it doesn't. They track paid LL availability for ROTR so had assumed they would for Remy.

It's the standby line that is tracked, since Remy doesn't do standby, there's no data for them to track.