The Duggar Family is pregnant AGAIN!

[KatheeME]

I will not now, nor ever, apologize for anything I have said or for the way I feel. What is wrong with home churches? I have issues with building your home for the purpose of being your church and then taking the tax benefits for its. Can I start holding services in my home and start calling it a temple? I certainly can use the tax break.

I have issues with a family that in this day and age, assigns "girl" and "boy" chores and which are raising their children to continue on in clearly defined and stereotypical roles. I have issues with a family that does not allow children to be children and which does not allow kids to find their own talents and interests. I ahve issues with raising children in a cocoon.

I have issues with a family that has such a strong and negative environmental impact. You cannot tell me that 90,000 disposable diapers in one family is a good thing.

I have issues with parading your family on tv for the purpose of financial gain. You do that, and I will comment. It is vastly different than someone appearing on Dr. Phil. Michelle Duggar's crowing achievement is the fact that she can get pregnant at the drop of a hat.

I wonder about the damage that is being done psychologically to the kids. Sure, they seem happy, but their reactions on the Today show do lead me to believe that even they are wondering when enough is enough. Which one was wondering who would be the "buddy" to that baby. Children should not be raising children. If a parent wants to have multitudes of children, then they need to be prepared to raise them. Do not pass that off on your other children. They did not choose this life.

This post is very well done and I totally agree!
Kathee

 

[Charade]

I have issues with a family that in this day and age, assigns "girl" and "boy" chores and which are raising their children to continue on in clearly defined and stereotypical roles. .

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

 

[hentob]

Children should not be raising children. If a parent wants to have multitudes of children, then they need to be prepared to raise them. Do not pass that off on your other children. They did not choose this life.

 

[ilisao]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Why do you need a "line" between men and women? Do you feel threatened in some way? Why do you need traditional roles? Women have worked throughout history in many non-traditional roles.

My mother in law is Mennonite. And we have pictures of her and her sister on the roof of her family's house helping to build it.

Girls should be taught that they can take on any role they want. If they personally choose to take on what you would consider a traditional female role, fine. But to force them into that and not give them options? No way.

 

[hentob]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Should we think the same way about minorities having to stay in their "traditional roles"

Women did NOT choose to the role of cleaner, baker, laundry lady, child minder, maid, etc Men chose that role for women long, long ago

I say it's ok to disolve those lines

 

[LisaNJ25]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Because girls don't have to be barefoot and pregnant and becoming a baby factory.

 

[autumnbaby9]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Because some of us do not believe we should have to stay at home, pregnant and listen to every demand our husbands make.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

Should we think the same way about minorities having to stay in their "traditional roles"

Women did NOT choose to the role of cleaner, baker, laundry lady, child minder, maid, etc Men chose that role for women long, long ago

I say it's ok to disolve those lines

I prefer to be called "Laundry Mistress".

 

[KatheeME]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Why? Why? Why is okay for girls to think they can only do "girl" things, and boys can only do "boys" things?
Kathee

 

[Charade]

Because some of us do not believe we should have to stay at home, pregnant and listen to every demand our husbands make.

Did I say that? No, I didn't.

 

[Charade]

Why? Why? Why is okay for girls to think they can only do "girl" things, and boys can only do "boys" things?
Kathee

Because boys and girls are different.

 

[Disney Ella]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Because traditionally, women have gotten stuck with all the crap jobs that men feel are beneath them.

 

[autumnbaby9]

Did I say that? No, I didn't.

So what traditional roles where you talking about?

 

[Charade]

Because traditionally, women have gotten stuck with all the crap jobs that men feel are beneath them.

Like what? Dishes? Laundry? Cleaning the cat box? Ironing? Sewing?

 

[DISUNC]

Because boys and girls are different.

Yes they are!

Because traditionally, women have gotten stuck with all the crap jobs that men feel are beneath them.

Yup! Snaking a filthy toilet is
Climbing on top of a roof in blistering heat, to fix a leak is

When it comes to crappy jobs at home, I think for most people its a tie!

So what traditional roles where you talking about?

This is where I think everyone is getting confused about...great question!

 

[Disney Ella]

Yes they are!



Yup! Snaking a filthy toilet is
Climbing on top of a roof in blistering heat, to fix a leak is

When it comes to crappy jobs at home, I think for most people its a tie!

In the old days, if a man snaked a toilet or fixed the roof, it was done rarely, not daily as is the cooking, cleaning, laundry and child tending. The fact is that any of these jobs can be done by either sex. There is no part of any of these jobs that require that they be done by a specific sex. If two people are married, it makes more sense that the person who is better at a specific job, do that job. At my house, I like fixing things around the house, so I do that. DH hates that kind of stuff. As people we have strengths and weaknesses totally unrelated to our sexes.

 

[DISUNC]

In the old days, if a man snaked a toilet or fixed the roof, it was done rarely, not daily as is the cooking, cleaning, laundry and child tending. The fact is that any of these jobs can be done by either sex. There is no part of any of these jobs that require that they be done by a specific sex. If two people are married, it makes more sense that the person who is better at a specific job, do that job. At my house, I like fixing things around the house, so I do that. DH hates that kind of stuff. As people we have strengths and weaknesses totally unrelated to our sexes.

I agree! But I think its always been like this, for the most part. At least always in my family!!!!

 

[Charade]

As people we have strengths and weaknesses totally unrelated to our sexes.

And people have strengths and weaknessess totally related to their sex. That's what I'm talking about.

We are "wired" differently.

 

[rentayenta]

Because some of us do not believe we should have to stay at home, pregnant and listen to every demand our husbands make.

Oh crud, looks like I missed the memo.

 

[smartestnumber5]

Why do you have problems with this? Why can't we keep TRADITIONAL roles?

Why do we have to "level the playing field" and dissolve the line between men and women?

This stuff drives me crazy!

Seriously?

You seriously think it is okay for girls to be taught that it is their job to cook and clean for men, to produce babies for them, and to only take part in careers that are traditionally low paid, lower respect, and often require little education? And meanwhile men should be encouraged to take up any career that they like, to take up intellectual pursuits, and to "take care of women" by providing the income for the 20+ children they are required to carry and bear? Because that is the sense I get from this family and others that insist on "traditional" (i.e. sexist) gender roles.

Perhaps what's wrong with the traditional roles is that they are completely made up by society and horribly detrimental and disrespectful to women. There is nothing about having a ****** that makes women better able to cook or clean and nothing about having a ***** that makes men better able to be scholars or work on a car. That's why throughout history people have had to make up so many crack-pot rationalizations for these roles--"Oh women can't be allowed education because it will make their uteruses wander" or "Oh, we can't ask men to do their fair share of cleaning because that would be an insult to their masculinity."

Besides the obvious detrimental affects that traditional gender roles have had on women for hundreds of years (keeping them uneducated, financially dependent on men, having no power in society, etc) there is a lot of recent research showing other kinds of problems with traditional gender attitudes. Amongst other things strong adherence and belief in traditional gender roles is correlated with high levels of homophobia, low levels of intimacy, and most disturbingly strong belief in traditional gender roles has been shown to be a very reliable predictor of attitudes which downplay the seriousness of violence against women in intimate relationships and/or have an attitude of blame towards the female victim.

So really the question is--why in the heck would ANYONE support traditional gender roles when they have been nothing but detrimental to women?