The "Cult of Frozen"

Agree! Not that hard to figure out! Whenever I listen to the soundtrack, it strikes me how much it sounds like a Broadway musical. The quality of the music is outstanding. I liked the music of Tangled and Princess and the Frog, but neither of those movies have that Broadway sound. I've had "In Summer" bouncing around in my head all day.

I'm a guy in my mid-40's and as soon as I heard the music I thought it was great when I took my daughter to see it. I thought of a grand broadway musical immediately.

As for the other two, they didn't quite hit for one reason or another, Tangled was okay, somehow it missed the mark. But in all honestly Princess and the Frog seemed like nothing more than a huge marketing ploy by Disney to get an African American minority Princess so that those young girls would have someone more like them to relate to and the movie really missed on all levels. Disney should know by now, unfortunately it's the adults where you find the racists, the kids don't see color, they just see the Princess. :thumbsup2
 
I can tell Frozen is an awesome movie, and I can't even express how much I appreciate that it's sisterly love that saves the day, but I just hate winter so much it's hard for me to really appreciate it. I spent the whole movie thinking about how uncomfortable everyone must have been. :confused3
Love, love, love the Frozen movie!!! Lol, I will say though, it's been a super cold and snowy winter here and while watching the movie I kept thinking how they must be so cold, how could they have bare skin the in snow and not be just dying of cold! Especially Anna, and when she was wet and in that icy frozen dress! That was my only real thing, they just should have been colder! They never seemed like they were very cold for all that snow and ice! She should have been bundled up in a big warm parka and scarves and gloves, pants and boots, etc., lol!

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Aw, love this! Olaf is so great! Had my three young(4, 5, and 6),nephews for the weekend, and we all saw frozen the weekend it came out when I had them last. This weekend we saw Mr. Peabody and Sherman, which was pretty cute! But we all still picked Frozen as our fave! And my littlest one brought his singing/talking Olaf stuffy I got him with and we had fun with that this weekend. And found out one of my older nephews said he's playing violin on Let It Go in his music concert at school(8th grd) and he really liked it. Definitely crosses over many age groups, and females and males like it, it's great. :thumbsup2
 
But in all honestly Princess and the Frog seemed like nothing more than a huge marketing ploy by Disney to get an African American minority Princess so that those young girls would have someone more like them to relate to and the movie really missed on all levels. Disney should know by now, unfortunately it's the adults where you find the racists, the kids don't see color, they just see the Princess. :thumbsup2
Racist adults were all children at some point.
 
I must be in the minority here. Finally saw Frozen on Saturday (figured we might as well since we got Fastpasses to meet Anna & Elsa) and I just didn't think it was that good. It was a lot more dramatic than I was expecting it to be. Much prefer Tangled!
 

SnapesGirl said:
I must be in the minority here. Finally saw Frozen on Saturday (figured we might as well since we got Fastpasses to meet Anna & Elsa) and I just didn't think it was that good. It was a lot more dramatic than I was expecting it to be. Much prefer Tangled!

See it again. This may sound strange, but a number of people have reported liking it a great deal more the second time, including myself. After 4 viewings I love it.
 
Tom Wazeem here again!

I just can't let it go. Do you want to build a Blu-ray collection? The release is this Tuesday and betcha it sets records. When the UPS man stops by, Love will be an open door! And Olaf would say that spending money to buy your own copy of Frozen is an act of true love!

Frozen continues to go places on the charts that haven't been touched in, well, since the first time in forever. (This is also true of the music charts.) Below is the foreign and domestic box office numbers. We will know the final results... innnnnn summer! Okay, okay, my puns are a bit of a fixer upper, and bad writing like this is why some people believe reindeers are better than people, but I'm going to continue anyway.

Beware the frozen chart: Frozen came in #9 in the US box office chart this weekend, when it was originally projected to finish 11th. Can I say something crazy? That means it STILL hasn't left the top ten on the chart since November last year. At $396,356,000 domestic total, Frozen is likely to finish over $400 million. A great milestone. It is already in the top 20 US films of all time, and 8 of those films had multiple runs. Can I say something crazier? It is going to end up number 9 on the all time world wide list!

Regarding the foreign box office, Box Office Mojo said:

"Frozen finally reached Japan this weekend, and the wait was worth it: the animated sensation opened to a very strong $9.4 million. That's only 13 percent lower than Monsters University, which wound up earning over $90 million total in Japan.

Worldwide, Frozen has now grossed $1.027 billion. Over the weekend, it passed The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and Alice in Wonderland to move up to 15th place on the all-time chart. If it holds well in Japan—a reasonable assumption, given its performance in other markets—it will close in ninth place ahead of The Dark Knight Rises."

So remember, some movies are worth melting your credit for.
~Hey Tom Wazeem! :lmao: Thanks so much for the update! I can always make time to talk about Frozen!

~Frozen's performance at the box office has been so phenomenal! And, just not at the box office but across the board. I can't wait to hear the Blu Ray/DVD/Digital Copy stats, too!

~I was hoping for some news on a possible Frozen 2 -- even though I have some mixed feelings about it, but I guess it's way too soon. We'll see. :goodvibes
 
DRDISNEYMD said:
~Hey Tom Wazeem! :lmao: Thanks so much for the update! I can always make time to talk about Frozen!

~Frozen's performance at the box office has been so phenomenal! And, just not at the box office but across the board. I can't wait to hear the Blu Ray/DVD/Digital Copy stats, too!

~I was hoping for some news on a possible Frozen 2 -- even though I have some mixed feelings about it, but I guess it's way too soon. We'll see. :goodvibes

I just saw an article that Frozen was the number one selling kids movie at Amazon based only on pre-orders!! The Frozen movie display at my local Target was empty of Blu-rays and had just a few DVD's by 6pm yesterday! And the Frozen toys were picked clean. I'll bet it sets huge records.
 
I just saw an article that Frozen was the number one selling kids movie at Amazon based only on pre-orders!! The Frozen movie display at my local Target was empty of Blu-rays and had just a few DVD's by 6pm yesterday! And the Frozen toys were picked clean. I'll bet it sets huge records.

Reviving this thread! :cool1:

I believe Frozen sold over 3 million on the first day alone, if I'm correct? I forget where I heard this from. I just remember it being somewhere in the millions.
 
Cult Member (Level 7 ice master) Tom Wazeem here. This is a fantastic article from Forbes on Frozen that talks about why it is a success and puts it in good perspective. Especially its standing as a "female centric" film.

"Frozen‘s success is more than just another preordained blockbuster in fact becoming a blockbuster. It’s a film that opened well and then kept on chugging because audiences loved it, and because the market craved it. That’s why it matters."

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Box Office: Disney's 'Frozen' Tops $400M
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/04/26/box-office-disneys-frozen-tops-400m/

On its 155th day of domestic release, Walt Disney’s animated smash Frozen has crossed $400 million at the domestic box office. Coming off a $67 million Fri-Sun debut over its $93m Thanksgiving weekend opening, the film has earned a mammoth 5.9x its opening weekend number. And while rank doesn’t matter per-se, its 17-week hold in the top ten brings to mind the kind of old-school hits like Ghostbusters and Back to the Future that used to just play for months and months on end.

Heck, Frozen has been out on VOD since February 25th and available on DVD since March 18th. Frozen has actually earned $15.7m since its VOD release and $3.3m since it dropped on DVD/Blu-Ray and sold 3.8 million copies in a single day. This wasn’t just a predetermined smash hit. Frozen touched a nerve around the world in a way few films do today.

The film crossed $1 billion about a month ago and continues to move higher up the all-time grossers list. With $1.13b worldwide, it is currently sitting at 6th, sandwiched between Iron Man 3 ($1.2b) and Transformers: Dark of the Moon ($1.12b).It was already the biggest-grossing non-sequel not directed by James Cameron. In America, the picture is a little more complicated. While the worldwide grossers list is tilted towards recent 3D-infused sequels, the top grossers list in America is still dominated by somewhat original properties. As such, Frozen is the 19th film to cross $400m in 16 years and the ninth non-sequel to do so, behind Jurassic Park (aided by last year’s 3D-reissue), Spider-Man, The Hunger Games, The Lion King (aided by 2011′s 3D-reissue), E.T. (aided by multiple reissues), Star Wars (more reissues that you can count), Titanic, and Avatar.

In terms of first-release only, Frozen is actually the fifteenth-biggest grosser in America and the fifth-biggest non-sequel. If you want to get specific, Frozen is the sixth-highest-grossing film in America not based on a known property that made it into a presold blockbuster, behind The Lion King Star Wars, E.T., and the James Cameron duo. As someone who started keeping track of box office back when Batman‘s $250m domestic gross was enough for a spot on the top-five, it’s a little refreshing to kind an example of where $400 million in domestic grosses is still both surprising and a result of old-school zeitgeist as opposed to massive openings so large as to get them over the hump with just the slightest of legs.

The first film to cross $400 million domestic was actually Star Wars, which used the $136 million earned by its special edition reissue in 1997 to push it over the hump. Titanic followed that December to cross not just $400m but also $500m and $600m, a feat not bested until The Dark Knight ($533m) in 2008 and The Avengers ($623m) in 2012. Well, aside from Avatar in 2009, which earned $760m. Like the $1 billion worldwide grosser, the $400m benchmark was once an unfathomable milestone that went from plausible to almost expected for the very biggest films in just under a decade.


But that doesn’t make the milestone any less impressive for Frozen, especially considering the demographics. As you look at that top-grossers list, you don’t find very many female-centric pictures. You’ve got the Leonardio DiCaprio/Kate Winslet-starring Titanic, the action-centric The Hunger Games, and male-skewing films that played well to both genders (pretty much anything that goes that high needs gender-neutral appeal). Frozen is the only unapologetic “chick flick” on the $400m list that had no male heartthrob, mass destruction, or hard action to sell. It is a film not just about a lone woman in a (stereotypically) male-centric genre (war, action, etc.), but about women and with little to entice the male gender beyond its quality.

So yes, Frozen should be celebrated as a box office milestone, both in terms of its final gross, in terms of how it made its money (slowly, fueled by word of mouth), and how it bucked conventional wisdom (it’s an unapologetically female-centric fairy tale). It’s proven yet again that a female-centric film can reach just as high on the blockbuster scale as a conventionally male-centric one. It has helped make the gender divide in popular entertainment a part of the common conversation, to the point where LEGO Movie 2 director Chris McKay admitted to The Daily Mail, apparently without prompting, that his sequel would correct the gender imbalance found in the first smash hit.

Frozen‘s success is more than just another preordained blockbuster in fact becoming a blockbuster. It’s a film that opened well and then kept on chugging because audiences loved it, and because the market craved it. That’s why it matters.
 
But she also gives up everything - her country, home, her family, her tail - for a guy she doesn't even know. In fact, for a guy she's barely even glimpsed more than twice. She's even willing to die for the dude!

I'm with Ariel's dad... she needs a kick in the rear.

("But daddy! It's trooo wuv!")




Beast repeatedly yells at her and frightens her, but she quickly forgives him every time. And then decides she loves him... because he's willing to let her teach him to read.

She sings about wanting more than this provincial life, and about far off places, but ultimately settles for life in an isolated castle in the middle of the woods.





I do like Jasmine, but what I *really* liked was how Frozen made fun of the whole "falling in love at first meeting sequence". They were definitely poking fun at Aladdin there!




And then Simba grows up to save his mum and all the other lionesses by defeating Scar. The lionesses did nothing to save themselves.

Of course, if you know anything about real lions, the story gets even more disturbing from there... ;)




It's honestly not one of my favourites. The natives are noble and live in mystical harmony with the land. The Englishmen are buffoons who live in a industrial nightmare, polluting everything (except for John Smith - he's hot).

And the real 12 year old Pocahontas is transformed into a sexpot of a Disney princess. Catchy music, though!




The lesson: Crippled guys can pine after the hot chick, but they'll never get her. Because they're ugly and crippled and that's just not how Disney rolls.





Yes! Mulan pretends to be a guy in order to save China and kicks butt while busting gender stereotypes.

She doesn't even fall for the hero at first sight. They both have to earn each other's respect.

I love everything about Mulan!

Although, ultimately she can't stay in the army and her "happy ending" is just getting married and presumably popping out cute babies for the next several years.




Pretty much, but I do enjoy the fact that Jane can draw.




I did - it's part of the new series of Disney movies, and I think they've been knocking them out of the park lately. Tiana is a very strong role model for girls, and there's a nice lesson in there about not letting your ambitions get in the way of your relationships with the people you care about.

The male lead is as irresponsible as Tiana is overly responsible, and they both have to grow. Plus, great music!



True! The newest movies have been turning all the old Disney tropes on their heads. This one was almost more about the relationship between Rapunzel and her "mother", than about Rapunzel and Flynn.

Plus, she beans him with a frying pan on first meeting him, which is awesome.




I think the earliest Disney movies - Snow White, Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella (though she did have some backbone, at least!), set the tone for what a "Disney Movie" is supposed to be. And the Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast (can anyone say "Stockholm Syndrome"?) didn't really improve matters.

On the other hand, Tangled, Brave, Princess and the Frog and Frozen, have all taken the "Princess Movie" genre to an entirely new level.

I think Disney has a lot to be proud of! :thumbsup2

Perfectly stated.
 












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