THE Conservative Thread: Country First!

[breezy1077]

Rasmussen's on Fox. McCain is 50% Obama 47%....says it's significant...not only reaching 50% but, he hasn't lost any of his bounce. Also, saying McCain is now leading in the electoral vote. Says election shaping up like 2004. McCain has 6% advantage among unaffliated voters. Republicans are more excited about the election than Obama supporters. There is a declining interest from young voters and women about the election in general.....bad news for Obama.

I think we can expect things to get pretty ugly from here on out.

 

[wardfamily1]

I think we can expect things to get pretty ugly from here on out.

Yes, the next month and a half are going to be very ugly.

 

[Pop Daddy]

Earlier this week, Barack Obama promised that he would sharpen his attacks on John McCain in response to panicking Democrats watching their gimme election vanishing before their eyes. Instead of coming up with something new, Team Obama has decided to go with an old attack — by calling McCain old. Two days ago, they tried it with the blindingly stupid e-mail ad, and today they’ve apparently farmed the theme out to their surrogates:



http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/14/everything-new-is-old-again/

 

[Tink & Goofy]

I think we can expect things to get pretty ugly from here on out.

 

[breezy1077]

MR MANNNN.......someone should send out the Bat Signal for him. I hope he's ok

Con thread to Mr Man......calling Mr Man....

 

[breezy1077]

Well, I think we need some drinks SM.

Whatcha got?

 

[breezy1077]

Earlier this week, Barack Obama promised that he would sharpen his attacks on John McCain in response to panicking Democrats watching their gimme election vanishing before their eyes. Instead of coming up with something new, Team Obama has decided to go with an old attack — by calling McCain old. Two days ago, they tried it with the blindingly stupid e-mail ad, and today they’ve apparently farmed the theme out to their surrogates:



http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/14/everything-new-is-old-again/

It didn't work with Reagan, and it won't work with McCain....that's my prediction. The only thing I see it doing is alienating voters - I love it.

 

[Jennifer S]

Rasmussen's on Fox. McCain is 50% Obama 47%....says it's significant...not only reaching 50% but, he hasn't lost any of his bounce. Also, saying McCain is now leading in the electoral vote. Says election shaping up like 2004. McCain has 6% advantage among unaffliated voters. Republicans are more excited about the election than Obama supporters. There is a declining interest from young voters and women about the election in general.....bad news for Obama.

Yeah Baby!! Go Red.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Charlie Gibson Goes From Most Respected Anchor to Foolish Disgrace

It’s well known and well documented that Charlie Gibson is liberal. But he generally seems to be a well meaning, likeable liberal. He has only a cursory view of the economy, of geopolitics, in truth, of any significant issue, and a disinterest in all things military. But he’s a genuinely nice man, albeit one who is tremendously influenced, at least as far as politics is concerned, by the spiteful New York elites.

When the left has a cause celebre, he will regularly join hands with them, but on his terms, in a milder and gentler, and hopefully more fair manner. But his interview with vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin was way over the top. In fact, it was downright hypocritical.

I understand where Charlie is coming from. For months, the media has been lulled into the false notion that Obama, their newest hero in a long line of leftist cult personalities, was inevitable. And for a few years now, they’ve propagated a sense that Democrats would finally gain the White House after eight long years on the sidelines.

Electoral victories of Democrats is a matter the media elites take immensely personal. Bill Clinton’s victory in ’92 was seen as their victory, the ascension to power of all children of the 60s (although Clinton is more conservative than they are, we must bear in mind that perception always trumps reality when it comes to the whimsical allegiances of superficial media elites) . Their fierce allegiance has now transferred to their replacement hero, Obama, who is far more radical than Clinton ever was and who may be even more radical than the media elites are themselves.

So it’s understandable that they’re personally upset. What’s not excusable is that they’ve, in effect, walked off the job. They’re refusing to report and have instead assumed the role of attack dogs for their campaign of choice. Yes, they’ve favored, lied and manipulated the news for years, many times in very inexcusable ways. But they never campaigned as overtly for or against a campaign as they are now. They’ve never been so full of bile as they are today. They’ve never acted as outrageously and been so openly spiteful as they are with their anti-Palin, pro-Obama crusade. And in the process, they’ve thrown their integrity straight out the window.

Joining their ranks is the once respected Charlie Gibson. He’s done similar things before and his biases are very much a reality. But the sad thing is not that he was never as overtly biased as he is now, as is the case with the rest of the media. The truly sad part is that the level of nastiness and hypocrisy displayed by him is uncharacteristic and is a blemish on an otherwise fairly decent career (as decent as one can expect from one in today’s mass media).

His interview with Gov. Palin reached the point of insanity. It also displayed profound hypocrisy. He asked her whether she hesitated when asked to be John McCain’s running mate. When she replied in the negative, saying that she wanted to help in any way Sen. McCain felt best, Gibson actually asked her whether this didn’t show “hubris” on her part.

But where was Gibson when Barack Obama announced his run for the presidency in Nov. 2006 (after Time Magazine had done a cover story that October urging him to do so), at a time that he had less Senate experience than Palin has been Governor? And does anyone doubt the reaction of the media should Obama have chosen the governor with the highest approval rating in America as his running mate. We can agree there’s not much doubt what their reaction would have been.

Gibson and the media also fail to recognize the significance of Alaska’s proximity to Russia (failing to do so because they don’t want to). There’s a reason John McCain brought up the point. A few years ago, Vladimir Putin laid claim to the entire North Pole. As a result, any governor of Alaska is thrown head first into national security issues and international affairs even before they take office.

Even ABC’s “Fact Checker” got in on the game, playing fast and loose with the “facts.” When Gov. Palin said that “many vice presidents throughout history” would answer “no” the question of whether they had met with foreign leaders. “Fact” Checker Jake Tapper had a problem with that and deemed it “false.” He cited George H. W. Bush, Mondale, Al Gore and Dan Quayle as examples of vice presidents with great foreign policy experience (a stretch, to say the least, in many of the above cases). Of course, Palin’s statement was true and applies categorically to over 80% of past vice presidents.

But it gets even more ridiculous. Gov. Palin has more foreign policy experience to become Vice President than then Gov. Bill Clinton had when he became President. The same can be said of many recent presidents, with the only exception since Nixon being George H. W. Bush. Before that, with the exception of Eisenhower one needs to go back to James Buchanan to find a President with major foreign policy experience prior to assuming office (before him we’re looking at Martin Van Buren and John Quincy Adams, but you get the point).

This is the same media that pushed Mitt Romney as being a highly qualified vice presidential selection (namely because he had the biggest problem with independents). Romney had little more executive experience than Palin and business acumen does not usually translate into a knack for formulating good policy. Moreover, the same media that’s bashing Palin is also the same media that was touting Tim Kaine as a running mate for Obama just a few short weeks ago. Kaine has about a year’s more experience than Palin, with a far lower approval rating and less than a hundredth of what to show for his time in office than does Sarah Palin. Neither Romney nor Kaine took on the establishment of their state and their combined approval rating would only possibly equal that of Gov. Palin’s alone.

Governor Palin revamped a state and shook up an establishment. She’s shown good judgment and a will to work for the people. It’s not without reason that she enjoys a higher approval rating in her state than any other governor in the nation, stemming back to well before she was being considered as McCain’s vice presidential nominee. And the media needs to get over it.

Simply put, the media needs to stop acting like pigs in lipstick. (Speaking of which, Obama knew full well how his remarks would have been taken. The laughter with which his remarks were met by the crowd should have also made him think that one over.) Media elites need to start doing their jobs, or at least start pretending to do so.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5004

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Well, I think we need some drinks SM.

Whatcha got?

Since it's game day for a lot of us, help yourselves and enjoy the food and beverages.

 

[debbieandroo]

It didn't work with Reagan, and it won't work with McCain....that's my prediction. The only thing I see it doing is alienating voters - I love it.

Oh, Breezy, I hope so! I, being the idiot that I am, [quoting Michael what's-his-nose from Huff-n-Puff Post] love SP through and through. But, I would hate for the McCain camp to keep her doing the same speech, make the same kinds of appearances. She's shown herself to be poised and quick-thinking and tough but not scary and hands-off like Hillary. They really need to use that - showcase the reason to vote for the McCain/Palin ticket instead of relying on the Obama camp to attack, then spend time refuting them. I know they're trying NOT to do what Kerry did in '04 - ignore the bad press and lose the election [although I do believe that really wasn't Kerry's downfall - Kerry's downfall was....Kerry but that's another thread]. But we need to play on our strengths, thereby highlighting the other sides weaknesses.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

It didn't work with Reagan, and it won't work with McCain....that's my prediction. The only thing I see it doing is alienating voters - I love it.

I watched carefully on 9-11 when McCain and Obama made the decent to ground zero, and then more importantly making the trek back up. McCain kept pace and was not winded or sweating. A person in questionable physical condition would have exibited signs of stress.

 

[*disgal*]

I agree. My son goes to a public university where he is required to take a variety of DIVERSITY courses. The only diversity course open this semester was Black Women's History. The other day, he came home ripping because the teacher(I wil not even call her a professor) went around the room and asked them for whom they were voting. When he said McCain she gave him a hard time. LOOK, I pay taxes for this PUBLIC universtiy and as with k-12 public schools teachers or professors have NO right to try and influence my child's vote. HE got into a huge argument with the class and they called my son a racist b/c he was not voting for BO. Keep in mind all of his arugments were not to the man but to his lack of experience. If he is forced to take these classes then why should he be harrassed? I will not even write some of the things they said to him. This is not the first time that he has been harrassed in this type of diversity class.

Funny how rascism can only be rascism if it affects certain groups and not others. If the tables were turned it would be front page news.

PUBLIC school in any form should remain neutral considering who pays the salaries of these professors!

That is totally unacceptable! What are we to do about teachers like this? If you make too many waves, they take it out on your grade.

Gas was normal when I went out a few hours ago, Zip, but I'm in the northwest corner of the country. Our "normal" is about $3.80 for unleaded right now.

Ours is still the same up here...$3.77 and I have a gas card that gets it 10 cents cheaper. I thinks me best get some gas tomorrow.

I knew that McCain's war injuries prevented him from raising his arms above his shoulders so he can't throw a baseball or comb his hair, but he also has dexterity issues with his fingers from being repeatedly broken. He is unable to tie his own shoes or effectively use a keyboard. I don't think it was wise of the Obama camp to attack him on that angle. Also, I heard that Obama gave a speech last week and was mocking how McCain holds his arms at his sides in a bent, stiff fashion.

ETA: I just saw a thread was started about this issue.

Here's the video where some are claiming Obama mocked McCain. Go to about the 12:18 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L31go6-LAs0

Everyone here needs to go over to this thread:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1951165

Larak is the OP and started this thread. It is talking about Obama's new ad that says McCain is out of touch and is computer illiterate. She posted an aritlce from 2000 that says

One particular lib is saying it's a cheap political ploy. This makes me sick.

Yeah, I typed about 3 different multi-points-earning responses before I settled on "I am speechless." I am appalled at some of the responses there. "Oh, my old mother got a computer! If she can use one, he can too!" Really, you can't make this kind of depravity up. Some of these people are just soulless.

Holy cow, I just checked that thread and it's already over 20 pages. I don't think I have anything better to add, so I'll just stay here. But again.........I think someone in the BO campaign is not researching things correctly. They keep making mistakes like this and it makes them look bad. I'm sure they didn't realize Mac couldn't do email..........but they don't want to take away from that add so they won't apologize. They are stuck. Someone needs demoting.

Yes, you're right. I've gone over and tried to help as best I can.

Justice League, unite! Ward, LaraK, and our other friends need our help.

I love this! I'm going to be using this one, that's for sure. Too cool.

good evening!

I just read this and thought it was interesting..not sure if it has been posted here or not yet

WHO AMI????
I am under 45 years old
I love the outdoors
I hunt
I am a Republican reformer
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice-president after less than two years in the governor's office.
Do you know who I am?
.
.
.
.
TEDDY ROOSEVELT in 1900
Interesting huh!....

Yes, I heard that on Glenn Beck (radio) the other day. Awesome! I think Mac needs to use that in an ad, don't you think?

 

[breezy1077]

Since it's game day for a lot of us, help yourselves and enjoy the food and beverages.

Oh, Breezy, I hope so! I, being the idiot that I am, [quoting Michael what's-his-nose from Huff-n-Puff Post] love SP through and through. But, I would hate for the McCain camp to keep her doing the same speech, make the same kinds of appearances. She's shown herself to be poised and quick-thinking and tough but not scary and hands-off like Hillary. They really need to use that - showcase the reason to vote for the McCain/Palin ticket instead of relying on the Obama camp to attack, then spend time refuting them. I know they're trying NOT to do what Kerry did in '04 - ignore the bad press and lose the election [although I do believe that really wasn't Kerry's downfall - Kerry's downfall was....Kerry but that's another thread]. But we need to play on our strengths, thereby highlighting the other sides weaknesses.

Don't worry, Sarracuda's teeth will come out in the debates!

 

[happygirl]

Rasmussen's on Fox. McCain is 50% Obama 47%....says it's significant...not only reaching 50% but, he hasn't lost any of his bounce. Also, saying McCain is now leading in the electoral vote. Says election shaping up like 2004. McCain has 6% advantage among unaffliated voters. Republicans are more excited about the election than Obama supporters. There is a declining interest from young voters and women about the election in general.....bad news for Obama.

Go McCain

 

[breezy1077]

I watched carefully on 9-11 when McCain and Obama made the decent to ground zero, and then more importantly making the trek back up. McCain kept pace and was not winded or sweating. A person in questionable physical condition would have exibited signs of stress.

Good point!

 

[*disgal*]

Now, now, winkers...........play nice.

 

[Database]

Con thread to Mr Man......calling Mr Man....

Now that is a cool picture.

Yo! Yo! MrMan, I saw a 3600 Euro bottle of cognac at Fuchon! Nope. I didn't buy one for you or myself.

Minnesota is now a battleground state;

http://www.startribune.com/politics...3589.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Could there be hope for NJ??????????????
NAH

Keep HOPE alive dude!

Biden could open his mug and say something Biden-ish again!




AgentP will post pics as soon as I figure out how to download from the new camara. What? You're that I'm havin' problems.

 

[*disgal*]

It didn't work with Reagan, and it won't work with McCain....that's my prediction. The only thing I see it doing is alienating voters - I love it.

The more they try this one, the more the retirees in Florida make sure they get to the voting booth.............Yeah, baby.......we'll get Florida!

 

[SwedishMeatball]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWP5ljQV79s