THE Conservative Thread: Country First!

[What the Heck]

"It's time for a woman to make it to the White House"

"Nooooooooooooooooo, mine!"

 

[njzieglers]

Minnesota is now a battleground state;

http://www.startribune.com/politics...3589.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Could there be hope for NJ??????????????
NAH

 

[agentpleakley]

Because if one does they are called Racist? Or the OP is personally attacked with a whole bunch of nasty made up lies.

One is either on board the Obama Love Bus, or one gets runned over by the Obama Love Bus! Thats the only 2 options with OS'ers!

No truer words were ever spoken. They fail to respond to factual counterpoints to their arguments. They continue to revel in their "Yes, we can" mantra.

I think I'm invisible to the OS.

I've asked countless times to talk about Obama's experience and what qualifies him to be President and I never get a response.

They want to talk about issues, well then let's talk about issues. My number one issue with Obama is his total lack of experience. Yet, somehow that nasty little detail is too much for any of them to handle.

They cannot give answers -- all they can do is shoot venom and say he is not Bush, McCain is McSame, and Palin has no experience and is scary

What I would like answered is this: In his speeches (and many of the OS have similar quotes in their signatures), he spends so much time talking about “not a red America, not a blue America, but a United States of America”. He talks about uniting “Asians, Hispanics, whites and blacks”. He talks about uniting the rich and the poor. Yet, he is the most liberal member of the US Senate. He voted along the Democratic party line 97% of the time (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg9-2008sep09,0,695687.column), which is more often then McCain voted with Bush! He is so partisan and so far-left, how do all the OS think he is going to magically “unite the country”? How? Please….someone answer it!
Of course...we all know the OS will never be able to answer the question. They deflect, they twist words around and then they express how they’re only interested in “the real issues”.

I think they think he is going to spread some pixie dust and all will be well. If this country goes where he wants to take it - and with Pelosi and Reid in control of Congress it will -- there will be no coming back -- entitlement programs are never repealed -- he will totally usurp imagination, ingeniuity, and personal responsibility from an entire generation of Americans.

Thanks. I just gave them my opinion of the interview and told them I would never tune into ABC for news again.

Me too!!

Today was a miserable rainy day, all day long. After standing in the rain at my sons soccer game and going to a birthday party ruined by the weather, my daughter (11) complained about it and said "why does it have to be so rainy today?" My 10 year old son sarcastically answered "it's George Bush's fault." We roared laughing the whole drive home.

I said it once, I'll say it a hundred times. Kids hear what you say and repeat it! Beware!

 

[agentpleakley]

Is anyone watching this piece on the new Florida Anti-Voter Fraud Legislation. Apparently, the NAACP has filed a lawsuit. Apparently groups like ACORN (isn't this a group tied to Obama) are involved in fraud -- I'm off to look up more info.

But the bottom line is "What is so wrong with asking people to show their ID to prove that they are who they are?" If you can't do that - well - you shouldn't get to vote.

 

[wardfamily1]

Didn't he just become an American Citizen?

He did. I wish he was on earlier, I can't stay up that late to watch him so I'm reduced to youtube clips of him.

Is anyone watching this piece on the new Florida Anti-Voter Fraud Legislation. Apparently, the NAACP has filed a lawsuit. Apparently groups like ACORN (isn't this a group tied to Obama) are involved in fraud -- I'm off to look up more info.

But the bottom line is "What is so wrong with asking people to show their ID to prove that they are who they are?" If you can't do that - well - you shouldn't get to vote.

I don't think anything is wrong with it. By NAACP saying it's like a poll tax they are essentially saying a % of black Americans don't have I.D.? How do you get a job without ID? How do you get a bank account without ID? How can you be a functioning citizen if you don't have ID?

So, in essence, NAACP is saying black people aren't contributing to society, that's sounds like an incredibly racist remark to me. I think we should sick the ACLU on them for their racist remarks.

 

[heatherleigh]

I wish they would require ID everywhere. There are so many illegals where I live. It wouldn't surprise me if some were able to vote. Speaking of which, has anyone noticed the illegal immigration issue has not really been addressed by either candidate?

 

[TLSnell1981]

I ask daily that we will be given the president we need......not the one we deserve. I am happy to see the polls shifting. I pray that things will continue so.

 

[heatherleigh]

My husband is going to look into absentee voting for us. We'll actually be in DL on Nov. 4th. Hopefully the parks will be deserted.

 

[OceanAnnie]

My husband is going to look into absentee voting for us. We'll actually be in DL on Nov. 4th. Hopefully the parks will be deserted.

It seems like a really good time to go! All eyes will be on the talleys....

 

[amyhughes]

Ike has arrived in Indiana. It's weird, every time there is a gust the lights dim and flicker. We are getting gusts near 50 mph, and we are about 800 miles inland. The news said to be on the lookout for tornados. If it's this bad this far inland I can't imagine the roar as it comes ashore!

 

[transparant]

Why don't we ever see threads addressing this?:>William Ayers
(Weatherman Underground bomber, unrepentant domestic terrorist)

Frank Davis
(Member Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama)

/>Jeremiah Wright
(Black Liberation militant, racist, and Pastor)

Tony Rezko
(Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing)

/>Louis Farrakhan
(Nation of Islam Leader, racist, anti-American)


/>Communist Party Illinois
(US Communist Political Party)

Socialist Party USA
(Marxist Socialist Political Party)

/>The New Black Panther Party
(Black Militant Organization, anti-American and racist)


/>More than 80 attorneys for Guantanamo detainees
-who have been offering free-of-charge legal services.
Not surprising that lawyers for Muslim terrorists would support Obama.

/>The Communist Party USA

/>The Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism


/> Sam Graham-Felsen, (Obama campaign’s official blogger)
He spent time in France taking part in labor riots, has written for a socialist magazine, hung a communist flag in his home, and was a fan of Marx while at Harvard.

/>Kwame Kilpatrick

George Soros’ (slumlord undergoing trial) son, Jonathan Soros, an attorney and financier, recently promoted to deputy manager of Soros Fund Management , is personally involved with MoveOn.org’s activities.

/>Obama Youth
“Obama Youth” had as its logo the Islamic crescent and stars (until word got out on the net and they had to clean it up)


/>Project Islamic H. O. P. E.
..who displayed Obama as their banner boy until word got out and they had to clean that up.
Obama is no longer there on the site.


They all support, endorse, and/or friends and mentors and advisors of BO.

Just a test. Can you guys see this? Cause I posted it - but nobody addresses it. I'm beginning to wonder if its invisible....

 

[transparant]

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-woods-fund/2/

Obama and the Woods Fund

As a board member, Obama helped scratch a lot of backs with grants to politically connected groups.


September 13, 2008 - by Jennifer Rubin
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Also serving on the Woods Fund at the time was Palestinian activist and now professor at Columbia University Rashid Khalidi, whose wife headed AAAN. The Woods Fund granted AAAN $40,000 in 2001 and $70,000 in 2002. As Salon magazine wrote, this was “nepotism, Chicago style.”

Khalidi, a former spokesman for Yasser Arafat, held a fundraiser for Obama in 2000 during his unsuccessful bid for Congress. In 2003, during a dinner honoring Khalidi for becoming the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia, Obama warmly praised his friend, reminiscing about the many meals cooked for him by Khalidi’s wife Mona and of the discussions he and Khalidi held that were “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. … It’s for that reason that I’m hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation — a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid’s dinner table,” but around “this entire world.”

The pattern of funneling money to political allies and their allies is evident throughout Obama’s tenure at the Woods Fund. Tens and tens of thousands of dollars were granted to organizations including the Brighton Park Neighborhood Council, Business and Professional People for the Public Interest (BPPPI), the Center for Neighborhood Technology, Centers for New Horizons, the Chicago Jobs Council, the Chicago Education Fund, the Chicago Institute on Urban Poverty, the Chicago Urban League, The Gamaliel Foundation. Dozens of the board members and officials from these organizations in turn would donate money, in many instances up to the legal limit, for Obama’s Senate and Presidential races between 2004 and 2008.

For example the Woods Fund between 1999 and 2002 granted $60,000 to BPPPI. Board member and executives donated at least $16,950 to Obama’s political campaigns. The Woods Fund granted the Center of Neighborhood Technology $150,000 between 1999 and 2002. Obama received over $24,000 in campaign donations from its officials. And in turn Obama made sure to seek earmarks on their behalf once he reached the U.S. Senate.

A similar pattern of mutual financial help existed with regard to many of these organizations. While there is no evidence of an explicit quid pro quo, what is apparent is that the seeds of long term relationships and a network of financial support were sewn while Obama was a Woods board member.

Obama’s tenure with the Woods Fund is perhaps most noteworthy for his association with former terrorist Bill Ayers. Ayers served on the Woods board for three years of Obama’s tenure and remained on the board after Obama departed. Hillary Clinton raised this issue earlier this year at the Philadelphia debate when Obama, as he has done throughout the campaign, tried to minimize his relationship with Ayers.

That exchange was set off with a question asking Obama to explain his relationship with Ayers:

OBAMA: This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.

The fact is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those, either.

So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

CLINTON: Well, I think that is a fair general statement, but I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.

And, if I’m not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York and, I would hope, to every American, because they were published on 9/11, and he said that he was just sorry they hadn’t done more.

And what they did was set bombs. And in some instances, people died. So it is — I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about.

And I have no doubt — I know Senator Obama’s a good man and I respect him greatly, but I think that this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising.

Clinton was right, of course. Ayers also headed the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an educational foundation dedicated to school reform that was funded by an initial $49 million grant from the Annenberg family foundation. (Annenberg recently was in the news when the University of Chicago first sealed the records and then agreed to open them to National Review’s Stanley Kurtz and other reporters seeking to explore that organization’s records.)

The Woods Fund in 1999 granted $50,000 to the Annenberg Challenge — that is one organization on which Obama and Ayers served giving funds to another headed by Ayers and on which Obama also served as chairman for three years beginning in 1995 and then as a board member until 2001.

The Annenberg Challenge has since come under scrutiny — and Obama’s involvement therewith as well — because of criticism that the Annenberg Challenge failed to improve student achievement. The Los Angeles Times termed it a “bust.” A USA Today column in 1998 noted, “Expectations, in fact, may prove to be the biggest stumbling block to the legacy of the Annenberg gift. In some circles, conservatives see snail’s pace-progress among schools benefiting from Annenberg’s largesse and use it as a public school parable: Give big money to public schools and it will be absorbed into the bureaucracy with little benefit.” As Education Week put it, “It was ultimately unsuccessful in raising student achievement, according to evaluations of the project.”

Another recipient of the Woods Fund largesse was the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), an organization infamous for its left wing agenda. Stanley Kurtz who has researched ACORN’s far-left agenda described its “in your face tactics”:

Just think of Code Pink’s well-known operations (threatening to occupy congressional offices, interrupting the testimony of General David Petraeus) and you’ll get the idea. Acorn protesters have disrupted Federal Reserve hearings, but mostly deploy their aggressive tactics locally. Chicago is home to one of its strongest chapters, and Acorn has burst into a closed city council meeting there. Acorn protestors in Baltimore disrupted a bankers’ dinner and sent four busloads of profanity-screaming protestors against the mayor’s home, terrifying his wife and kids. Even a Baltimore city council member who generally supports Acorn said their intimidation tactics had crossed the line.

During Obama’s time on the Woods Funds ACORN received grants of $45,000 (2000), $30,000 (2001), $45,000 (2001), $30,000 (2002), and $40,000 (2002) from the Woods Fund. (Obama in the early 1990’s helped train ACORN organizers and later served as counsel in 1995 for ACORN in a “motor voter” registration lawsuit.) And ACORN certainly appreciated whatever assistance Obama afforded the radical organization over the years.

Founder Toni Foulkes enthusiastically backed Obama’s U.S. Senate run in 2004, declaring: “ACORN is active in experimenting with methods of increasing voter participation in our low and moderate income communities to virtually every election. But in some elections we get to have our cake and eat it too: work on nonpartisan voter registration and GOTV, which also turns out to benefit the candidate we hold dear [Obama].”

In short, no less than six years ago Obama served along side Ayers as a board member on an organization happy to pass out funds to radical left wing and anti-Israel groups. Moreover, the monies doled out through the Woods Fund to these groups, including Ayers own Annenberg Challenge, helped cement Obama’s political relationships and bond with key players in Chicago. None of this matches his current self-portrait of a politically moderate reformer. But like so much of Obama, that was then and this is now.

 

[loco4dis]

Hey guys. Rasmussen today has McCain at 50%, Florida and Pennsylvania are breaking for him, and now McCain and Obama are dead even in Minnesota! Minnesota! The only state that Mondale took in '84 against Reagan!

Could we be looking at a multi-state, yes-we've-got-a-mandate trouncing in November?! What do you all think!

I'm giddy, I tell ya'. Positively giddy.

 

[transparant]

Hey guys. Rasmussen today has McCain at 50%, Florida and Pennsylvania are breaking for him, and now McCain and Obama are dead even in Minnesota! Minnesota! The only state that Mondale took in '84 against Reagan!

Could we be looking at a multi-state, yes-we've-got-a-mandate trouncing in November?! What do you all think!

I'm giddy, I tell ya'. Positively giddy.

It is looking good. But we still need to stay humble and act like its the other way around. Still plenty of time till Nov - anything could happen. But as of right now - we are in an upswing on all fronts and it looks good!

 

[tinkryansmom]

You all keep me giggling.

I don't know how you keep going - posting relevent questions about the real issues that seem invisible when posted to be answered by Obamamites. They don't want to discuss issues they want to argue. Unitelligently.

Hilarie - LOL about your DS - I love it!

And I don't know about the birds chirping and apple pie smell either. I am in CA - just over the hill from SF and Berkeley and the lefties over there.

I think we should stop all media coverage of the candidates until a town hall meeting if there are some or the debates. That might be nice.

 

[mickeysgal]

And yet again, there is an OS that accuses McCain/Palin supporters of avoiding real issue talk. I throw the my number one issue out there which is Obama's lack of experience and as usual, dead silence.

I'm a thread killer if nothing else. Or on complete ignore from folks.

 

[breezy1077]

Um, when was the last time Mr Man checked in? I'm starting to get worried.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

Yeah, but that was not the Obamessiah. He is the One.

Which brings me to a T shirt my mother had in the early 70s that said "Jesus is Coming...and boy is he ***ed." (No offense intended, I hope nobody takes any... )

None taken. We have a bumper sticker (not on the car) that says, "Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an a*****e".
My SIL has a shirt that says "Jesus loves you. I'm trying".

 

[OceanAnnie]

Um, when was the last time Mr Man checked in? I'm starting to get worried.

I hope he is okay too.

Mr. Man, Paging Mr. Man!!

 

[transparant]

I hope he is okay too.

Mr. Man, Paging Mr. Man!!

I was just thinking about him this morning too! Mr. Man - hope you are okay!!!