The Bachelor 17 Sean Lowe NO SPOILERS

[Imzadi]

Someone here called it last week that Des would pull a prank. Who are you? (Too lazy to scroll back.) Take a bow!

 

[Imzadi]

Gee Sean, welcome to real life. Sometimes family members do NOT get along with the spouse.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

Gee Sean, welcome to real life. Sometimes family members do NOT get along with the spouse.

True, but Des' brother was being a d*ck. He only wanted to rile Sean up because he thinks he isn't the one for his sister. I don't think he gave Sean a chance and Sean would be a fool to not consider that a factor should he marry Des.

 

[Dee77]

Gee Sean, welcome to real life. Sometimes family members do NOT get along with the spouse.

That is true but seriously it is not like her father had doubts, I mean who is this joker of a brother that thinks it is his place to call out Sean for what he believes and Des could have done something to stop it. She has to know what her brother is like and that he is a know it all hothead. I was suprised that all 3 of them sat there and the brother is the one who spoke privately to Sean.

 

[Imzadi]

What I am saying is, that if a person really loves someone, they may have to accept that the "package deal" they come with may be less than perfect. And if you really love them, (depending on how bad the family situation is,) you deal with it. At least Sean has his eyes open going in.

 

[Dee77]

What I am saying is, that if a person really loves someone, they may have to accept that the "package deal" they come with may be less than perfect. And if you really love them, (depending on how bad the situation is,) you deal with it. At least Sean has his eyes open going in.

Of course the family comes as part of the package but the guy called him out on his integrity and character as if it was a legitimate judgement to make after knowing him for an hour.

 

[fairestoneofall]

Of course the family comes as part of the package but the guy called him out on his integrity and character as if it was a legitimate judgement to make after knowing him for an hour.

and she can now thank her brother for all of it. i honestly thought they were a really great fit.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

Was anyone else cringing while Des went on and on about how Sean was making a big mistake? Geez girl, he didn't choose you. Get in the limo and at least leave with a bit of dignity. Instead Des kept pleading with him not to send her home. I felt sorry for her.

 

[Dee77]

Was anyone else cringing while Des went on and on about how Sean was making a big mistake? Geez girl, he didn't choose you. Get in the limo and at least leave with a bit of dignity. Instead Des kept pleading with him not to send her home. I felt sorry for her.

Yep and when she said in the limo that she doesn't know what she will do with her life now???

 

[Imzadi]

and she can now thank her brother for all of it. i honestly thought they were a really great fit.

How solid could it have been between them if the BROTHER could derail it all?

Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with this show. When someone has a pick between 4 girls, he's going to go with the one who has the illusion of the "perfect family" to go with the package deal. Secondly, if Des knew her brother normally reacts like that, then she probably would normally have waited (like 2 years ) before introducing the BF to the brother or family, if they are going to be a problem.

There are so many posts/threads here on the DIS of people who have bad family relationships with their spouses' families. Most of them are closer to real life. You deal with them, avoid them - except at holidays, then vacation at WDW without them.

Was anyone else cringing while Des went on and on about how Sean was making a big mistake? Geez girl, he didn't choose you. Get in the limo and at least leave with a bit of dignity. Instead Des kept pleading with him not to send her home. I felt sorry for her.

I kept thinking, "Des, you DO know it's not going to work in the end with any of them either?" Only 3 couples out of the 20+ shows have lasted.

Yep and when she said in the limo that she doesn't know what she will do with her life now???

She turned out to be just as desperate as Ashlee.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

That was painful to watch. I really feel like none of them are right for him. I've read the spoiler and I won't ruin it, but there are issues with all 3 of the remaining girls. AshLee is clingy, Catherine doesn't seem quite ready to be engaged, and Lindsey seems immature. I can't see it lasting with anyone.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

How solid could it have been between them if the BROTHER could derail it all?

Ha ha! Good point.

Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with this show. When someone has a pick between 4 girls, he's going to go with the one who has the illusion of the "perfect family" to go with the package deal. Secondly, if Des knew her brother normally reacts like that, then she probably would normally have waited (like 2 years ) before introducing the BF to the brother or family, if they are going to be a problem.

I think it's like a process of elimination. Choose the ones whose family you can tolerate and seem to have the same ideals you do. Clearly Sean's waffling between Catherine and Des proved that. Des' hometown (before the parents and brother) went well! Catherine's hometown (before the sisters attack) went well! But the brother made Sean imagine future family gatherings and all the tension that it would bring. With Catherine, he was concerned about her readiness to settle down but loved her family.

There are so many posts/threads here on the DIS of people who have bad family relationships this their spouses families. Most of them are closer to real life. You deal with them, avoid them - except at holidays, then vacation at WDW without them.

Isn't that the truth!

I kept thinking, "Des, you DO know it's not going to work in the end with any of them either?" Only 3 couples out of the 20+ shows have lasted.

I almost wished she'd have said something like call me when your current relationship goes into the crapper.

She turned out to be just as desperate as Ashlee.

She did! But I've always thought both she and Ashlee were very insecure.

 

[msdaisy]

Des shared a few episodes back that her parents were very different. She mentioned them living in tents, and it just seemed that she was describing her parents as being hippies. Neither parent seemed head strong, and neither does Des. I wonder if the brother has in a warped way taken on the role of being the protector in the family. He was very rude about it all. But, maybe he knows that none of this usually works out in the end so he just sabotaged the whole thing to save her from even more heartache in the end????

 

[Buckalew11]

He should have kept my Kelly from episode 1.

 

[Imzadi]

Ha ha! Good point.

I think it's like a process of elimination. Choose the ones whose family you can tolerate and seem to have the same ideals you do. Clearly Sean's waffling between Catherine and Des proved that. Des' hometown (before the parents and brother) went well! Catherine's hometown (before the sisters attack) went well! But the brother made Sean imagine future family gatherings and all the tension that it would bring. With Catherine, he was concerned about her readiness to settle down but loved her family.

Exactly! Had Des & Sean had longer time together to solidify things, he probably would have, after the meeting the brother & letting how much of an @** he's probably always going to be in their life settled in, he would have shrugged it off in the long run. Sean isn't one to back down during a fight or confrontation. He would have been the kind to deal with the brother, up front, as things came along. Look how he reacted during the prank. He would have slugged the actor, defending Des. But, bad timing, and in combination AFTER that prank, he wasn't sure what was going on anymore. He probably felt the rug was being pulled beneath him and was wondering if it all was another prank at first. The brother kept SMILING through it all.

With 3 other families to choose from, (although Catherine's was quite weird too, ) he went with the better "package deal" than the fact he gets along the best with Des.


Remember how Brad's family derailed his relationship with Chantal, even though he clearly got along better with her than with Emily? These guys need more time to firm up their relationships before being in the family situations.

Des shared a few episodes back that her parents were very different. She mentioned them living in tents, and it just seemed that she was describing her parents as being hippies. Neither parent seemed head strong, and neither does Des. I wonder if the brother has in a warped way taken on the role of being the protector in the family. He was very rude about it all. But, maybe he knows that none of this usually works out in the end so he just sabotaged the whole thing to save her from even more heartache in the end????

I wondered that too. It seems like the brother is the Alpha in the family.

 

[MAGICFOR2]

I was working on taxes and lost track of time - so I missed all but the Des's brother and the rose ceremony - I think I need to watch online tomorrow so that tomorrow's episode makes sense. I can understand why the brother was so protective. DH said the same thing last week when he saw the previews - he's trying really hard not to watch

I kept waiting for Sean to say, "if it doesn't work out, I will call you..." such a strange good-bye. I think if he feels so strongly for 4 women at the same time, he isn't ready to marry any of them.

Just watched the local news - Arie from Emily's season lives here - he said he was really in love with Emily, dated Courtney from Ben's season, but the flame went out quickly, and they are reporting that he is dating Selma from this season with Sean!

 

[violetrose]

I guess I'm the only one who still loves Sean. He has not made any significant mistakes yet, at least not as far as The Bachelor goes. I think he does have a very set idea of what he is looking for and it should be his perorgative to find the best match.

I sort of dread he is going to pick Lindsay when I want him to pick Catherine. So she isn't ready yet. I think that is probably a good thing? How many of these couples get engaged and then go live in the real world and find out it isn't working? Best they decide to make a go of it in the real world and see if it works. I can see Lindsay accepting a proposal and I don't think she has any real depth. I think Sean does, he seems like an introspective guy to me.

I really worry about Ashley. I think she loves him a lot more than he does her and it's not going to be pretty when she gets let go.

I liked Des, but didn't think she was exactly right for Sean. My favorites were Leslie and Catherine almost from the beginning so I'm pulling for Catherine.

 

[shortbun]

Catherine should have left too, on her own. Seriously girl, he's not sure which one of you to 'keep?' Run!!!

 

[shortbun]

True, but Des' brother was being a d*ck. He only wanted to rile Sean up because he thinks he isn't the one for his sister. I don't think he gave Sean a chance and Sean would be a fool to not consider that a factor should he marry Des.

It worked, Sean ran. He's not worth losing sleep over. Macho, sexist, creepy always walking around half naked, not the best values. He didn't have any trouble sending women home early in the beginning of the show. He needs to call it off. He doesn't have a relationship with any of the girls strong enough for a proposal. Three of them are immature and the 4th is so needy. A good marriage is about two people strong enough to stand alone but wanting to be together.

 

[java]

That brother was a real piece of work, and the passive aggressive way the family dealt with it by changing the subject and let's talk about the weather would have me running too.

I feel bad for Des and wish she would have stood up to her *** of a brother. Or that the parents would have been more involved in some way. Why let the brother run the show. I think the disrespect also pissed his off.

I said to dd that I thought this season would would turn into Sister Wives with him marrying all 4 of them,