That 12 year difference really bothers me. Am I obsessing??

[WALTSAGOD]

I'll bet that you'd get a different answer from many DVC's in 2042 on if the extra years matter.

Imagine be able pass on to your kids 10+ years of free "paid" vacations rather than paying 2042+ rates when they go!!!

 

[Disney Kim]

I will be 60 in 2042, and so for me the extra years is a big draw! I even took into account the three years between SSR AND AKL, (now that is obsessive )

I do love love love the boardwalk but I don't think I will add on there unless they extend the contract.

 

[crisi]

I'll bet that you'd get a different answer from many DVC's in 2042 on if the extra years matter.

Imagine be able pass on to your kids 10+ years of free "paid" vacations rather than paying 2042+ rates when they go!!!

I'd imagine it will be a significantly different population of DVCers. Not everyone owning today will hold on (either their ownership or their life) until 2042. I'll probably still be alive, but if I am I don't know that I'll want to be at Disney. Chances are fairly good we will have sold our contract 20 years before I get to that age.

Imagine being able to pass 2042 DUES onto your children. I don't intend on leaving my kids with anything that comes with a committment, nor anything that can't be easily split without a fight (one 150 point contract is not something that can be split).

 

[WALTSAGOD]

I'd imagine it will be a significantly different population of DVCers. Not everyone owning today will hold on (either their ownership or their life) until 2042. I'll probably still be alive, but if I am I don't know that I'll want to be at Disney. Chances are fairly good we will have sold our contract 20 years before I get to that age.

Imagine being able to pass 2042 DUES onto your children. I don't intend on leaving my kids with anything that comes with a committment, nor anything that can't be easily split without a fight (one 150 point contract is not something that can be split).

I would have to imagine that ANYONE would love to be given a paid off contract with the dues being their committment. Let me know where I have to stand to get into that line.



Why would the dues vs. paid off contract be any less attractive in 2042 than it would be in 2008. Due will be a lot higher, but what will a room cost?!@

Give me dues and a paid off contract any day!

 

[crisi]

I would have to imagine that ANYONE would love to be given a paid off contract with the dues being their committment. Let me know where I have to stand to get into that line.



Why would the dues vs. paid off contract be any less attractive in 2042 than it would be in 2008. Due will be a lot higher, but what will a room cost?!@

Give me dues and a paid off contract any day!

Not anyone or everyone would. Please do NOT leave me an obligation.

 

[Disney Devoted Daddy]

But MOST would LOVE the "Obligation".

 

[crisi]

But MOST would LOVE the "Obligation".

Maybe, and I bet if you ran a poll here, you'd get a lot of positive feedback. But I bet if you asked a bunch of people "would you like it if your parents left you a timeshare in their will with $1,000 a year in dues?" that the response would be different and not nearly so positive.

 

[twinklebug]

Maybe, and I bet if you ran a poll here, you'd get a lot of positive feedback. But I bet if you asked a bunch of people "would you like it if your parents left you a timeshare in their will with $1,000 a year in dues?" that the response would be different and not nearly so positive.

Although I'm one who would jump at the chance to win a DVC giveaway such as Disney held last year (or year before?) I'm agreeing with crisi here... not everyone loves Disney, and of those who do, there are some, believe it or not, who don't care for the DVC resorts. Then there are those who have their finances so carefully planned that a paid off DVC membership with annual dues might upset the balance and they'd have issue with it.

Imagine if you will, inheriting a condo ... say... in the middle of "nowhere" (per your own personality) with condo fees you'd rather place into someplace/something you'd really enjoy or need instead (such as a retirement fund?). At this point the "gift" would be nothing but a burden - and one you may not be able to afford... selling it would be your best option - and imagine all the complicated paperwork that goes with inheriting and then selling the property.

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I've decided it will be worth it for me to buy at VWL or BWV verses the newer resorts as I do want to be able to choose to stay at my favorite resorts without having to wait for the 7 month window and then possibly having to waitlist. I'm not worrying about the last years, hopefully by buying in sooner as opposed to later I'll save vacation funds I'll be able to use as I choose *IF* I survive to see the last years of my DVC ownership. If I pass away before the end years I know my children love DVC and will not have issue with paying dues... although I agree splitting up a smaller contract between them will be an issue dues-wise. I'd love to be able to have the dues paid off in advance .

 

[chris4disney]

We are on the verge of taking the plunge into DVC. I have been torn with buying at BWV/BCV vs. SSR. Right now I have no desire to stay at SSR. We love the Epcot resort area and feel that as DVC grows the concept of owning where you want to stay most will become more and more important.

I will say though that the extra 12 yrs, lower dues and lower cost per point at SSR is making me second guess buying at BWV or BCV. In 2042 DH and I will be 66 years old... will I still want to go to Disney then? Maybe... maybe not. All I know is that right now I want to go and I don't care to stay at SSR. Yes, 12 years is a long time to have additional vacations paid for (atleast the room portion). But in the meantime, if we were to buy at SSR instead, I don't want to spend the next 34 YEARS wishing my home resort were somewhere else.

 

[BroganMc]

Just because some of us can't imagine getting up there in years and enjoying our membership doesn't mean that isn't going to be exactly what happens!

That is an excellent point. I know I've said it a lot here but I'll say it again. I travel to Disney with my dad... 76 years old, semi-retired, had both bypass surgery and prostate cancer. He still bitterly complains about the winters making his arthritis hurt, but the man adores going to Disney. It makes him feel like a kid again.

He only sleeps about 5-6 hours a night (older you get the less you sleep) and walks at a 2mph pace, but he has more stamina than my 42 yr old sister and his 6 & 8 year old grandsons.

The only concession we make for his age is he uses an ECV if we're doing parks. And that's mostly so he always has a seat and doesn't get tuckered racing for a FastPass or showtime.

When I took him to London last summer, the man walked 6 miles a day around the city and did twice the amount of things you'd do on an ABD itinerary.

In comparison when we took my sister to SSR last October she got tired out just walking back from DTD. (Chewed me out for not letting her take the "shortcut" of walking in the street around Congress Park.)

So don't expect 70 automatically means "next to dead". Heck, my body has been an old person's body since I was 6. (Rheumatoid Arthritis does that to a person.) But how old you are is more in your head than your body. If you're very lucky old age won't hit you until the last few years of your life. And that could be at 102.

 

[Bichon Barb]

Interesting points being made here.

Let's say someone age 24 inherited a 160 point contract today with $800 year maintenance fees. If the 24 year old was making $30,000 a year, $800 maintenance fee is a chunk of change--especially if that person just isn't into WDW at this point in their life. They could rent those points out for $1600 if they were saavy to that.

With regard to talk of people's future vacations plans, I think one thing you guys are forgetting is that your points don't have to be used at WDW. I'm not an owner, but we've been going back and forth on ownership for a few years. Now that my kids are teens, I could definitely see us using points to rent a place in Vermont for skiing. Flights are expensive for us. We could drive to VT and have a great vacation. Or we could do a II (?) trade for a place in Europe, Caribbean, etc.

 

[WALTSAGOD]

Anyone wishing to will me or anyone in my family their paid off DVC points may contact me via PM.

 

[dvc at last !]

Anyone wishing to will me or anyone in my family their paid off DVC points may contact me via PM.

 

[PEANUT1]

Anyone wishing to will me or anyone in my family their paid off DVC points may contact me via PM.

he he...count me in too....wait. that is exactly what I have. My MIL bought our timeshare and we just pay the maintenance.

I think anyone who doesn't want to inherit a contract could simply sell it. Seems like no big deal to me.

 

[starbox]

With regard to talk of people's future vacations plans, I think one thing you guys are forgetting is that your points don't have to be used at WDW. I'm not an owner, but we've been going back and forth on ownership for a few years. Now that my kids are teens, I could definitely see us using points to rent a place in Vermont for skiing. Flights are expensive for us. We could drive to VT and have a great vacation. Or we could do a II (?) trade for a place in Europe, Caribbean, etc.

The extra years were a huge deal for us. We had our kids in our 20's and plan on traveling a lot once they're grown. DVC will more than pay for itself with the 15 or so years we stay at Disney as a family - but I love knowing that DH and I will have lots of options for travel post-retirement. I would very much miss those last 12 years of travel.

 

[chris4disney]

The extra years were a huge deal for us. We had our kids in our 20's and plan on traveling a lot once they're grown. DVC will more than pay for itself with the 15 or so years we stay at Disney as a family - but I love knowing that DH and I will have lots of options for travel post-retirement. I would very much miss those last 12 years of travel.

Okay, now you're making me second guess buying at BWV!! I just love the Boardwalk area so much over SSR area. I don't know that I want to be on the waitlist every year to try and get into BWV or BCV at the 7 month window. I'm worried that as DVC grows and becomes more and more popular that the home resort 11-month booking will become even more important than it is now. Our kids are 2 and 5 so up until now we've been able to travel at off peak times. But as they get older we'll probably have to start traveling at busier times, which again that 11-month window will be more important.

I think my other problem with relying on the waitlist to come thru every time is that I am a real control/planner freak when it comes to our vacations. I don't think I could handle waiting months and months before ever knowing for sure where we were staying at each time. But that's just me.

I think for me knowing that I shouldn't have a problem getting a standard or Boardwalk view room at my beloved BWV for the next 30 some years outweighs the extra 12 years at SSR. Perhaps in 2042 I'll think differently. And who knows, maybe DVC will offer an extension to BWV like OKW and I'll have the best of both worlds?

Would it be nice to take a peek into the year 2042 and see what has become of DVC to make a better decision today!

 

[crisi]

he he...count me in too....wait. that is exactly what I have. My MIL bought our timeshare and we just pay the maintenance.

I think anyone who doesn't want to inherit a contract could simply sell it. Seems like no big deal to me.

Sure, but why should someone buy a resort they don't intend to stay at (if you like the resort the extra years are a great deal, even if you are old enough that you likely won't get use out of it) so they can pass it on to children who are only going to sell it. The longer years, if you are going to use them, seem like an important decision criteria. The longer years so you can pass them along to someone else, that seem like a minor decision criteria to me.

 

[jade1]

Then of course there are the buyers (which I think you are seeing a lot of now) who run into financial trouble and need to dump their DVC.

Yep, and would they rather be selling 100 BCV points or 100 SSR points today?

 

[jade1]

What about resale? What if you decide in 10 years that you don't want your DVC anymore--for whatever reason. Wouldn't it be easier to sell a contract that has 39 years left on it compared to one which has 24 years left?

Hard to say, someone likely asked that same question many years ago as well, but is it currently easier to sell a resort with 46 years left (SSR) or one with 34 years left (BCV)?

 

[BroganMc]

The longer years so you can pass them along to someone else, that seem like a minor decision criteria to me.

It probably fits into that "more bang for the buck" category. The same thing that drives people to reserve studios over 1bedrooms. For a lot of folks just being on Disney property is enough of a proximity perk. Staying at one particular resort over another seems trivial.

I know when I stay at my Marriott's, it doesn't matter too much where. I may prefer the room layout of one, or the road access of another, but either work just as well for me.

At Disney, having my car at hand defeats pretty much any walking access beyond a couple places.