Texas kills fancy last meal requests on death row

I don't get why prisoners need any sort of bonus. books to read or cigarettes or
conjugal vists or TV, Why can't they just sit in jail and think about how they can change for the better. People in jail are given so many perks it's almost a reward to go.

Because they'll go insane and get out and then you really don't want to know what happens.

Seriously, books are a perk and a bonus now?

When a prison is set to be built there are bidding wars like crazy! Towns scramble to push their area for the prison, they want the jobs! I don't know where you live but the last prison built here had 5 towns fighting for the privilege.

I complain about the cost to house prisoners who have been sentenced to death! kill them, carry out their sentences. Don't keep them alive for 20 years. If we carried out all the Death sentences in a speedier manner then we would save a tremendous amount of money. Give them say 5 years tops for their appeals and be done with it.

I also complain about all the amenities they are given. Cut those costs, I have no problem spending money to keep serious offenders off the street, but treat them as offenders not at a sleep over camp.

If everyone wants prisons so badly (and I do realize some municipalities do bid for them because of the jobs and the revenue), then why aren't there enough prisons? Because we have a huge shortage of prison space.

As for the stopping appeals, yes, I get you want to rewrite the justice system in this country, from the very basic idea that it's founded on, on up. Some of us think the founding fathers weren't totally wrong, however.

What amenities cost money, exactly that you'd like to cut?

I am aware of he positive results that education has on the prison population. i also believe that the cell dog program is a good one. I have to say that in this country education should not be reserved for those who break the law though. If we, as a society, believe that education and vocational training elevate the prison population, (and I honestly do believe that) then how can we refuse to educate and train all Americans? Do we wait for someone to break the law before we determine that we need to provide adequate education in order to ensure that person is given the opportunity to succeed?

Again, how is education reserved for the imprisoned? Everyone in this country is guaranteed a h.s. education and people with low enough incomes can get subsidized post-secondary education for free as well.
 
Nice way to stereotype people you have a parent in jail, then the only place you are going to is jail. Secondly education is a good thing as it helps reduce recidivism (isnt that what is wanted) it also helps them get jobs after prison

Academic Education

Academic education usually is provided in the form of GED or literacy classes [1]. These free classes assist the prisoner in learning to read, write, and perform basic mathematical computations. This is especially important in a correctional setting because, compared to the general population, prisoners are an under-educated group – who maintain less than 5th grade proficiency in reading and writing [2] – coming from a culture of poverty, with few skills for handling everyday tasks, and little or no experience in a trade or career [3]. Hence, many require significant remedial help before they can attend more advanced educational classes [4]. The goal of these classes is to prepare the prisoner to take the official GED tests – the official high school diploma equivalent – and to hopefully further their education with more advanced studies. Other free basic forms of academic education, which are on the level of the GED courses or below, include English-as-a-Second Language classes and special education classes. Depending on the facility, one, none, or both will be offered.

After the student earns a GED, they are then usually offered the opportunity to further their education through in-prison programs. This continued education is coined Adult Continuing Education in the federal prison system and is also free to participants. These are courses which are led by inmate-instructors and encompass any number of topics. For example, at FCI-Petersburg, the Education Department offers Writing and Publishing, Personal Finance, Spanish, Basic Math, Legal Basics, and more.

Past this basic level of academic education is college education. While the most effective way to offer advanced college-level programs in prisons is to partner with local colleges and universities who are willing to send in teachers [5], this rarely happens because of funding and staffing concerns. Hence, the prisoners' best bet, in terms of an advanced academic education, is to enroll in college correspondence courses. These are courses from legitimate colleges which are delivered in a correspondence format. These courses are not free to the prisoner. The prisoner must find a way to pay for the courses up-front (e.g. through their own means or through family members or other organizations). College correspondence courses usually cost several hundred dollars apiece.
[edit] Vocational Training

Vocational training, on the other hand, offers more opportunities in the prison setting. Much of what is offered will depend upon the local prison's programming. For example, at FCI-Petersburg, inmates have the option to learn Computer Aided Design, Carpentry, and a number of other vocations via "live work" employments (e.g. plumbing, electricity, landscaping). All of these are free to the prisoner-participants.

Outside of the prison setting, the prisoner can usually enroll in vocational correspondence education. These include legal studies, mediation, religious studies, and much more. All costs and fees are the responsibility of the individual prisoner and usually run from several hundred dollars per course to several thousand per program of study. Vocational training via correspondence is almost exclusively less expensive than correspondence academic education.
[edit] Numbers and Costs

The United States has the largest prison population – by far – of any country in the world. With an incarcerated population of 2.3 million and growing steadily every year, our nation, which represents 5% of the world's population, houses 25% of the incarcerated population of the entire world [6]. This equals 1 in every 100 American adults in prison and 1 in every 31 American adults in prison or on probation or parole [7].

According to the Pew report, "Between 1973 and 2009, the nation's prison population grew by 705 percent..." [8]. In the last two decades alone, "State spending on corrections quadrupled..." [9]. This alarming growth translates into spending $30.1 billion each year to build more prison facilities to house the bulging prison populace [10]. Another study notes that over the past two decades, state and federal spending on corrections increased 305% to a total of about $52 billion each year [11]. While these numbers fluctuate slightly based upon their methodology and time-frame, any of them should be considered a complete failure in American corrections.

Furthermore, it costs $2,000 to $3,782 to provide a college education to an incarcerated student, compared to $32,000 to $40,000 per year to incarcerate the same individual. This shows that it costs ten times less to prevent crime through education than to imprison offenders [12][13]. While these numbers are astronomical, another study found "One million dollars spent on correctional education prevents about 600 crimes, while that same money invested in incarceration prevents 350 crimes. Correctional education is almost twice as cost-effective as a crime control policy" [14]. If only the American public would open their minds, they would see that educating prisoners is in their fiscal best interest.
[edit] Reductions in Recidivism


As of March 2011, the Pew Center on the States reported that the three-year recidivism rate for released prisoners, on average, is 43.3% [15]. In another highly-regarded study by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the recidivism rate was reported to be 51.8% per three-year period following release [16]. This means that 43.3%-51.8% of prisoners, on a national scale, will be rearrested and re-incarcerated within three years of release. This is in direct contrast with those who received an education while behind bars [17][18][19][20][21][22].

Prisoners that attain an AA degree recidivate at a rate of 13.7%, while those with a Bachelor's degree recidivate at a rate of 5.6%, and those with a Master's degree recidivate at a rate of 0% [23]! With such monumental reductions in recidivism – through comparatively inexpensive means – college-level education becomes the common sense answer to the cost of corrections and our nation's astronomical recidivism rate.
[edit] Personal Development

Perhaps the strongest argument for educating prisoners is in the change that may occur in prisoners who receive an education. To those afforded the opportunity to further their education, it "may be the first glimmer of hope that [they] can escape the cycles of poverty and violence that have dominated their lives" [24]. Pursuing an education can also undo some of the damage accrued during their stay in prison; it can awaken senses numbed and release creativity that is both therapeutic and rehabilitative [25].

With good skills and education – solid vocational training at the very least or, even better, an advanced degree – released -prisoners can overcome a prison record. In fact – and this is the good news – 75% of college-educated ex-prisoners are able to surmount the stigma of their criminal record to find stable employment [26]. This is a big step in the direction of getting out of prison and staying out. It is also a step towards making amends to society through law-abiding citizenship, productive work, and paying taxes.
[edit
] Conclusion

Prison education is a controversial topic. On one side of the issue are the feelings of the American public, feelings which question why a prisoner should receive an education while they have to pay for their kids' education and their own. On the other side is hard scientific evidence. It is a proven fact that education reduces recidivism. This has been thoroughly cited throughout this paper. In the end, the American people will have to make a decision: continue to pay for the increasing number of prisoners through more taxes and reduced funding for other social institutions or educate the nation's prisoners to reduce recidivism rates.
What about programs like the cell dog program? they not only help the prisoners but also stop dogs being put down.

It's happening all over the USA: prison inmates receive training to, in turn, train dogs from animal shelters. The prisoners learn a joy, a compassion and a responsibility that can come only from raising and training a dog, as well as skills that can help them find a job. The dog becomes adoptable. Some lucky family gets to adopt a well-trained dog that, just a few weeks before, would have been put to death merely for being unwanted. OR, the dog is trained especially for security jobs (drug sniffing, bomb sniffing at airports, etc.).

Yeah, ya know, I'm not thinking that I'd really care that the thug who murdered my child was "learning a joy". These people suck the life and joy out of other people and we are supposed to worry about them being happy and productive?

Forget about it. I'm not talking your basic check forger, your child support dodger, your basic white collar crime. I'm talking murders, rapists, child molesters. Those people are never going to be a viable part of society. We don't need them breeding their brand of psychosis in the prison cells and we don't need to "help them feel good". They should live their lives sleeping on the floor, eating cold food and being worked for to get any special privileges like a pillow, a book, any schooling. It's time to stop giving them creature comforts for being beasts.
 
Again, how is education reserved for the imprisoned? Everyone in this country is guaranteed a h.s. education and people with low enough incomes can get subsidized post-secondary education for free as well.


Yes, everyone is guaranteed a HS education. Yes, low income folks get financial assistance for their secondary education. Until everyone is offered the opportunity to attend college for free then we should nto be giving that benefit to those who have broken the law. My opinion may not be yours but it is as valid.

I have never suggested that we refrain from providing books, decent food, medical care or exercise. I am simply suggesting that since it is so expensive to ensure there is adequate prison space to house the ballooning criminal population we rethink how some of those funds are allocated. There are two prisons in my area and I remember teh hullabaloo there was when the second was built. No bidding war here!
 
Yeah, ya know, I'm not thinking that I'd really care that the thug who murdered my child was "learning a joy". These people suck the life and joy out of other people and we are supposed to worry about them being happy and productive?

Forget about it. I'm not talking your basic check forger, your child support dodger, your basic white collar crime. I'm talking murders, rapists, child molesters. Those people are never going to be a viable part of society. We don't need them breeding their brand of psychosis in the prison cells and we don't need to "help them feel good". They should live their lives sleeping on the floor, eating cold food and being worked for to get any special privileges like a pillow, a book, any schooling. It's time to stop giving them creature comforts for being beasts.


:thumbsup2 I'm with you!

And if you are in for life then you do not need to be taking any college classes, period. I'll give them a bed, but they should be working every day of their lives.
 













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