Terrifying Experince at Epcot

Bella O

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We're just back from what was an amazing New Year's trip - except for our horrifying experince at Epcot on NYE. We were prepared for rudeness. We were prepared for incredible crowds. We were not prepared for Disney's inexplicable lack of crowd control on what is labeled by Disney's own employees "the busiest day of the year". We had entered through the international gateway after the earlier illuminations finished. We needed to get over to Norway for the princess dinner at 8:40pm. Our big mistake - going the "shorter" way on the map - through Canada, future world direction. When we had walked through England and Canada ropes had been set up with CM's on hand - having all folks going the same direction to the right of the walkway - worked great. While crowds were thick, walkways were, well, walkable, and manageable.

As we left Canada & got closer to FW, crowds slowly got thicker then thicker, then before we realized what happened we were stuck in the largest human gridlock situation I have ever been in. I was holding my 5 yr dd's hand, trying to squeeze forward with the crowd. I got separated from my dh, and two other (older) dds. We were "stuck" not moving at all except perhaps a few inches. The crowd was getting more and more panicked - including me, the longer we were not moving - at least 10 minutes. At no time did I see any CM's to aid in this logjam.

Suddenly a woman from behind me starts pushing on me. I turned and said "please stop pushing, we'll all going the same direction". She then, proceeded to push on us hard enough that my dd fell forward - she didn't hit the ground, as we were crushed together, but she was pushed hard enough that she fell forward onto the man's legs in front of us. I yelled at the woman that I have a little girl here, and you almost knocked her over. She kept pointing to her 10yr old-ish dd and said "Mother" "mother" while pushing me out of the way. I went ballistic, "what am I, if not a mother? My little girls was PUSHED over by you" She just shoved her way onto the man in front of me, till he gave her a few inches and she continued to push ahead, saying something to me in what sounded like a Russian or Slavic dialect. I switched to Spanish, which I can also speak, but of course, she couldn't understand me, or care to understand me. Anyway, now I was close to tears in this sea of humans, holding my dd tightly, and praying we'd make it out alive (seriously, I was that scared).
After five more minutes I finally saw 2 CM's enter the fray. Shortly after this, I saw a quarterback type kid pushing himself and his friends through - I literally held onto his friend and we were finally pushed through.

Meanwhile, my dh was back further, and because he had a stroller, became separated from my other two dds. My one dd, who has claustrophobia, started having a panic attack, and began hyerventalating. My dh found the girls, struggled to keep the 3 of them together - he tried to go back, or to the sides but was unable to move at all. People in front of him began turning around, saying the CM's say to go back. Of course, the people behind, refused to budge. My dh could now see if he stood on tiptoes, that there was now an empty space being created by the cm's (don't know if this was a too late crowd control measure, or if someone got hurt). He was finally able to push a path to the side and he and my dds stayed there, till he was able to get my dd to breathe normally again. During all this time, he did not see one single CM. After another 10 minutes or so, he and dds walked the long way all around the ws to meet me and dd who were now safely in Norway (though 20 minutes late for adr)

Crowds cannot be helped at Epcot on NYE. This situation however was completely avoidable, and could have completely been adverted with proper man power and crowd control. It is completely unacceptable, and easily could have ended in tragedy (it may have for someone unbeknowst to me). This is a comon bottleneck - all the more reason for crowd precautions to be put in place as they were elsewhere in WS that night. This is the most anti-disney thing I have ever experienced at DW, or for that matter anywhere (the Great Wall of China and NYE in Times Square NYC! pale in comparison!) I did complain (very emotionally) that evening to the manager of Akershus, as he was the only manager type person I could find that night - he was very nice, but really, what could he do?

I intend to write a formal letter of complaint, once I find the name of the person who heads operations at Epcot. I just don't want this situation to repeat itself and end in major tragedy. We were shaken all through the princess dinner (thankfully my youngest dd was so enthralled w/the princesses that she was ok). We decided not to let this horrific event spoil our evening. We did stay till midnight, illuminations was great, and we left w/no issues right afterwards thru the I.G. The only positive thing to come from this was that the crowds seemed easy after this - even Main Street USA right after Wishes on a Saturday night! If anyone knows a name I can write to, pleas pm me - thanks.
 
Yikes! I'm sorry that happend to you. I agree about an official complaint, but I can't help you with a name. I've seen an email address posted a few times and I'm sure someone will have it for you. :)
 
How scary for you!! I am glad you and your DD's came out of it all right.
 

Very sorry that you had to experience that. Yes, someone who knows will post the address and please write a letter ASAP and include all the details you included here. Clearly that have an issue that needs to be fixed and I'm sure that they will try to prevent it from happening again.

And perhaps we should ask that this be posted as a sticky so that whenever folks ask about going to WDW on NYE, they can read this first! :)
 
That was indeed a horrifying experience, and I feel for you. I can only imgine how enormous the crowds were on NYE! My family visited Epcot (two years ago) during the week after New Years, and even then the crowds were still huge. While exiting the park after Illuminations, DD and I got separated from DH and DS (too many people pushing their way in between us). I was extremely anxious the whole time, hoping that my son was still with my husband. We never could find each other, and ended up meeting back at our resort bus stop. But that sure was a loooong wait! Because of that I will never, ever go during the holidays again. Thanks for posting about this; glad everything worked out for you in the end.
 
That must have been terrifying! I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I don't have a name, but I have heard you should send complaints/compliments to this address:
Walt Disney World Guest Communications
PO Box 10040
Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830-0040
 
Your experience confirms why I refuse to go to WDW on NYE. My DH would dearly love to do it, but I want no part of a crowd like that. I can only imagine how frightening it must have been with your entire family in tow.
 
I've never had that kind of issues with crowds at WDW, even on NYE! Granted, it's been at least 6 years since I was there at that time.

The only time I have experienced anything like that was in Paris at the Eiffel Tower. There was a crowd to get on the elevator to go down and I was being shoved into the elevator by the mob. I literallys stopped moving my feet and got picked up off the ground and moved into the elevator by the force of the crowd!
 
That must have been terrifying! I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I don't have a name, but I have heard you should send complaints/compliments to this address:
Walt Disney World Guest Communications
PO Box 10040
Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830-0040

As this poster wrote. This is the address fro all communication to Walt Disney World. It will be forwarded to the appropriate people.
 
I am so sorry that happened to your family and really your little girl. I am a very protective mother; I would wrestle a starving mountain lion to protect my kid. I understand your passion and I am glad that she was not hurt. :hug:

I do think you should write Disney a letter. You can email Guest Communications and share the same story with them that you shared with us. I think it would open their eyes to see that an accident can happen as well as some unnecessary lawsuit should somebody die or become hurt from the stampede.

I would like to make a suggestion however....in order to get Disney to be responsive and read your letter thoroughly, you might want to format it. I am not trying to be rude, but your post was really hard to read without being broken up into some kind of format.
 
We were at Epcot during New Years, and elected to leave the park early just because of the crowd. We were staying at the BC, so we just stood on the main sidewalk, enjoyed the fireworks and went to bed. Looks like we chose wisely.:scared1:
 
My husband and I were at Disney World from 11/30 through 12/7, and attended the MVMCP on Tuesday 12/2. We watched the first parade from Frontierland, and it was extremely crowded.

At the end of the parade, everyone just swarmed into the street behind it. We were trying to make our way towards the Haunted Mansion and Fantasyland. It became so congested that it did become gridlocked. :eek: You literally coudn't move, and everyone was right on top of each other. I become very anxious in situations like that, because you really can't move and you're dependent upon everyone else not to push, etc.

Everyone was actually quite polite, however, and after about 5-10 minutes or so things started slowly moving. I would have been extremely panicked, though, if I had any samll children with me.

I do think Disney needs to try to manage traffic to prevent situations like this, though, because it can be dangerous.
 
To the op, I wanted to have a panic attack just reading your post!:scared1: How horrible for you! I can't even imagine how you must have felt.

Thank you for sharing that story. Now I know to NEVER visit WDW during the holidays. I hope your family has a more pleasant experience on future vacations.
 
We had this same thing happen to us at AK during a Spring Break trip a few years ago. I can't remember the exact spot, but it was a bottle-neck area, and people were trying to go both directions. Traffic came to a stand still, but within just a couple of minutes there were quite a few CM's there to handle the situation. (I think we were about 15 minutes at a standstill) They actually had to get quite rude to some people to get them to listen, turned people around from the direction they were going just to get the area cleared. I was quite impressed by the way they handled things. Doesn't sound like they did a very good job for you though.
 

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